Your view is very biased and you did mention that in the first post but I am just going to point out a few flaws in your list. The games you say?
1. No company just out right says no to shovelware if it sells. I think the wii has the right amount of sholverlware, im sure alot of ignorant users will stop reading around here and start bashing but hear me out. Go look at the NES/SNES/GENESIS consoles as an example: there are so many glitchy,buggy, shitty games that were released, do we remember them? No, you only remember the games you enjoyed. If nintendo had released the wii with specs similar to the xbox360/ps3 then you would get games that would be multiplatform and the same. the main problem with the wii is the specs aren't up to par with the competition. That is not to say the wii didn't have great games, it has some of the best games i've played and there are mature games on the wii go play the godfather, scarface, madworld all of them "mature" titles.
I didn't say anything about Mature titles. You did. I know no company says no to shovelware, but with the Wii, it just got ridiculous. I know there are Shovelware titles on Xbox and PS3 and DS, and PSP and every thing else, but the Wii took it to a whole new level. And yes, many of us remember SNES and NES for the good games. But when there's so much shovelware for the Wii, and their first party games aren't as memorable as SNES and NES games, it's hard to forget that there was a lot of shovelware.
2. Console name, when has a consumer truly cared what a product calls itself? It would only matter if its offensive... i mean what the hell does ipod mean? xbox? An for the ds to 3ds naming, what about gameboy and gameboy color or gameboy advance? How do you explain to someone what the difference between someone from a xbox to an xbox360 if they have not experienced it? The naming is only going to be confusing for those who don't keep up with their handhelds give it a few months probably near xmas when every kid wants one to play mario kart 7 that the whole world will know the difference.
I don't mean generations. I mean the horrible choice of names. Wii. That doesn't sound like a gaming machine at all. Before the Wii was released, it was called the revolution. We all thought it was dope. Then we found out it was Wii, and the whole internet goes "WTF?!". Wii just doesn't sound like a gaming machine at all, and WiiU only makes it worse.
3. This brings me to the next point advertisement, what better advertisement than the internet. Before you would turn on the tv and then see a commercial for super mario world and then go out and buy it, now thanks to the internet you can find out months b4 the game is even out for you to be ready to purchase it, the biggest advertiser is now the internet. Word of mouth is still a very strong selling point especially for something like the 3ds, only someone who has experienced the 3D of the 3DS can explain it better than a 2D commerical on the tv.
A lot of people don't like using the internet before a game releases as in this day and age, it's damn near impossible to not have a game spoiled for you. Just because the internet is a great way to advertise, doesn't mean they can't put up a lot of posters, or have more than one ad air more than twice a month. Like I said, Rockstar did it with Grand Theft Auto IV with the insane sized posters, and they did ads on tv while on the internet. Microsoft did it with Halo 3 having the ads on tv, superbowl ad, posters, and that "Believe" campaign. And look what happened, Microsoft sold a bunch of Xbox's along with the game, the game has racked in over $300 million in it's first week!
4. The last story and the whole rainfall operation.... they are rpgs and you know what happens in the west with rpgs? they dont sell well, its a small market. I agree though, NoA should have at least told everybody the truth in an open letter why they wouldn't release the games.
So just because other RPG's haven't sold well, it means every one of them won't? Final Fantasy still sells over here, Bioware products still sell. There was no reason for them to not bring it over. It would have sold, a lot of people were excited. They just didn't want to. And until they say otherwise, there's no other reason.
5. For controls, go play goldeneye for the wii, pointing to the screen will always work better than any analog stick or dpad in the world, you cry gimmick, go look at old arcade games, they started out with a 4 way joystick and 2 buttons, now well besides almost dead you can find those cabinets with lightguns to play a shooter, or an 8 way joystick with 8 buttons or a yolk for a flight sim, Different ways to control a game has always been a pinnacle to progress, what are you going to do as time goes on? more buttons? I mean eventually won't we want games with more features and the limitations of buttons severely limits that, motion controls let you get way more sucked in into a game than any regular joystick controller granted that of course the game was built for motion controls and not tacked on which has been a great issue for the wii a bunch of half baked motion control tacked on games.I say with time eventually more games will be better adapted to motion controls.
This is opinion and dependent on the player. A lot of people say FPS is best played with Mouse and Keyboard. I play better with Xbox controller. You can't prove it as being fact and speak for everybody in the world. It's just impossible. Pointing works better for you, analogs work better for me.
6. When you say gamers 15 and up what do you mean?
Exactly what it says. Instead of advertising and making games for the younger population, advertise to those kids older brothers and sisters. You can still make pokemon sure, no doubt about it. But when there's only a handful of GOOD M rated games and most games are E and aimed towards the younger audience, you're shooting yourself in the foot. You could be making more profit by killing two birds with one stone. Nintendo is relying too heavily on the Z Generation of kids. And it's because of that that a lot of titles that appear on Sony and Microsoft's platforms don't go there, because they won't get sold. But at least with the WiiU, they're bringing in some Mature rated titles (surprised to see Batman Arkham City on there).
QUOTE(TheDarkSeed @ Aug 7 2011, 07:31 PM) Games,Online,"The young has become the new standard": This is what Nintendo aims to fix with the help of developers and the release of the WiiU.
In order for developers to start developing for it, Nintendo has to show them how it's done. Also, the online is Nintendo's problem to deal with, not other developers.
Console Name Irrelevant. As long as the console itself plays good and people enjoy playing it, the console name doesn't really matter.
It's very much relevant. It may seem small and trivial, but a name of a product does matter more than what people think. Say if I'm buying a console. I have a choice between the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, 3DS, PlayStation Vita, or Wii. Which one would I not choose because of the name?
Not the greatest example, but it still gets the point across. A name matters. I mean would I want to buy a car that has the name "Mustang" or "Viper" or, would I want to buy one that's called "shit", if I didn't know what was under the hood?
AdvertisingMoney, which is the area that Nintendo isn't doing very well in if I read the papers correct.I call bullshit on your papers. Nintendo is nothing but money, especially after the huge success of the DS Lites and Wii alone, they're swimming in it. And there is no way that, since the launch of the 3DS, they are in that big of trouble. It's just impossible.
ControllerNintendo didn't change the format of the controller because it wasn't working, they changed it to try and bring innovation/new concepts to gaming. It's ironic what you said about getting into the gameplay with a regular controller, because the Wii Remote was also supposed to get you into the game more as well. (you fetty) What the hell is a fetty? And I didn't say the controller wasn't working. I said that, a lot of people really don't want to be flailing their arms to swing a sword.
