ROM Hack HG / SS Patch discussion

[analeigh]

sorry if i sound like a noob .. im new here...

i have heard rumours that SS/HG works fine (at least - less freezes) on an Acekard2i
is that true?

i am currently play SS on my R4DS (anicent thing - i know, but it has always worked for other games for me..)
and I have already earned the 3rd batch. now my game is deemed unplayable
freezing occurs too often i can barely get through a door without getting a freeze.

i am wondering if using an Acekard2i really does solve the problem
i am contemplating in buying a new card if that's the case - i really want to get through the game with minimum freezing - at least a card that will allow me to play the game... i am completely stuck right now.

any comments would be awesome. thanks guys x

 

[Tom133t]

I think it has something to do with the DS's BIOS. ABIOSSO. SDK = Software development kit. And that number is probably a version number for whatever Lib(library)VCT is.

Thanks for reposting what I said. =[

the Abiosso SDK was figured out yesterday its the people who coded the wifi modes

So it's not the problem?

No, it's just some random part of the code that you stumbled onto.

 

[Olly]

sorry if i sound like a noob .. im new here...

i have heard rumours that SS/HG works fine (at least - less freezes) on an Acekard2i
is that true?

i am currently play SS on my R4DS (anicent thing - i know, but it has always worked for other games for me..)
and I have already earned the 3rd batch. now my game is deemed unplayable
freezing occurs too often i can barely get through a door without getting a freeze.

i am wondering if using an Acekard2i really does solve the problem
i am contemplating in buying a new card if that's the case - i really want to get through the game with minimum freezing - at least a card that will allow me to play the game... i am completely stuck right now.

any comments would be awesome. thanks guys x

Almost perfectly. Freezes at random moments have been reported.
By the time that you get one shipped to you, though, a patch might come out.

 

[Tom133t]

sorry if i sound like a noob .. im new here...

i have heard rumours that SS/HG works fine (at least - less freezes) on an Acekard2i
is that true?

i am currently play SS on my R4DS (anicent thing - i know, but it has always worked for other games for me..)
and I have already earned the 3rd batch. now my game is deemed unplayable
freezing occurs too often i can barely get through a door without getting a freeze.

i am wondering if using an Acekard2i really does solve the problem
i am contemplating in buying a new card if that's the case - i really want to get through the game with minimum freezing - at least a card that will allow me to play the game... i am completely stuck right now.

any comments would be awesome. thanks guys x

I have heard that it still freezes on Acekard, but not as often. I would reccommend that you wait for a patch to come out, instead of buying a new card. By the time the card arrives in your mailbox, the patch might be out.

 

[Risendevil]

Gahh. It's probably stuck inside all the mess of gibberish.

 

[tanjiajun_34]

For ar codes, what type of value is more commonly used in pk?

 

[Olly]

i am currently play SS on my R4DS (anicent thing - i know, but it has always worked for other games for me..)
and I have already earned the 3rd batch. now my game is deemed unplayable
freezing occurs too often i can barely get through a door without getting a freeze.

Also, I've gotten past my third badge as well.
This is the pattern I follow:
event, event, save (then the game freezes and you restart)

 

[Risendevil]

Anyone knows a good NDS debugger?

 

[disarm]

I can confirm that this game works perfectly on the R4iGold clone, but with random crashes.

 

[Olly]

I can confirm that this game works perfectly on the R4iGold clone, but with random crashes.

The crashes are what we're trying to fix.
How far in are you?

 

[Arkansaw]

I'm past Ecruteak, so that's 4 badges without a freeze

 

[Hecatia]

I can confirm that this game works perfectly on the R4iGold clone, but with random crashes.

That's the same for most carts and the crashes aren't random they are every 24 "events"
event= pass through door/stairs etc.

 

[tommyt]

I can confirm that this game works perfectly on the R4iGold clone, but with random crashes.

If the game crashes it's not working perfectly.
Those crashes are caused by the AP.

 

[gpalline]

I'm past Ecruteak, so that's 4 badges without a freeze

What flash card are you using?

 

[Tom133t]

I'm past Ecruteak, so that's 4 badges without a freeze

What hardware are you using?

 

[Arkansaw]

I'm past Ecruteak, so that's 4 badges without a freeze

What flash card are you using?

plain Desmume, but on a x64

 

[cunmeo2000]

current soln for ppl who had 3rd 3 actions:

run the crack on no$gba and use ur save file to countinue playing on emulator, wait for the patch and stop trolling bc we r not paying for the game.

thnks for the dev teams btw

 

[disarm]

I can confirm that this game works perfectly on the R4iGold clone, but with random crashes.

The crashes are what we're trying to fix.
How far in are you?

Nevermind, I guess it was after 24 events, it happened right after I picked up a potion, sorry about that.

 

[Hecatia]

I'm past Ecruteak, so that's 4 badges without a freeze

What flash card are you using?

plain Desmume, but on a x64

It's Flashcards that don't work properly currently not EMU's

 

[Olly]

My attempt at making a cleaner first post:
(looks nicer, better organization, slightly different information)

Mods, if you wish, you may lock this thread. However, this is at least an attempt to bring a little bit of order into this mess.
I request that a mod sticky this thread, or make a new thread, where facts can be edited into the first post, as more news comes.
If nothing else, all of the super-duper leet hacker folks can inform us on their progress, and maybe we can have more than just hollow speculation. This thread could contain labeled links to other important threads, and/or lists of what does and does not work. This could establish a center of information for flashcard/emulator compatibility, stop the dumbass fix rumors, and coordinate efforts into a singular location.
Yes, no?

This is what we think we know.

Rarely crashing does not mean working perfectly.
"Random" crashing is typically the 24 event rule at the beginning.

Acecards work 95% of the time, but freezes have been confirmed.
Latest version of Desmume can play the game.
No$GBA has a fix which makes the game playable.
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=213642
020DD9E4 E1A00000 AR code for NO$GBA

What does not work:
-Unpacking the rom, deleting guru2.narc, and repacking
-Trying to patch a different variable into the event counter (at least, I couldn't make it work)
-Using the (J) patch
-Copying English text into the Japanese ROM (games are different)
-Patching with Arm7 from: Sim City(J), Bowser's inside story(U), and Yugio 2010 World Champion(U), N+
-Removing the overlay 128 file
-Making a dummy overlay 128 file
-Copying the Japanese patched Arm 7 or Arm 9 to it
-Trying to move US files to JP one, to use that JP fix
-Data folder from US was moved to the patched JP rom
-Tried to patch ARM7 with JP HG/SS one, Platinum one, D/P one
-Ressetting event counter
-Tried to patch ARM9 with JP HG/SS one, Platinum one, D/P one
-Replacing all the 00 00 00 46 in the rom by 00 00 00 00
-A lot of AR codes
-Unchecking DMA and reset
-Inserting patched JP overlays (increased number of events before freeze, but still failed)
-Deleting overlays
-Gamereviews fix (all of them)
-Bad dump theory
-Chinese patch, this was the first HGSS japanese patch
-Patch.exe (by Rudolph)
-ARM7 fix (any of them)
-ARM9 fix (any of them)
-Overlay fix (any of them)
-Deleting guru2.narc (guru2 contains sprite images)

Events Info:
Freezes happen based on events. The more gym badges you have, the less time it takes to freeze.
Badges/Events - 
0: 24 events
1: 21 events
2: 15 events
3: 3 events
4+: Rumored to be unplayable. (Save will not load)
7: Rumored to make allow more events.

These are not based on which badges you have, but how many.
For example, 1, 2, and 4 would provide the same event result as 1, 2, and 3.

Events are:
Saving, Entering new area, plot events, using cut, using bag items, battles, wild peokemon, using pokegear

- This matches with the equation y = -(1/2)*x^3 - (5/2)*x + 24 and with y = 27 - 3*(2^x) and certainly with some other ones.
- With this "events" needed we can think there is a countdown, each event add -1 to a var who doesn't support value below 1, that can explain the countdown crashes and the fact that the game won't start if the value is negative. If it's right, a AR code who lock this var must work..

What we know about the anti-piracy:
-Different from Japanese AP
-Different than other games.
-Not solely GFX based.
-It's pissing us all off

Devices: (Edited from Romulation List)
Working:
- Acekard2i w/ AKAIO Firmware
- DeSmuME 0.9.5
- NO$GBA + NO$zoomer+Fix

Vaguely working (still have freezing issue):
- CycloDS w/ Firmware 1.58B1
- R4i SDHC (RTS) w/ Firmware 2.6f
- EDGE w/ Firmware 1.8
- M3/G6 DS Real w/ Firmware 4.7h ot newest Sakura
- Supercard DSOne Evolution OS
- DeSmuME 0.9.5 x64
- Supercard Lite (Slot 2 card)
- M3 Pro/Lite (Slot 2 card)

Confirmed Not Working on the Following Cards/Emulators (Some might still work):
- M3DS Real [Unreported Firmware]ÂÂ(Cannot save. Does get past name screens and allows you to play the game.)
- DSTT w/ Firmware 1.17a07 (Reported Freezing)
- DS One w/ EOS SP1 (Reported Freezing)
- R4 (Reported Freezing)
- All reported R4DS cards and clones (Reported Freezing), although, there have been some reports that the latest 1.31 firmware works.
- DeSmuME 0.9.5 x86 (Reported black screens after name selection)

From Various Sources. xD