Homebrew Hardmod tool?

[The Real Jdbye]

Is it possible for someone to manufacture some boards, let's say 10k, it would cost around 3k. What these boards would be used for, would be to clip on to a o3ds for example. And it would become a breakout board because then you just have to solder the four points to a sd and you're ready to go. Would this be possible, and how many people would buy such a tool? Also I might be looking into if I might pay the money to manufacture these guys. If there's anyone out there who might give me some exact measurements, or a pcb board design where the holes line up perfectly, I would be greatful as it would help this project come further. This may take a few months for mass production, or a few weeks. Depending on how long it takes you people to give me the designs/measurements. I will need funding too, just saying.
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UPDATE 1
I have got a PCB designer for gerber, and I've got the manufacturer. Expect these to come soon, after we get £1000 or $1214.80 to build the designs. And after that it will require £1317.20 or $1600 to start sending out products to manufacture and then send em off to you guys. We have not yet decided upon the price of the final product, but rn we are thinking of selling it at $10 or more, but not more than $20 for each, Give me you're opinions, are you going to buy this? And what do you want it to be, just a clip on or something after screwing it into place, or just a board where you solder points under the guidance of the board and the board will link them up to a micro usb?

I would definitely be interested, especially if the SD adapter was already soldered on for $20.

 

[Gamingmeteor]

I would definitely be interested, especially if the SD adapter was already soldered on for $20.

I would do that, but the problem is there will be a big quantity, each will sell for around $15 + shipping, if you paid an extra $5 for me to solder the four points to a sd card, I could do it but not for everyone. remember 1k is a lot, 10k is even more!

 

[Plaguereign]

I would love something like this for my n3ds as it makes me nervous as hell to solder in this puppy. I WAS an experienced tech with a bunch of surface mount under my belt among normal through hole stuff and then I tried to hardmod my first 3ds. WOund up with a permanent blue screen. No nand backup at that time so it royally screwed my confidence. I know I can do it, but where did I screw up first time? Anyway, yes if there are multiple revisions; one for o3ds, o3ds xl, n3ds, and n3ds xl.

Is it possible for someone to manufacture some boards, let's say 10k, it would cost around 3k. What these boards would be used for, would be to clip on to a o3ds for example. And it would become a breakout board because then you just have to solder the four points to a sd and you're ready to go. Would this be possible, and how many people would buy such a tool? Also I might be looking into if I might pay the money to manufacture these guys. If there's anyone out there who might give me some exact measurements, or a pcb board design where the holes line up perfectly, I would be greatful as it would help this project come further. This may take a few months for mass production, or a few weeks. Depending on how long it takes you people to give me the designs/measurements. I will need funding too, just saying.
Helpful

https://gyazo.com/48844a03053a40d84b149ae9d6d47f92

UPDATE 1
I have got a PCB designer for gerber, and I've got the manufacturer. Expect these to come soon, after we get £1000 or $1214.80 to build the designs. And after that it will require £1317.20 or $1600 to start sending out products to manufacture and then send em off to you guys. We have not yet decided upon the price of the final product, but rn we are thinking of selling it at $10 or more, but not more than $20 for each, Give me you're opinions, are you going to buy this? And what do you want it to be, just a clip on or something after screwing it into place, or just a board where you solder points under the guidance of the board and the board will link them up to a micro usb?

 

[Gamingmeteor]

I would love something like this for my n3ds as it makes me nervous as hell to solder in this puppy. I WAS an experienced tech with a bunch of surface mount under my belt among normal through hole stuff and then I tried to hardmod my first 3ds. WOund up with a permanent blue screen. No nand backup at that time so it royally screwed my confidence. I know I can do it, but where did I screw up first time? Anyway, yes if there are multiple revisions; one for o3ds, o3ds xl, n3ds, and n3ds xl.

Im doing my hwk rn so may not reply frequently, but first of all a prototype will be made for the o3ds xl first as I have that one.

 

[Cjmcgiv]

If you could produce these I would buy one and my friends would too, this would be amazing!

 

[Deleted User]

While it seems a bad idea to most, why not OS the boards? A lot of people would rather buy one than make a PCB, get it soldered, etc.. but you also have to remember you may not be here to make them in x years

 

[The Real Jdbye]

I would do that, but the problem is there will be a big quantity, each will sell for around $15 + shipping, if you paid an extra $5 for me to solder the four points to a sd card, I could do it but not for everyone. remember 1k is a lot, 10k is even more!

If the company isn't willing to do that for you, then you could do even better, get them to include one of the known working USB chips on the board, with a microUSB port.
That would take away the guesswork and guarantee that everyone will have everything required to get the hardmod working. The compatible SD readers might be hard to get for some people otherwise, and not all of them work with every NAND chip.

 

[Gamingmeteor]

If the company isn't willing to do that for you, then you could do even better, get them to include one of the known working USB chips on the board, with a microUSB port.
That would take away the guesswork and guarantee that everyone will have everything required to get the hardmod working. The compatible SD readers might be hard to get for some people otherwise, and not all of them work with every NAND chip.

I am pretty confused about what you mean, if you use micro usb it will probe fry the NAND, so you need to solder it from micro usb to sd card. Meaning you may swell solder it to the four points.

 

[cravas]

If the company isn't willing to do that for you, then you could do even better, get them to include one of the known working USB chips on the board, with a microUSB port.
That would take away the guesswork and guarantee that everyone will have everything required to get the hardmod working. The compatible SD readers might be hard to get for some people otherwise, and not all of them work with every NAND chip.

I am pretty confused about what you mean, if you use micro usb it will probe fry the NAND, so you need to solder it from micro usb to sd card. Meaning you may swell solder it to the four points.

If you knew a bit more about the hardmod, you would know that He is talking about the SD reader (and the chip that uses) that you need to connect the hardmod to PC (SD reader to "translate" to USB so it is recognized in Windows).

What The Real Jdbye meant is that you could have your hardmod breadboard already connected to a recommended chip to make said translation.
And that also gives another hiccup: while Old 3ds (xl) work with a huge amount of chips, new 3ds is really picky with which ones Works.

To have a better idea, read this thread to see what those chips (SD Reader's) are:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-noob-friendly-nand-dumping-2ds-3ds-3ds-xl-n3ds-n3ds-xl.414498/

 

[Gamingmeteor]

If you knew a bit more about the hardmod, you would know that He is talking about the SD reader (and the chip that uses) that you need to connect the hardmod to PC (SD reader to "translate" to USB so it is recognized in Windows).

What The Real Jdbye meant is that you could have your hardmod breadboard already connected to a recommended chip to make said translation.
And that also gives another hiccup: while Old 3ds (xl) work with a huge amount of chips, new 3ds is really picky with which ones Works.

To have a better idea, read this thread to see what those chips (SD Reader's) are:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-noob-friendly-nand-dumping-2ds-3ds-3ds-xl-n3ds-n3ds-xl.414498/

I already know that it uses specific chips to usb from sd readers, but i guess i didn't really get what he said. To make my life simpler I would have just outright denied to do that, but I will be looking into that. Also I have made a barely functioning prototype of the actual product at home, it uses hair clips :| But still a step in the right direction

 

[Gamingmeteor]

Sadly due to the fact that K11 Exploits are coming out. This will be rather useless, so this is closed for now until it will be need again.

 

[ThisGuyOG]

Sadly due to the fact that K11 Exploits are coming out. This will be rather useless, so this is closed for now until it will be need again.

Well this could be useful for those who somehow bricked there 3ds and need to recover it via hardmod. This idea seems to have potential But then again A9LH, well I just like this idea

 

[Lotoonlink]

Well this could be useful for those who somehow bricked there 3ds and need to recover it via hardmod. This idea seems to have potential But then again A9LH, well I just like this idea

I agree with this, we just need to find more people who would be intrested and raise awarness of what this is.

 

[ThisGuyOG]

I agree with this, we just need to find more people who would be intrested and raise awarness of what this is.

If only there was a way........

 

[shadowfocus603]

I would buy in just for the peace of mind of knowing I had an easy way to recover in a worst case scenario event. The whole hard mod thing has always been iffy for me but I can see it's value for an otherwise unusable piece of hardware. Something that would serve that purpose without actually soldering on my motherboard would be far more elegant and user friendly.

 

[dark_samus3]

Not trying to be a downer here, but this just isn't going to work. Honestly, the amount of effort needed and the amount each is going to cost, I just don't see anyone buying it. I mean, if you can't solder 4 wires, then you really have no business trying to hardmod something. On everything but the original 3ds, there are huge pads for all of the connections that are really easy to solder to. The people who break pads off in the process aren't going to have much more luck with one of these things, simply because they aren't careful about how they go about doing things and there isn't much you can do for those kinds of people.

 

[Gamingmeteor]

In truth it costs less than $1 to manufacture each one in a large quantity. I will try atleast that is for sure. I have the problem of actually making it so that it can fit the pin connections on the mother board. Like I can't find a way to make the manufacturer input pins into every single piece. Well, not even one, so I could make it a little kit, where you do the pins yourself and then I'll find a way to make a usb connector that won't fry the NAND. But, I'll need prototypes, to fry, if things go wrong. And considering the amount of work it'll take it'll be a long time, before something like this will ever become mass produced.

 

[dark_samus3]

In truth it costs less than $1 to manufacture each one in a large quantity. I will try atleast that is for sure. I have the problem of actually making it so that it can fit the pin connections on the mother board. Like I can't find a way to make the manufacturer input pins into every single piece. Well, not even one, so I could make it a little kit, where you do the pins yourself and then I'll find a way to make a usb connector that won't fry the NAND. But, I'll need prototypes, to fry, if things go wrong. And considering the amount of work it'll take it'll be a long time, before something like this will ever become mass produced.

Making a USB connector that won't fry the NAND is simple, there are 5 pins on any mini/micro connector, one of them is a "sense" pin and is generally just pulled to ground with a resistor except in very rare cases. Just don't hook up to the 5v pin

 

[Gamingmeteor]

Hmmm. I'll try that. But as I said right now, isn't the time. Personally I would love to jump straight into this, but I need to build up my money reserves enough for this to come to all the people who want it.