Gaming Hard DS RPG?

[ore0]

Yeah, I know. I feel like a dick for making one of these already. I hate wasting peoples time so don't answer if you don't want to. I'm just looking for a rpg that is actually hard. Like, ya know, with some grinding. There are so many rpgs on the ds that are made so that you don't need to grind, but when I beat it I feel like I didn't work for it ya know?

 

[Mr.Positive]

Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey

Trust me, you'll feel like you've worked for it.

 

[viz]

the dark spire

 

[ore0]

Crap, sorry. I meant traditional turn-based rpg... hahaha... If you really want to I don't mind others, but I'm really looking for a hard turn-based rpg.

 

[Ritsuki]

Shin Megami Tensei : Strange Journey or Etrian Odyssey. I found Etrian Odyssey harder than SMTSJ

 

[Njrg]

Super Robot Teisen OG Saga.
You can start off with all 8 members fully powered up and throw in the largest attack/combo you can chain, only to find out you barely put a dent in a Boss' support. Its one of the few games out there that was hard for me even though I had Infinite HP/MP cheats active.

 

[PyroSpark]

Yeah, I know. I feel like a dick for making one of these already. I hate wasting peoples time so don't answer if you don't want to. I'm just looking for a rpg that is actually hard. Like, ya know, with some grinding. There are so many rpgs on the ds that are made so that you don't need to grind, but when I beat it I feel like I didn't work for it ya know?

That's not difficulty. That's BS added to give you the illusion of a long game.

 

[ShinRyouma]

Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy 4
Chrono Trigger
Lunar: Dragon Song
Suikoden Tierkreis
Dragon Quest 4
Dragon Quest 5
Dragon Quest 6
Sands of Destruction
A Witch's Tale
Black Sigil
Glory of Heracles
Nostalgia
SMT Strange Journey
Dungeon Maker
Wizard of Oz
My World, My Way
Dragon Ball Z: Attack of the Saiyans
The Dark Spire
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Dokapon Journey
Sigma Harmonics

Turnbased with Button timed action the halfway home for Mario and Luigi titles and the like.
Mario & Luigi : Partners in Time
Mario & Luigi : Bowsers inside story
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Endless Frontier
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Endless Frontier-EXCEED (J)
Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood

From the Sticky

 

[elixirdream]

you can try SaGa2
too bad they made it easier ....
otherwise, it could be one of the hardest turn based RPG ever made for DS

 

[ore0]

Yeah thanks. I think I'm gonna go with Etrian Odyssey, because I remember playing it a long time ago and quitting

 

[pitman]

Suikoden Tierkreis - Are you freaking kidding me this is easy as hell
Dragon Quest 4 Hard by nature
Dragon Quest 5 Hard by nature
Dragon Quest 6 Hard by nature
Sands of Destruction Sometimes easy some times ass-raping hard
Nostalgia - Stay away from airship battles in high places
SMT Strange Journey - If you learn about weaknesses the game is less hard (but still is)
My World, My Way Hit the A button enough times and you are finished

The Dark Spire - Old school hard

Turnbased with Button timed action the halfway home for Mario and Luigi titles and the like.
Mario & Luigi : Partners in Time Not really hard
Mario & Luigi : Bowsers inside story Not really hard
From the Sticky

 

[monkat]

Suikoden Tierkreis - Are you freaking kidding me this is easy as hell
Sands of Destruction Sometimes easy some times ass-raping hard

It's only hard until you spend an hour grinding. At that point, you never need to artificially level again until the very end. Which is, in fact, "ass-rapingly difficult."

 

[mrfatso]

Lunar Dragon Song is ridiculous, the monster scales with your level so, it's actually easier to play the game at low level then at high level :\

Hmm, the shin megami devil survivor/strange journey, those always makes me cry and swear

and the rest has been mentioned by the others.

Black Sigil is hard only at the beginning since there's a high encounter rate and let's face it, you are not exactly carrying shit loads of recovery items :\ But once you have a decent party, the game is pretty easy.

 

[Infinite Zero]

Ugh. Final Fantasy 3 and 12 gave me a hard time so much in the DS i didnt continue to play it

 

[naglaro00]

Final Fantasy 3

That's not hard

@topic:
Lunar: Dragon Song because the game sucks so much that it's hard
Sands of Destruction
Strange Journey

 

[pichon64]

Izuna: Legend of the Unemployed Ninja. You die constantly and lost all what you got: weapons, armor, items, everything. You just keep your level. The dungeons are randomly designed, so you just wander and wander and wander just trying not to be killed.

 

[ihiphopanonymous]

Final Fantasy IV was pretty hard...particularly the boss battles which could take trial and error to figure out the weaknesses if you're patient but I took the easy route and looked up a strategy guide hehe. Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey and Devil Survivor are also challenging games...Strange Journey especially. Still working towards beating both games but having a blast.

 

[weiHe]

definitely final fantasy 4

 

[Hells Malice]

Suikoden Tierkreis - Are you freaking kidding me this is easy as hell
Sands of Destruction Sometimes easy some times ass-raping hard

It's only hard until you spend an hour grinding. At that point, you never need to artificially level again until the very end. Which is, in fact, "ass-rapingly difficult."

The hell are you talking about?
At the...60%? mark of the game you will naturally be a high enough level to have your attacks chained. (y'know, 1 button push uses all 3 moves in a chain). After that point the game is easy as hell. I was really disappointed by how the difficulty dropped because of such a stupid addition to the games combat system.

Only hard turn based RPGs on the DS that i've played are SMT: Devil survivor/Strange Journey.
Both are pretty damn difficult. Devil survivor is definitely harder though.

Oh and no final fantasy game has ever been hard....so I have no idea why they were brought up.

 

[Ritsuki]

It's true that FF3 and 4 can be very hard, but once you find bosses's weaknesses and grind a little bit, it's fine. But they're really good games. The World Ends With You is really hard in hard mode, but much more interesting. You can still try Izuna or Shiren if you're not allergic to A-RPGs.