GW Dead? Updated news?

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  1. mijuu
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    Can anyone update me on the current status of GW? There has literally been nothing since February so I am assuming it is dead? Why have they been unable to release anything recently? But Luma can? What is it that they can't do, and why?
     
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    1. CFW is superior in every way to Gateway.
    2. CFW can be installed on any Gateway-compatible system for free.
    3. Because of #1 and #2, nobody buys Gateways anymore.
    4. Because of the flawed way in which Gateway works, each successive update from Nintendo requires Gateway to dedicate time and resources to publishing compatibility updates.
    So, to answer your question as to why Gateway has stopped publishing updates, there's no reason for #4 to happen because of #3. If people were still buying Gateways, they would have a financial reason to publish compatibility updates.

    It is highly recommended that people move to B9S and Luma3DS and ditch Gateway entirely. Luma3DS and B9S are superior in every way, and Gateway can accidentally brick or remove B9S if used improperly with B9S systems.
     
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    I would have thought that if no one was buying gateways equalling no profit revenue for the makers. Why wouldn't they open source their launcher and let someone else deal with it?

    I hate the install times of cias, its so slow.

    You are right though. If I didn't currently own a gateway I wouldn't buy one, as Luma is free. I purchased mine back when there was no cfw. I have cfw setup as well, but i prefer the card.
     
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    Most likely either pride or desperation to continue to cling onto the what little they have. Hell it could easily just be the latter.
    I mean they got their userbase by the balls (to put it crudely.) You either have to stick with them for .3DS ROM loading and cheats or convert to where you don't have .3DS and a decent cheat engine. So keeping it close source actually helps keep the userbase they haven't lost already.
     
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    IMHO the right question is: why there are people who actually buy Sky3ds and GW and still not using b9s+luma? :D
     
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    It maybe time to move on really. Launching that online hack so you can play online every time the 3ds turns on i foresee being a major pain in the arse, (I'm a very impatient person anyway...)

    is there any setup where i could still use the gw with older games but have emunand setup for cfw or dya think i should just fuck gw off entirely?

    it would be nice to convert the library but still be able to use gw on say 9.2 to quickly bang a game on the system whether for testing or whatever.

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    Convenience. The only thing that has stopped me converting fully in the past is cias take so bloody long to install. Thats my ONLY reason, never really used the cheats but apparently it is better but not a reason for me personally.

    Oh and Im a tight ass and dont want to buy a larger sd card. :)
     
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    There's basically a bit of work required to go from your current setup. You can still use your current emuNAND, but the gateway part (like saves and such) are going to require a lot of work.
    Guide to backing up your saves from the gateway cart
    https://gbatemp.net/threads/importing-gateway-saves-to-cia-games.425743/
    Guide to install B9S
    https://3ds.guide
    It also includes a part towards to end to flashing your emuNAND to your sysNAND.
    Your 3DS games you can actually convert them cia or redownload them through freeShop
    You can convert them using using this tool
    https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-3ds-simple-cia-converter.384559/
    Or GodMode9 and convert them directly on the system itself
    https://3ds.guide/godmode9-usage.html
     
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    Can you have gw on sysnand 9.2 and luma for emunand? Or is there a reason the other way round is better? I've always kept sysnand as stock. I much prefer any cock ups to be isolated to emunand.
     
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    Because gw on sysnand is risky, it has possiblity of a brick or losing CFW.
    If you really won't to use GW, use it on EmuNAND. But your EmuNAND will always outdated.
    Just trowing GW away, it's not worth it anymore.
     
  10. Arck

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    I personally still have Gateway + 11.2, didn't moved to B9S yet because I didn't touched my n3ds since I have my Switch, and will propably never if GW don't release their update.
    Sometime I follow this thread:
    http://www.maxconsole.com/threads/g...release-coming-soon.43938/page-23#post-359464

    And I still see that they are """working""" on it.
    I wonder if they are waiting 7th august to release their update, since it'll be the 4th year of their card.

    yes but you can use Luma on sysnand

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    It'll be an opportunity for the clones, if they are really dead it would'nt be dumb, but if they still care, won't happen.
     
  11. Lilith Valentine

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    I would honestly never suggest using Gateway on your sysNAND. It lacks FIRM0/1 protection and without that, any update will remove your hacks (and brick the n3DS, if that is still an issue with B9S. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.)
    I honestly suggest just backing up the saves/games, getting a bigger SD card, and going with a CFW. It's safer and it's a one time hassle.