Homebrew RELEASE GoldBricks NSP/NSZ Title Installer

[coffinbirth]

amazing piece of software

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briccmii says hi
its a harmless joke

Context says hi...

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Wow, thanks blawar, I really appreciate this, especially because XorTroll now intends to brick users based on their CFW choice.

Context needed. Who is Mr. Q and what is meant by "add any of my projects like they tend to do" and who is "they".

 

[linuxares]

Context needed. Who is Mr. Q and what is meant by "add any of my projects like they tend to do" and who is "they".

Mr. Q use the same logo as Xortroll. So might be him.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

"run it and crash"? He said overwriting NAND which is bricking, not crashing.

SafinWasi said "Why not overwrite NAND while you're at it" which was trolling but then XorTroll said "actually I would be willing to do that".

Again I don't know if the screenshot is real but suggesting that you will brick users that probably don't know any better is really low.

I think you missed the line between "why not overwrite the NAND" and "I would be willing to do that". The way I interpreted it he was still talking about removing SX OS.
Anyway, it's surely a joke. People joke about stuff all the time that they would never actually do and I don't believe @XorTroll would do such a thing. No self respecting developer would.

yeah, i know that. my point being is that homebrew shouldn't be restricted for no reason unless it's made to be exclusive for that specific cfw. team xecuter is scummy, but that doesn't mean devs have to restrict for people who prefer to use sxos.

that's just my opinion. if xor wants to restrict sxos, it's his decision and not mine. i feel that it's better for everyone to have the same experience.

Yeah. The users aren't at fault for TX' scummy behavior and most of them want specific features of SX OS that other CFW's just can't give them or they don't know any better. You could say they are to blame for supporting TX but that would just be pushing blame onto people when the real culprit is TX themselves.
Can't blame people for wanting XCI loading, or for just liking the simplicity of SX OS.
But I would still strongly recommend for everyone to switch , it's far more stable and works with sysmodules which SX currently doesn't, and using XCIs in the first place is a bad idea because it just creates more work for later when TX inevitably stop supporting their OS or people decide to switch because TX are lagging too far behind. And I do so in every thread I come across where people are still using SX. For me the switch took nothing but a bit of setup, because I had avoided using XCIs knowing I was not going to use SX OS forever, the same thing is inevitably going to happen that happened with Gateway 3DS.
Takes a bit more effort to install all of the XCIs, and for those that are using external HDDs, they'll have to decide what games to keep on their Switch or invest in a big MicroSD. But when all is said and done, I don't think anyone who makes the switch will miss SX OS.

All that said, I can totally understand why someone would want to boycott SX OS but going after its users is not the way to go about it. It's only going to annoy people and make them not use your homebrew, those people will find alternatives that work for them, it's not like there's a lack of alternatives in the Switch homebrew scene right now.

I find peculiar how toxic the Switch hacking community has become. If you want to fork a software, just do so without mocking the original creator. You all are great minds hindered by a stupid sense of childish pride.

It's mostly just blawar. And the ReSwitched Discord I hear can be kind of toxic as well due to the self-righteous people who believe Atmosphere is god and everything else is evil.

 

[eXhumer1]

@blawar can I ask, why it needs title redirection? I thought goldleaf didn't need it to install nsps from sdcard and usb?

NSZ uses more memory than what Applet Mode can provide.

 

[skinnyBIGGS]

Whats title redirection mean..? If i were to troll the sx os id just make a logo that does just that wouldnt brick consoles but i think its all chest bumping i really dont think a dev would do such a thing. I love his work and support atmosphere

 

[D3viloper]

Im in that discord too and the statement is completely outta context, without the first half can't you don't get the topic and why they wrote it (and those jokes).

 

[Hayato213]

Reading the opening post, ah man here we go again, what round is this?

 

[blawar]

Im in that discord too and the statement is completely outta context, without the first half can't you don't get the topic and why they wrote it (and those jokes).

by all means, post the full conversation. It is 100% in context. Xortroll is upset at TX for for including emuibii in their wish list, believes they will steal his code (does not matter if it’s true or not) and then states he would absolutely be willing to intentionally brick SX users because he does not like SX.

You can argue that he was not being serious, but he context is 100% spot. Unless you are going to argue that he is justified in bricking SX users because TX allegedly steals code?

I implore anyone who believes the screenshot is out of context to prove it by posting more of the conversation (with no edits or gaps of course).

edit: seriously though, if you post the full context, I will update the github to reflect to reflect whatever you wish. I would never post something spun out of context by someone, and I am not trying to mislead everyone. I stand by the current screenshot being 100% in context.

 

[Deleted User]

That "wish list" is a list of product suggestions and requests we frequently get on our discord from our users. It is in no way a TO DO list for SX OS, it's just a way for us to collect, organize, and present the requests we get from our users for the developers to reference.

 

[XorTroll]

Blawar, can you do me a favour and stop messing around with my work? My decision about supporting your damn formats won't change, so this doesn't help but cause more trouble and confusion.

And yes, that discord screenshot is indeed real, but I was exaggerating about SX. As others pointed out above, no respected dev would be willing to brick users. (However, anti-SX OS code is something different)

For anyone who has more than one or two brain cells, ignore this asshole and his work. And for any temp mods here, do me a favour and block this thread.

Goldleaf is indeed open source and can be forked, but come on, is it really necessary to make this even messier? What if I started making my own forks of scene projects I would like to slightly change? I would have dozens already. If you want to use NSZs and Goldleaf... man, just don't.

 

[blawar]

Blawar, can you do me a favour and stop messing around with my work? My decision about supporting your damn formats won't change, so this doesn't help but cause more trouble and confusion.

And yes, that discord screenshot is indeed real, but I was exaggerating about SX. As others pointed out above, no respected dev would be willing to brick users. (However, anti-SX OS code is something different)

For anyone who has more than one or two brain cells, ignore this asshole and his work. And for any temp mods here, do me a favour and block this thread.

Goldleaf is indeed open source and can be forked, but come on, is it really necessary to make this even messier? What if I started making my own forks of scene projects I would like to slightly change? I would have dozens already. If you want to use NSZs and Goldleaf... man, just don't.

I know that you will not change your mind on supporting NSZ, however many of your users do want NSZ support. For all of my faults, I do consistently give the users what they want (except no DRM ). This is the purpose of open source: if project maintainers go in a direction that users do not like, and the issue cannot be reconciled with the project maintainer, then the proper solution is to fork the project. If for whatever reason you do change your mind and add NSZ support, I will drop the fork.

I truly do hope that you reconsider your stance on NSZ, because believe me, I do not want to maintain a fork of yours any more than you want me to fork it.

 

[andyhappypants]

Nice! It seems the scene is moving towards NSZ support and it will only be a matter of time I imagine before XCZ becomes a thing too! Nice work @blawar and its great now the world knows xortrolls intententions towards SXOS users.

 

[supereuropa]

Blawar, can you do me a favour and stop messing around with my work? My decision about supporting your damn formats won't change, so this doesn't help but cause more trouble and confusion.

And yes, that discord screenshot is indeed real, but I was exaggerating about SX. As others pointed out above, no respected dev would be willing to brick users. (However, anti-SX OS code is something different)

For anyone who has more than one or two brain cells, ignore this asshole and his work. And for any temp mods here, do me a favour and block this thread.

Goldleaf is indeed open source and can be forked, but come on, is it really necessary to make this even messier? What if I started making my own forks of scene projects I would like to slightly change? I would have dozens already. If you want to use NSZs and Goldleaf... man, just don't.

I'll be honest, I prefer Goldleaf to Tinfoil and actively use it, mostly because there's no need to overwrite CFW files. But this approach to Goldleaf forking is not healthy for an open source project. I can understand not being willing to change your opinion about NSZ (even though it can be used as a non-piracy format just as NSP while also saving lots of space), but I can't understanding not even being willing to accept that other developers might change/fork Goldleaf, an open-source project, to support NSZ.
It makes me feel like this is just part of an aimless conflict. And this is coming from someone who is not using anything developed by Blawar at the moment.

 

[Deleted User]

@blawar

but anyway, idk why NSZ is hated. It install games faster than NSP

 

[JonJaded]

Good work! I also it's funny that xor said he would add anti-sx code. TX is not a relevant party here. AFAIK, hbg endorses AMS much more over SX, but whatever.

 

[linuxares]

Blawar, can you do me a favour and stop messing around with my work? My decision about supporting your damn formats won't change, so this doesn't help but cause more trouble and confusion.

And yes, that discord screenshot is indeed real, but I was exaggerating about SX. As others pointed out above, no respected dev would be willing to brick users. (However, anti-SX OS code is something different)

For anyone who has more than one or two brain cells, ignore this asshole and his work. And for any temp mods here, do me a favour and block this thread.

Goldleaf is indeed open source and can be forked, but come on, is it really necessary to make this even messier? What if I started making my own forks of scene projects I would like to slightly change? I would have dozens already. If you want to use NSZs and Goldleaf... man, just don't.

By do your respect, I LOVE Goldleaf, it's a fantastic piece of software. I however also LOVE saving space. I see reasons with nsz both for archive format and easy of transfer. It will always be abused. I mean "Roms" used a lot of compression formats. And a lot of devs are fine with that. For some reason a lot of devs feel old games are fine to pirate but not newer.

Also I know your guys fighting (you and blawar's) so I can totally understand it might look bad in each others eyes. But some people requested it from you https://github.com/XorTroll/Goldleaf/issues/417 and you feel it was just for piracy. I personally don't see it just for piracy.
Since blawar filled our wishes with adding addons for a compression we like and a software we love!

 

[Deleted User]

Finally a mod that understands

 

[Herald]

Blawar why not just create your own title installer with NSZ support from the ground up?
Instead of causing unnecessary drama within the community?

 

[whateverg1012]

I know that you will not change your mind on supporting NSZ, however many of your users do want NSZ support...

What kind of compression is NSZ? Is it lossless? I remember that with certain SNES roms the compression methods used resulted in the game looking weird at times.