Gaming is dead

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" (Christ...under what rock were you hiding when nintendo released NSMBW and NSMBU?"

i rest my case

Good point.
But anyway, and as you mentioned Castlevania somewhere, I think Cave Story is one of the best Metroidvanias ever (yes I know it was released like ten years ago and then milked like a cow, but still)
Also Super Meat Boy was a challenging and beautiful platformer, Skullgirls a really nice 2D fighting game, and so on...
And I don't name newer games because I haven't had time to play lately, but sure there are good games for any taste out there.
There are lots of great games in the indie scene, and if you want some oldschool hardcore style dungeon crawlers and RPGs, Atlus sure has something for you.
Also, even if Fire Emblem gameplay has been turned kind of easy, the latest entry provides tons of content, and I expect the next FE:if Nohr side to have tough gameplay as it should.
It is a very good time for Fire Emblem.

Of course, I am only speaking about my tastes and just giving a small number of examples, anyway there are lots of games offered, and I am sure anybody can find something great for their taste.

You can still find great games that will be good for your tastes.
The only thing I see missing from the past is a belief of being part of a society or group that hypes towards the same great games. (or something like that, my English failed here)
But that is because of marketing in a market that doesn't try to reach you anymore, you are not part of the mainstream market, so you are left out.
That is a consequence of becoming old, too bad.
 
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yeah there just needs to be more of it, and i think indie games have over taken most so called aaa games out there for the very fact that they are original and fun. I also think 3d has run its course, and nobody has any good ideas anymore that's why you will never seen another 2d castlevaina, metroid, or any of the top titles from the nes area...which is sad considering how much power they have to work with now. From the look of it the best we have to look forward to is unlimited runner games unless somehow Nintendo manages to fix that area with their new mobile partner.......one can wish.
 
Nintendo had fantastic N64 games. Kirby 64, Donkey Kong 64 and Mario 64 (i'm sensing a trend in titles here...) were phenomenal. Hell Kirby 64 and DK64 are still the best games in their franchise. Not to mention Star Fox 64 and Banjo Kazooie/Tooie.
Even gamecube era games were pretty solid. Windwaker AND Twilight Princess (yeah yeah a wii title too) were both very unique Zelda games that still felt like zelda games. Super Mario Sunshine was pretty neat and was a good sequel to SM64. Pikmin 1 and 2 were fun and solidly made. Gamecube gets shit on since it did start to let a few franchises go (star fox anyone?), but honestly it was still a pretty solid console era for Nintendoh.
As far as Nintendo titles are concerned, N64 blew SNES out of the water. The SNES had some real gems, but most of Nintendo's finest tiles are on the N64.

The Wii and 3DS is really where Nintendo just dropped the damn ball. The WiiU, the ball is just gone, they dropped that shit down a well and there ain't no Timmy to go get it.
The first-party titles on the N64 were pretty solid - shame that the console had nogaems besides first-party. The Gamecube had a more sizable library, but it was still minuscule in comparison to the PS2 and even the Xbox. Nintendo was already in the process of "dropping the ball" at that point, just in terms of licensing and hardware solutions.
 
Gaming isnt dead, it's just getting stupified. Between the dude-bros, the people who hat other gamers over console, liked genre or play style and add in the greedy ass companies and investors who don't know what gaming is about -yep, gaming has become dumb. My advice, stick with what you like and DONT blow through those games. Treat the games you like as if they were fine wine and take your time playing them. That should keep you satisfied.
 
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that's because the old stuff is the best some people fail to see that

Except the 90's were also full of failed/shit systems for example:
3DO
CDi
Atari Jaguar
Sega Saturn
32X/Sega CD
Amiga CD32
Apple Bandai Pippin
Nintendo 64DD (So bad it never made it out of Japan)
R-Zone
Virtual Boy
Game.com
Tiger anything

The 90's gaming market was just a wild west of gaming, they were just throwing shit at wall until something stuck. So really "old stuff is the best some people fail to see that," is it my failure to see how great these systems were or were they just bad on their own? Where things really better or are we just blinded by nostalgia?
Really every generation thinks their generation was the best and that's what holds back progress. Instead of accepting change, we continue to cling to the old thinking it was better because we enjoyed it. The reality is, the world has since moved on and that's what's going to continue to happen.
 
" (Christ...under what rock were you hiding when nintendo released NSMBW and NSMBU?"

i rest my case
Sure, no problem. At least you admit it when you're wrong. :)

Yes, I noticed your sarcasm. But since you don't care about giving reasons, I might as well ignore it.
 
"Sure, no problem. At least you admit it when you're wrong. :)"

except that im right the new super mario bros games aren't real mario games, and its not surprising that alot of people missed the point on the topic :lol:
 
Nintendo had fantastic N64 games. Kirby 64, Donkey Kong 64 and Mario 64 (i'm sensing a trend in titles here...) were phenomenal. Hell Kirby 64 and DK64 are still the best games in their franchise. Not to mention Star Fox 64 and Banjo Kazooie/Tooie.
Even gamecube era games were pretty solid. Windwaker AND Twilight Princess (yeah yeah a wii title too) were both very unique Zelda games that still felt like zelda games. Super Mario Sunshine was pretty neat and was a good sequel to SM64. Pikmin 1 and 2 were fun and solidly made. Gamecube gets shit on since it did start to let a few franchises go (star fox anyone?), but honestly it was still a pretty solid console era for Nintendoh.
As far as Nintendo titles are concerned, N64 blew SNES out of the water. The SNES had some real gems, but most of Nintendo's finest tiles are on the N64.

The Wii and 3DS is really where Nintendo just dropped the damn ball. The WiiU, the ball is just gone, they dropped that shit down a well and there ain't no Timmy to go get it.

I personally wouldn't put the 64 above the SNES because even 64's gems didn't quite age well to today's standards due to the limitations that Nintendo applied to the console whereas in comparison, the PlayStation eventually had dual analogue sticks which permitted for full use of proper character & camera control (still some games went with L + R for it).

Admittedly the N64, NGC and Wii all have some great games but they just didn't live up to their potential as PS1 (vs. 64), PS2 (vs. NGC) and 360/PS3 (vs. Wii - oddly 'cause the Wii is as powerful as an NGC) took over them. That's what it was, Nintendo consoles just haven't been doing well for years against 'rival' companies.

Nintendo prefers to see themselves in their own gaming world than being rivals to other gaming companies so it's another reason as to why their home consoles have a lower interest than the rest, and most of those customers are fans otherwise they'd be left with not much at all.

Btw, there's a discussion about Donkey Kong 64 here: http://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-rate-a-downloaded-game.385993/ buying old games and remembering of those nostalgic moments is nice and all but then you realise that that game just isn't very good any more.
 
My main issue is that consoles aren't plug & play anymore and have turned into dumbed down PCs with all the forced updates, patches etc that console gaming was supposed to circumvent in the first place. Call me crazy but I want to plug my console in, put the cart/disc whatever in and play the fucking game without any nonsense. DLC & pay2win style microtransactions have made a large part of gaming a scam even in full fledged $60 games which is pretty disgraceful. There are plenty of cool games coming out but console gaming just isn't as fun as it was for me in 1989-2003 or so imo. Nostalgia definitely plays a part but being simple plug & play devices is kinda the whole point of console gaming in my opinion.
 
My main issue is that consoles aren't plug & play anymore and have turned into dumbed down PCs with all the forced updates, patches etc that console gaming was supposed to circumvent in the first place. Call me crazy but I want to plug my console in, put the cart/disc whatever in and play the fucking game without any nonsense. DLC & pay2win style microtransactions have made a large part of gaming a scam even in full fledged $60 games which is pretty disgraceful. There are plenty of cool games coming out but console gaming just isn't as fun as it was for me in 1989-2003 or so imo. Nostalgia definitely plays a part but being simple plug & play devices is kinda the whole point of console gaming in my opinion.
You know, the Special / Collector and Limited Edition of games should have special-type discs which include all of the content as these customers are paying more than the rest so at least they should get the whole package but sadly.. It's not the case.

The UK edition of Mortal Kombat Kollector's Edition doesn't include the Season Pass nor the Goro DLC. What a scam.
 
Yeah man, that kind of nonsense is why I mostly emulate and play my old SNES-PS2 games(NES is broken so I emulate). I'd be more than happy to buy new, good games that don't have assloads of day 1/early DLC that was supposed to be in the game in the first place, microtrans bullshit and all the other stupid shit that's unfortunately become "normal" in modern games. I can deal with the updates/patches but taking shit out of full priced $60 games and selling it as "DLC" plus trying to make us pay for shit like cheats is just retarded and not something I can support. I 100% agree with you that limited/collector's editions should include ALL content since you're paying more for said versions; good call.
 
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Back in my day shovelware and indiegames were called freeware.
And there was a wonderful variety of fun games. Nowadays shooters are aimed at CoDtards or Mouse/Keyboard users, and most other games at 80's nostalgics and people willing to pay money for freeware neither of those 4 categories I fall under.
 
Expect RPG's, old games haven't aged well at all.

Doesn't mean they not great games, just like old people great inside and great personality... Just I would fuck them or put my dick any where near.

I want that young adult.. In they 20's with HD tits.
 

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