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Our annoying ORF Guys have a Live Radio Stream to Toto between the Sessions......
...he seems "not very happy" about that....:rofl2::yay:



So sad for Norris...awesome Lap.:yay:




Qualifying Grand Prix in Imola

After Q3:
1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 1:14,411
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 1:14,446
3. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 1:14,498
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 1:14,740
5. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 1:14,790
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 1:14,826
7. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 1:14,875
8. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes 1:14,898
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 1:15,210
10. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 1:16,791

Out in Q2:
11. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 1:15,199
12. George Russell GBR Williams 1:15,261
13. Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin 1:15,394
14. Nicholas Latifi CAN Williams 1:15,593
15. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1:15,593

Out in Q1:
16. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 1:15,974
17. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo 1:16,122
18. Mick Schumacher GER Haas 1:16,279
19. Nikita Mazepin RUS Haas 1:16,797
20. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri no Time
 

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It's bullshit Hamilton was exceeding track limits all through qualifying and no penalty. Lando does it and his time is wiped out. One rule for the champ and a different rule for all other drivers.

Again a very,very unclear Qualiying...many Drivers obviously has done this....:angry:
 

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Formula 1 needs to copy Indy car and get rid of track limits. Get rid of all the rules and just let them race.

Very Simple - Ban this shitty (Sausage)Curbs and smooth/asphalted run-out Zones and go back to classic Tracks (Curbs) and with Sand and Gravel/Rubble behind.
After one Weekend you will see,it will work (again).:)
 
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This is what racing is all about.

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It's bullshit Hamilton was exceeding track limits all through qualifying and no penalty. Lando does it and his time is wiped out. One rule for the champ and a different rule for all other drivers.

Uhhh no he wasn't.

I'm as gutted as anybody about Lando's penalty but there's no point letting emotions go wild and coming up with irrational arguments to a decision we don't like.

There were lots of track-limit violations all through free practice as well as q1 and q2. By q3 most drivers seemed to have gotten to grips with it.

Norris was on fire with that last lap. It was truly outstanding... You could see he was wringing the neck of that McLaren but unfortunately in doing so he breached the limits and had his lap deleted.

I don't generally agree with you about taking the Indycar approach. When I was growing up watching F1 track limits were never an issue. Why? Because when you went wide you were instantly off the nice sticky tarmack and in either gravel or grass which would have slowed you down anyway. On newer tracks with massive runoff areas there's no "natural" penalty so they need to do something.

I do, however, question the need to monitor the track limits at Imola. This isn't a new track and there are plenty of natural barriers to stop drivers running wide. So in my opinion there was no need to implement them here. However, seeing as they were being monitored, it's the same for everybody and you can't choose to not punish a driver just because the rest of his lap was amazing.
 
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New Nickname for Nikita Mazepin - Nick Mazespin.:P:D

Awesome McLaren / Norris.:yay:


GP of Emilia-Romagna in Imola

After 63 Laps:

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull
2. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes + 22,0 4
3. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 23,7 2
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 25,5 2
5. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 27,0 2
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 51,2 2
7. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 51,9 3
8. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 52,8 4
9. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 1:04,7 3
10. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 1:05,7 5
11. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1:06,5 3
12. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 1:07,1 2

Out: Valtteri Bottas (FIN/Mercedes), George Russell (GBR/Williams), Nicholas Latifi (CAN/Williams)

Fastest Lap: Hamilton
 
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New Nickname for Nikita Mazepin - Nick Mazespin.:P:D

Awesome McLaren / Norris.:yay:


GP of Emilia-Romagna in Imola

After 63 Laps:

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull
2. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes + 22,0 4
3. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 23,7 2
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 25,5 2
5. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 27,0 2
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 51,2 2
7. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 51,9 3
8. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 52,8 4
9. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 1:04,7 3
10. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 1:05,7 5
11. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1:06,5 3
12. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 1:07,1 2

Out: Valtteri Bottas (FIN/Mercedes), George Russell (GBR/Williams), Nicholas Latifi (CAN/Williams)

Fastest Lap: Hamilton
Absolutely brilliant race by Lando and great recovery by Lewis.

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Pretty sure I started calling him Mazespin back on page 48 Alexander :rofl2:
 
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Russell´s Crash has deeper Consequences for Mercedes:

The Mercedes Boss Toto Wolff not only holds Russell predominantly responsible for Bottas' retirement, but also indirectly for more serious problems.

"You can write off our car almost completely," Wolff said in light of the immense damage. "With the budget cap, it's definitely not something we needed. It probably limits the upgrades we can make."

Teams will be allowed to spend a maximum of $145 million on race car development and deployment in 2021. This is the first time in Formula 1 history that there has been such a cap. Mercedes has already had to scale down its efforts enormously to achieve this, with the world champion racing team having been well above the targeted sum in recent years. The accident ensures a further reduction in the development budget. "That means less performance on the car," Wolff clarifies.

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/...ssell-mercedes-nach-crash-mit-geld-problemen/
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I hate this fucking "after the Race" Penalties.....:angry:

(still inofficial) GP of Emilia-Romagna in Imola


After 63 Laps (309,049 km):

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 2:02:34,598
2. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes + 22,000
3. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 23,702
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 25,579
5. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 27,036
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 51,220
7. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 51,909
8. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 52,818
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 1:05,704
10. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1:06,561
11. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 1:07,151
12. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 1:18,184
13. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 1:34,772 *
14. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo 1 Lap
15. Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin 2 Laps
16. Mick Schumacher GER Haas 2 Laps
17. Nikita Mazepin RUS Haas 2 Laps

* Subsequent 30 Seconds Penalty for starting offense

Out: Valtteri Bottas (FIN/Mercedes), George Russell (GBR/Williams), Nicholas Latifi (CAN/Williams)

Fastest Lap: Hamilton 1:16,702 (60.)


Drivers Championship:

1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 44
2. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 43
3. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 27
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 20
5. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes 16
6. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 14
7. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 14
8. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 10
9. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 7
10. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 4
11. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 3
12. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 2
13. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1
14. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 0
15. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo 0
16. George Russell GBR Williams 0
17. Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin 0
18. Mick Schumacher GER Haas 0
19. Nikita Mazepin RUS Haas 0
20. Nicholas Latifi CAN Williams 0

Constructors:

1. Mercedes 60
2. Red Bull 53
3. McLaren 41
4. Ferrari 34
5. Aston Martin 7
6. Alpha Tauri 6
7. Alpine 4
8. Alfa Romeo 0
9. Williams 0
10. Haas 0

Next Race:
02.05.2021 - GP of Portugal in Portimao
 
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I hate this fucking "after the Race" Penalties.....:angry:

(still inofficial) GP of Emilia-Romagna in Imola


After 63 Laps (309,049 km):

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 2:02:34,598
2. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes + 22,000
3. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 23,702
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 25,579
5. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 27,036
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 51,220
7. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 51,909
8. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 52,818
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 1:05,704
10. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1:06,561
11. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 1:07,151
12. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 1:18,184
13. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 1:34,772 *
14. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo 1 Lap
15. Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin 2 Laps
16. Mick Schumacher GER Haas 2 Laps
17. Nikita Mazepin RUS Haas 2 Laps

* Subsequent 30 Seconds Penalty for starting offense

Out: Valtteri Bottas (FIN/Mercedes), George Russell (GBR/Williams), Nicholas Latifi (CAN/Williams)

Fastest Lap: Hamilton 1:16,702 (60.)


Drivers Championship:

1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 44
2. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 43
3. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 27
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 20
5. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes 16
6. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 14
7. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 14
8. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 10
9. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 7
10. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 4
11. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 3
12. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 2
13. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1
14. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 0
15. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo 0
16. George Russell GBR Williams 0
17. Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin 0
18. Mick Schumacher GER Haas 0
19. Nikita Mazepin RUS Haas 0
20. Nicholas Latifi CAN Williams 0

Constructors:

1. Mercedes 60
2. Red Bull 53
3. McLaren 41
4. Ferrari 34
5. Aston Martin 7
6. Alpha Tauri 6
7. Alpine 4
8. Alfa Romeo 0
9. Williams 0
10. Haas 0

Next Race:
02.05.2021 - GP of Portugal in Portimao
Thank god I thought for a moment you were gonna say Lando had been given a penalty lol.

Also nice to see Crash Vettel made it to the end of a race for once :rofl2:
 
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GP of Emilia-Romagna in Imola


After 63 Laps (309,049 km):

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 2:02:34,598
2. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes + 22,000
3. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 23,702
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 25,579
5. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 27,036
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 51,220
7. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 52,818
8. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 56,909 *
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 1:05,704
10. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1:06,561
11. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 1:07,151
12. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 1:18,184
13. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 1:34,772 **
14. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo 1 Lap
15. Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin 2 Laps
16. Mick Schumacher GER Haas 2 Laps
17. Nikita Mazepin RUS Haas 2 Laps

Out: Valtteri Bottas (FIN/Mercedes), George Russell (GBR/Williams), Nicholas Latifi (CAN/Williams)
Fastest Lap: Hamilton 1:16,702 (60.)

* * Subsequent 5 Seconds Penalty for overtaking Gasly with Advantage
** Subsequent 30 Seconds Penalty for Starting Offense




Drivers Championship:

1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 44
2. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 43
3. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 27
4. Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 20
5. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes 16
6. Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 14
7. Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren 14
8. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 10
9. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpha Tauri 6
10. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 5
11. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 2
12. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 2
13. Fernando Alonso ESP Alpine 1
14. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo 0
15. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo 0
16. George Russell GBR Williams 0
17. Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin 0
18. Mick Schumacher GER Haas 0
19. Nikita Mazepin RUS Haas 0
20. Nicholas Latifi CAN Williams 0


Constructors:

1. Mercedes 60
2. Red Bull 53
3. McLaren 41
4. Ferrari 34
5. Alpha Tauri 8
6. Aston Martin 5
7. Alpine 3
8. Alfa Romeo 0
9. Williams 0
10. Haas 0


Next Race:
02.05.2021 - GP of Portugal in Portimao
 
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At the restart I was hoping somehow Norris would manage to take the lead... I know the McLaren wouldn't have been fast enough to hold on to the lead, not in these days of DRS an silly tyres anyway, but it would have nice to see him lead a lap or two.

It's a shame they restarted under the safety car. A standing start would have been much more exciting.

Also am I the only one thinking it seemed to take waaaay to long for them to call the red flag. Just one look at the debris on the track after the accident made it obvious that they were going to need to stop the race, but it seemed to take race control an age to figure it out.

Rare mistake from Hamilton.
 
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It's a shame they restarted under the safety car. A standing start would have been much more exciting.

Marko/Red Bull "insisted" on the rolling Start,because one Side (that one from Verstappen) of the Starting Grid was wet.:)
Funny,Verstappen nearly "throws away" the Race before the Restart by himself....:D

 

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