For strong womyn everywhere: "Internet Plus Equality"

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Side note: I still don't understand why any self-respecting black or asian resident of the States would call themselves "Afro-American" or "Asian-American" if they were born and raised in America. They're just Americans who happen to be black or asian by birth, they have f*ck-all to do with Africa or Asia, so they should stop differentiating themselves from the bulk of the American population. If we're all for equality, let's not build abstract boundries and accept standardized national identities. Nationality and race are two different things altogether - you're all Americans.

I think Michael Richards is the only person who still uses "Afro-American." :P

America's a big melting pot and we Americans tend to pride ourselves on that. Being an American, for many, means embracing your American culture and your original roots and blending them together. It's not just black people or asians; we've got Hispanic-Americans, Italian-Americans (as Jersey Shore no doubt showed the world), Irish-Americans, German-Americans, etc., each incorporating bits of their culture into the larger patchwork of American culture. As paradoxical as it may seem, it's not really considered wrong for someone to see themselves as, say, Japanese and American.

TL;DR: Yuropoor can't understand our freedoms, what else is new

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Is that why people insist on telling me they are Irish on St Patrick's day? Likewise I find it terribly amusing when someone tells me they are 1/64th [blah].

However I have not been insulting enough so.... "American culture", has the place been around long enough to have one, or is that why they have to pinch bits of others?
 
I think Michael Richards is the only person who still uses "Afro-American." :P

America's a big melting pot and we Americans tend to pride ourselves on that. Being an American, for many, means embracing your American culture and your original roots and blending them together. It's not just black people or asians; we've got Hispanic-Americans, Italian-Americans (as Jersey Shore no doubt showed the world), Irish-Americans, German-Americans, etc., each incorporating bits of their culture into the larger patchwork of American culture. As paradoxical as it may seem, it's not really considered wrong for someone to see themselves as, say, Japanese and American.

TL;DR: Yuropoor can't understand our freedoms, what else is new

:^)
I realize that, your culture is a part of my course, y'know. My point is, if we're talking about some black guy who's family was taken to the great U.S and A centuries ago, he's so detached from his "African roots" at this point that mentioning them is almost redundant. You get to hear a lot about celebrating your roots but in many cases this "celebration" is crooked or a made-up construct altogether that has nothing to do with original customs. I'm all for celebrating your roots and ethnic identity but I don't think that building artificial distinctions like "African-American", "Asian-American" or "Hispanic-American" is in any way beneficial. Melting pot or not, it would be far more effective to embrace the fact that most of those people are just "American". It just seems to me like a way of incorporating the Canadian cultural mosaic (which instead of unifying communities just made them more detached) and it's counter-productive. Then again, it opens many doors for professional victimhood and blaming all the wrongs in the world on those dreaded white Americans, especially W.A.S.P's, because y'know, they're different.

By the way, mixing cultures together and still retaining distinct identities is the salad bowl approach, the melting pot implies a fine mixture. The salad bowl is the latest approach, the melting pot sort of faded away, but hey. :P

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I realize that, your culture is a part of my course, y'know. My point is, if we're talking about some black guy who's family was taken to the great U.S and A centuries ago, he's so detached from his "African roots" at this point that mentioning them is almost redundant. You get to hear a lot about celebrating your roots but in many cases this "celebration" is crooked or a made-up construct altogether that has nothing to do with original customs. I'm all for celebrating your roots and ethnic identity but I don't think that building artificial distinctions like "African-American", "Asian-American" or "Hispanic-American" is in any way beneficial. Melting pot or not, it would be far more effective to embrace the fact that most of those people are just "American". It just seems to me like a way of incorporating the Canadian cultural mosaic (which instead of unifying communities just made them more detached) and it's counter-productive. Then again, it opens many doors for professional victimhood and blaming all the wrongs in the world on those dreaded white Americans, especially W.A.S.P's, because y'know, they're different.

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I think that's looking at it a bit harshly. Trying to find roots that you can connect to and identify with doesn't separate you from the rest of the pack - if anything, it helps you fit in. There's nothing inherently wrong with that.

There's people that go too far, and they deserve all the criticism and ridicule, but it's a bit unfair to throw everyone under that label. Not every black/asian/hispanic/etc. person who takes pride in their heritage is that much of an extremist, much in the same way that not every white person who takes pride in their heritage is in the klan.

However I have not been insulting enough so.... "American culture", has the place been around long enough to have one, or is that why they have to pinch bits of others?

Well, when you're only a couple centuries old and come of age as globalization is doing its thing, you make do with what you've got.
 
I think that's looking at it a bit harshly. Trying to find roots that you can connect to and identify with doesn't separate you from the rest of the pack - if anything, it helps you fit in. There's nothing inherently wrong with that.

There's people that go too far, and they deserve all the criticism and ridicule, but it's a bit unfair to throw everyone under that label. Not every black/asian/hispanic/etc. person who takes pride in their heritage is that much of an extremist, much in the same way that not every white person who takes pride in their heritage is in the klan.
Oh, I'm sorry if it came across that way - people should absolutely take pride in their heritage, I was thinking of those who overdo it and end up making up completely imaginary heritage to fill in the gaps, aka the extremists who use said heritage specifically to differentiate themselves from others and put themselves on a pedestal. Of course everyone should remember their roots, I was refering to the Suey Parks of this world who will go out to say that "of course a white male wouldn't understand their terrible woes" when for all intents and purposes it's 'murrica and people should celebrate equality, not divisions.
 
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Not all is lost, after all proper satire should be indistinguishable from the thing it is satirising. However it does mean we should spam a few more pages to get the smart ones that read the first page and the last pages.
 
Okay, enough with the making sense, that's not what this thread is about.


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