Hacking Flash Carts and the 3DS

[lolzed]

The only way to completely block flash carts 100% is to completely block every DS game cartridge. Some way, some how, there should always be an exploit that Nintendo hasn't thought patching.

Not true.

Why then did non-i cards get blocked?

lol just saying.

 

[Zetta_x]

I mean, if they completely blocked every DS game cartridge, then typical flash carts now would not work considering flashcarts run by loading game code off a cartridge

However, flashcart makers can exceed above expectations and create flash carts that do not run off of cartridges. They would require either a custom firmware or use a function that Nintendo implemented to exploit a way to load homebrew code of course!

 

[fgghjjkll]

Guys. If the homebrew scene was lively for the DSi, obviously, it would get hacked pretty quickly. Ever wondered why the DS/L got hacked? It had many homebrew possibilities and probably most importantly, boot Nintendo DS backups via Slot 2. This is how it all started when everyone wanted to load some electroplankton on their EZ Flash IV and darkfader and his crew developed passme.

DSi's homebrew potential? Pretty big, with its beefier processor, larger screens and cameras.
Piracy? Not really interesting. Only 1-2 DSi exclusive games have come out...

 

[ACWWFAN]

Guys. If the homebrew scene was lively for the DSi, obviously, it would get hacked pretty quickly. Ever wondered why the DS/L got hacked? It had many homebrew possibilities and probably most importantly, boot Nintendo DS backups via Slot 2. This is how it all started when everyone wanted to load some electroplankton on their EZ Flash IV and darkfader and his crew developed passme.

DSi's homebrew potential? Pretty big, with its beefier processor, larger screens and cameras.
Piracy? Not really interesting. Only 1-2 DSi exclusive games have come out...

Has everyone forgotten about DSiware?

 

[shamiko_]

Noo it the end of dstwo

more ap from ninty

(it's really byebye to the acekard ;(

 

[TM2-Megatron]

Has everyone forgotten about DSiware?

You can already carry around multiple DSiware titles without needing a flashcart... you want to play them? Buy them.

Not all people who crack consoles are pirates, or have any interest in encourage piracy. I use DS flashcarts to make sure my fair use rights with regards to making back ups of cartridges and save data aren't violated, not to pirate. As I've said, cracking DSi mode would only encourage piracy of DSiware... titles which are already dirt cheap. Any ethical hacker working on DSi mode probably wouldn't release his or her work, if they ever were successful. It would serve no purpose other than piracy, whereas cracking the DS accomplished a great deal. Yeah, it was also good for pirates, but that wasn't it's only purpose by far.

 

[how_do_i_do_that]

It will probably be a limited version of the game installed like a wii channel.

 

[TheViolentOne]

iwata said it will be %100 unhackable but I have 3 word to say to iwata:

THERE ?S NOTH?NG UNHACKABLE!!!

sorry that was 4 words

 

[Deleted-167431]

I think that the card thinking method (used on the 1.4 patched cards) will be fixed on the 3DS.

 

[fgghjjkll]

Guys. If the homebrew scene was lively for the DSi, obviously, it would get hacked pretty quickly. Ever wondered why the DS/L got hacked? It had many homebrew possibilities and probably most importantly, boot Nintendo DS backups via Slot 2. This is how it all started when everyone wanted to load some electroplankton on their EZ Flash IV and darkfader and his crew developed passme.

DSi's homebrew potential? Pretty big, with its beefier processor, larger screens and cameras.
Piracy? Not really interesting. Only 1-2 DSi exclusive games have come out...

Has everyone forgotten about DSiware?

Yes. Because most of the DSiWare offered atm is not worth buying.

 

[Arwen20]

I would like to be able to play Nintendo DS games using my flash cart. If I cannot play 3DS games using a flash cart, then I guess I will make do. Especially if games like Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus, Zelda Ocarina of Time, and Starfox are released. Who could resist?

 

[Nollog]

iwata said it will be %100 unhackable but I have 3 word to say to iwata:

THERE ?S NOTH?NG UNHACKABLE!!!

sorry that was 4 words

You has got source?

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

iwata said it will be %100 unhackable but I have 3 word to say to iwata:

THERE ?S NOTH?NG UNHACKABLE!!!

sorry that was 4 words

You has got source?

Yeah, it's called common sense.

The only other factors you have to take into account are time and interest. If there is no interest at all in hacking a certain console, it will take a very long time until something actually happens, et vice versa.

 

[Nollog]

iwata said it will be %100 unhackable but I have 3 word to say to iwata:

THERE ?S NOTH?NG UNHACKABLE!!!

sorry that was 4 words

You has got source?

Yeah, it's called common sense.

The only other factors you have to take into account are time and interest. If there is no interest at all in hacking a certain console, it will take a very long time until something actually happens, et vice versa.

That's not a source on something someone allegedly said.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

Oh, crap, I only now noticed that the first sentence of that post contained the info you were quoting and replying to, disregard my reply, please.

 

[Thoob]

iwata said it will be %100 unhackable but I have 3 word to say to iwata:

NOTH?NG ?S UNHACKABLE!!!

Is it not easier to do this if you wanted three words?

 

[ProtoKun7]

If there is no interest at all in hacking a certain console, it will take a very long time until something actually happens, et vice versa.

To add to this: It's all related to man-hours. The fewer people that work on a console mean that it will eventually take longer, whereas if there are a lot of people working on a console then that time can be sharply reduced. The 3DS will likely be one of the latter. (I hope)

 

[Deleted-188346]

I was thinking...Flash Cards (simply being able to play retail cartridge-based games) shouldn't take too long to appear for the 3DS. After all, it didn't take long for the Flash Card teams to release the DSi versions of their cards.

Of course, the only problem will be Nintendo patching them out. And, more than likely people won't be able to crack the firmware of the 3DS to prevent Nintendo from updating it automatically, or from detecting the cards.

 

[mysticwaterfall]

They were able to quickly release DSi versions (in DS mode, anyways) since was a hardware revision. The 3DS will take longer because it's new. Like I said before, I think DS mode will be unlocked first, but then there will be a bit of time before 3ds mode is (1-1.5 years).

I've been thinking lately there might also be a possibility of a "homebrew channel" like on Wii as well. That would be cool. Would certainly make the emulators easier to do.

EDIT: There's a WiFi on/off switch, so you could block updates that way. They could start including updates on games and force you to have that firmware to play the game. Of course, the community could then make equivalents of stuff we have on Wii like DOP-IOS and Wii Update Manager to get around those... I think in general it might be a lot like Wii where we have to keep installing odd IOS'es/patches/what not to keep things running smoothly without updating.

 

[tk_saturn]

I was thinking...Flash Cards (simply being able to play retail cartridge-based games) shouldn't take too long to appear for the 3DS. After all, it didn't take long for the Flash Card teams to release the DSi versions of their cards.

Of course, the only problem will be Nintendo patching them out. And, more than likely people won't be able to crack the firmware of the 3DS to prevent Nintendo from updating it automatically, or from detecting the cards.

You have the wrong end of the stick. The DSi hasn't been cracked, the carts just run in DS mode. The same will go for the 3DS, the carts will only play DS games. It could easily take a few years for a native 3DS cart to appear, it took quite a while for the first native DS cart to appear.