Epstein had no client list!

[Crass]

MAGA is already coming to terms with Trump being a pedophile and child pimp and are justifying it in the oddest ways. That's who so many of them are hushing up about this and falling into line, like they always do.

My MAGA buddy told me if the Epstein Files are released and it is revealed that Trump was involved with supplying and pimping out girls from his beauty pageants to Epstein and others, that it isn't PROOF that Trump is doing anything nefarious really. In fact it shows that Trump was acting like an undercover agent, exposing the "cabal" from the inside and doing his own research. And when he was in compromised situation he would sample the girls himself, to keep his cover, just like an undercover cop might sample cocaine in front of the drug dealer he is trying to infiltrate and arrest. And we wouldn't charge a cop for doing that, right, it's part of his job as an investigator. Wild stuff, stay stupid folks.

 

[Citizen_404]

Any proof or source the "list" is real? Enough with the infantile conspiracy theories.

How 'bout this:

 

[CMDreamer]

Elon Musk has the truth on his X message.

"There wasn't any Epstein's list because I'm on it..." Trumpet's words.

 

[titan_tim]

And then these so-called conservatives pretend to be Christians and Law&Order fans... it's actually really pathetic, just like figurehead this cult members have chosen for themselves. We should publicly shame all of them wherever we meet them. Call them out for what they are and do not give them a single minute of rest for the rest of their sad lives. The reason they are able to pull all of these things off is that we let them. I wonder why the orange shit stain isn't calling this a witch-hunt, yet. Would just be the last piece missing to demonstrate he's 100% guilty

What's really crazy is when this thread first started, the other user who has a shy guy avatar (not the one here denying reality) posted a meme which basically showed that he didn't believe there wasn't a client list. Soon after he removed the image. Then he removed the comment entirely.

He reacted normally to the news in disbelief, and made fun of the announcement. Then he felt embarrassed that he went against his own cult, so he deleted the image. Then he deleted the entire comment. It's pretty sad to see that level of denying what you know is right.

 

[DiscostewSM]

 

[pustal]

Just the usual far right double standards and hypocrisy really

This meme was from the Matt Gaetz era, but I think it applies here:

 

[Dark_Ansem]

What's really crazy is when this thread first started, the other user who has a shy guy avatar (not the one here denying reality) posted a meme which basically showed that he didn't believe there wasn't a client list. Soon after he removed the image. Then he removed the comment entirely.

He reacted normally to the news in disbelief, and made fun of the announcement. Then he felt embarrassed that he went against his own cult, so he deleted the image. Then he deleted the entire comment. It's pretty sad to see that level of denying what you know is right.

I know, i had such high hopes for him. Turns out there really isn't more to him other than being an easily swayed dumb kid.

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

So, have you decided to defend Clinton now because the evidence that would convict him would also convict Trump?

Bill Clinton being a regular to Epstein Island doesn't mean that there is a real list.

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MAGA is already coming to terms with Trump being a pedophile and child pimp and are justifying it in the oddest ways. That's who so many of them are hushing up about this and falling into line, like they always do.

My MAGA buddy told me if the Epstein Files are released and it is revealed that Trump was involved with supplying and pimping out girls from his beauty pageants to Epstein and others, that it isn't PROOF that Trump is doing anything nefarious really. In fact it shows that Trump was acting like an undercover agent, exposing the "cabal" from the inside and doing his own research. And when he was in compromised situation he would sample the girls himself, to keep his cover, just like an undercover cop might sample cocaine in front of the drug dealer he is trying to infiltrate and arrest. And we wouldn't charge a cop for doing that, right, it's part of his job as an investigator. Wild stuff, stay stupid folks.

That's a totally real conversation you had and not at all made up.

 

[Darth Meteos]

the same people who said trans people were groomers and it's all about the children are now coping their way to believing that uncovering the members of the elite pedo ring is a waste of our time lmao
do you people ever look at yourselves in the mirror or is that too confronting for you

nazi lives don't matter

 

[SeltzerMist]

the same people who said trans people were groomers and it's all about the children are now coping their way to believing that uncovering the elite pedo ring is a waste of our time lmao
do you people ever look at yourselves in the mirror or is that too confronting for you

nazi lives don't matter

Reminder that there's a disproportionate amount of sexual misconduct committed by Republicans, many of which involved children

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...n-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-56

- 1400 examples

 

[granville]

Reputable psychological studies have shown that in the vast majority of cases, child molesters are heterosexual. This also includes adult men who molest underage boys as well. Per psychologist Dr A Nicholas Groth, a researcher who has written books on the subject-

They see the boy as a projected representation of themselves. They feel themselves to be more child than adult – more boys than men – and therefore find themselves more comfortable (especially sexually) in the company of children.

https://zeroabuseproject.org/victim-assistance/jwrc/keep-kids-safe/sexuality-of-offenders/

As the article also notes-

Medical data backs up this psychological observation. In a 1994 study, researchers reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children’s hospital as a result of being sexually abused. In looking at charts for a one year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992), the researchers found that the molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1 percent of cases (2 of 269) in which the adult molester could be identified. (Jenny, Roesler, and Poyer, 1994).

There are also crossovers with the psychology of rape, which has been found to not be exclusively or even primarily motivated by sexual urges, but rather power and want to inflict violence.

No, I don't expect stupid and/or evil people to give two shits about these facts.

 

[gnmmarechal]

MAGA is already coming to terms with Trump being a pedophile and child pimp and are justifying it in the oddest ways. That's who so many of them are hushing up about this and falling into line, like they always do.

My MAGA buddy told me if the Epstein Files are released and it is revealed that Trump was involved with supplying and pimping out girls from his beauty pageants to Epstein and others, that it isn't PROOF that Trump is doing anything nefarious really. In fact it shows that Trump was acting like an undercover agent, exposing the "cabal" from the inside and doing his own research. And when he was in compromised situation he would sample the girls himself, to keep his cover, just like an undercover cop might sample cocaine in front of the drug dealer he is trying to infiltrate and arrest. And we wouldn't charge a cop for doing that, right, it's part of his job as an investigator. Wild stuff, stay stupid folks.

There should be a PhD in mental gymnastics here somewhere

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

Reputable psychological studies have shown that in the vast majority of cases, child molesters are heterosexual. This also includes adult men who molest underage boys as well. Per psychologist Dr A Nicholas Groth, a researcher who has written books on the subject-



https://zeroabuseproject.org/victim-assistance/jwrc/keep-kids-safe/sexuality-of-offenders/

As the article also notes-



There are also crossovers with the psychology of rape, which has been found to not be exclusively or even primarily motivated by sexual urges, but rather power and want to inflict violence.

No, I don't expect stupid and/or evil people to give two shits about these facts.

That link you shared is pure propaganda.
It says that most little boys being molested isn't done by gay men because 80% of the abuse is being done by straight (yeah right) and BISEXUAL men. As if bisexuals aren't gay lol.

What does the B stand for in LGBT again?
Even when trying to purposely fudge the numbers and skew the data by throwing in bisexual to get a better result gay men STILL represented 21% of the child molesters which is massively disproportionate to their population. Which was my entire argument to begin with.

If you include bisexuals in that number too its over 50+%. Oof.

 

[titan_tim]

For those that missed it, the prosecutor who was the lead prosecutor against Epstein and Maxwell was recently fired. Setting the stage for Maxwell's soon to be pardon.

The birthday letter which the WSJ recently released was a warning shot by Maxwell to show she has more incriminating evidence against Trump. Which is why the WSJ knew it was real, and why Trump is doing even more to fast-pace her release.

He is 100% being blackmailed and compromised.

 

[Xzi]

For those that missed it, the prosecutor who was the lead prosecutor against Epstein and Maxwell was recently fired. Setting the stage for Maxwell's soon to be pardon.

The birthday letter which the WSJ recently released was a warning shot by Maxwell to show she has more incriminating evidence against Trump. Which is why the WSJ knew it was real, and why Trump is doing even more to fast-pace her release.

He is 100% being blackmailed and compromised.

You think he'll actually go through with suing WSJ? Seems like a lose-lose for Pedonald and a win-win for everybody else, since if he does sue, he's basically suing Rupert Murdoch, and he would have to subject himself to discovery. If he chickens out, that confirms the birthday card is authentic, and we all know what the "secret" he shared with Epstein was.

 

[SeltzerMist]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...ongino-fbi-agents-durbin-wall-street-journal/

So if we do get an "official" WH release it's potentially going to be suspect.

 

[titan_tim]

You think he'll actually go through with suing WSJ? Seems like a lose-lose for Pedonald and a win-win for everybody else, since if he does sue, he's basically suing Rupert Murdoch, and he would have to subject himself to discovery. If he chickens out, that confirms the birthday card is authentic, and we all know what the "secret" he shared with Epstein was.

There's no way he'll sue. He's one of the most litigious people in history. But he'll never sue when it'll make him look worse. This is one of those times.

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You think he'll actually go through with suing WSJ? Seems like a lose-lose for Pedonald and a win-win for everybody else, since if he does sue, he's basically suing Rupert Murdoch, and he would have to subject himself to discovery. If he chickens out, that confirms the birthday card is authentic, and we all know what the "secret" he shared with Epstein was.

I stand corrected. Seems like he's already filing suit for billions against Murdoch. Completely frivolous and should lose. Just like his frivolous suit against Bob Woodward was dropped recently.

Let's see if this ever goes to discovery.

 

[Xzi]

I stand corrected. Seems like he's already filing suit for billions against Murdoch. Completely frivolous and should lose. Just like his frivolous suit against Bob Woodward was dropped recently.

Let's see if this ever goes to discovery.

Yeah it's still very much possible that they slow walk it and quietly drop the case years later. Turns out Murdoch personally signed off on publishing this story too, so WSJ has definitely done their due diligence here, and the right-wing rift is definitely real and growing larger by the day.

 

[Crass]

What stage are we on:

• He didn't say/do it.
• He did it, but it's not illegal.
• It's illegal but so what? There's worse crimes and it's way in the past so who cares.
• Actually it's a good thing he did it. What about Obama/Clinton/Hunter and the woke media not covering that? Actually it's their fault they normalized this.

 

[granville]

I had been wondering what was going on with Trump's bizarre behavior lately regarding the Epstein stuff.. He was still heavily pushing it just last month, then very abruptly came out and starting screaming at everyone. "There are no files, there are files but they're a liberal hoax, and you're stupid and not a real MAGA if you care about Epstein."

The pivot was bizarre and out of nowhere, the handling of it insane even by Trump's standards. If he wanted to bury it, he could have just said "the investigation is ongoing, we'll let you know when we've got an update". It would likely eventually be forgotten and buried. But the way he's handled this indicated something sent him into a sudden panic.

It's clear now that this WSJ story was at least partially the reason. He was likely forewarned that it was coming, so he scrambled to try and get ahead of it with a bunch of deranged claims and threats.

Yeah it's still very much possible that they slow walk it and quietly drop the case years later. Turns out Murdoch personally signed off on publishing this story too, so WSJ has definitely done their due diligence here, and the right-wing rift is definitely real and growing larger by the day.

WSJ's parent company says they're 100% standing by the story and to "bring it on" regarding a lawsuit. Trump has failed to threaten a retraction/apology. They must have iron clad confidence in the story and ability to prove it in court, definitely knew Trump would try to sue them too. Will be interesting to see what happens if he doesn't back down.

Trump's best play here would be to drop the lawsuit and just let things play out and hope it passes. It would be an admission that the story is true, but it's better than opening the can of worms that is the discovery process. At the moment, Trump still effectively controls the information the government has about Epstein. If he sues, much of that control evaporates and a lot of the information would be unearthed in discovery.