Homebrew [WIP] 3DeSmume (DS emulator for 3DS)

[mgrev]

yay. here come's the noobs. grrat work though!

 

[skawo]

On top of being run on an underpowered console, DeSmuMe is bloated to all heck and back, so this will need so much optimization to run at any sort of decent speed you may as well write a new emulator.

 

[Pandaxclone2]

Wasn't it said at least a few times that he was working on porting/reworking DeSmuMe but now he's decided to use another emulator that has much more promising results except for graphical problems? If so then all these claims of DeSmuMe 3DS going to have poor performance while founded are irrelevant.

 

[Xiphiidae]

Wasn't it said at least a few times that he was working on porting/reworking DeSmuMe but now he's decided to use another emulator that has much more promising results except for graphical problems? If so then all these claims of DeSmuMe 3DS going to have poor performance while founded are irrelevant.

I know he said "don't quote me on this", but here:

Don't quote me on this, but I think it was because he was in the process of moving to a new base for his code. On his profile he was talking about how he wasn't seeing any changes between branches of Desmume, so he was going to use DSonPSP instead.

 

[Pandaxclone2]

Wasn't quite directed at you @Xiphiidae so much as everyone here in general talking about that, but thank you.

 

[Xiphiidae]

Wasn't quite directed at you @Xiphiidae so much as everyone here in general talking about that, but thank you.

Well, you asked a question, so I tried to answer it, but you're welcome.

Also, I should note that much of the criticism wasn't necessarily aimed at it potentially being based of DeSmuMe itself, but rather at the notion of having a DS emulator on the 3DS in the first place, such as:
"[...]but the 3DS is just not powerful enough to ever play non-hardware emulated DS games at playable speeds. Emulation requires significantly more raw power than the actual console you're trying to emulate, something the 3DS just doesn't have. In the end, this will probably be borderline useless."

 

[Kartik]

Its better have something than nothing

 

[Pandaxclone2]

It's true the emulation for the DS would probably be lacking sorely in performance but you can make the same case with some other emulators we already have out on the 3DS now. Some are lacking features and compatibility and there's a minor few that are in a similar boat to this and barely out of alpha testing waters. Heck, we even have one person trying to code an N64 emulator and that isn't even expected to run at average capacity for most of its games. If anything it's too early to tell but it's worth it to push the boundaries and see how far this project could go then to just give up before it has even started.

Also, I know you answered it but the way you worded it suggested as if I were asking you specifically. Besides which it was a rhetorical question.

 

[Xiphiidae]

It's true the emulation for the DS would probably be lacking sorely in performance but you can make the same case with some other emulators we already have out on the 3DS now. Most are lacking features and compatibility and there's a minor few that are in a similar boat to this.

I agree.

Its better have something than nothing

That's exactly my point. It is better to make a thread when you have some definitive proof or demonstration, than none.

But, anyway, this is getting off-topic.


I look forward to the future of this, regardless of how it turns out.

 

[hacksn5s4]

this will lag as hell it would be better for you to spend the time and effort of finding away to load ds roms with out using an emulator and the real ds hardware in the 3ds

 

[Pandaxclone2]

this will lag as hell it would be better for you to spend the time and effort of finding away to load ds roms with out using an emulator and the real ds hardware in the 3ds

Better than nothing. Besides, the only other way you'd be doing this is through flashcarts or the TWL firmware. This just happens to be the butterzone option between the two; should be marginally easier to do than TWL modification (don't quote me on that) but more effort than just using a flashcart.

Also, the 3DS doesn't really have DS hardware so much as it has firmware that utilises a CPU that is essentially downclocked to a DSi. (Which in turn is an overclocked DS.)

 

[Kartik]

I agree.


That's exactly my point. It is better to make a thread when you have some definitive proof or demonstration, than none.

But, anyway, this is getting off-topic.


I look forward to the future of this, regardless of how it turns out.

Looking at how much skepticism this thread is facing,I am not sure if it has a future..

 

[athemoe]

What do you mean by 'decent' FPS?
Good work though, will this be a .3dsx homebrew or a cia?

You know that you can make a cia from a .3dsx file if you have the .elf right?

 

[AmandaRose]

The mods on here really need to shut this thread down until there is an actual working version of this or at least more evidence that it is actually real. All we are getting is a fued between those who want to belive and those who think it's fake and that ain't going to end well.

 

[shutterbug2000]

*sigh* AND this is why I didn't want to go to sleep. Either way...

You want proof? Well I got it for you!

ROM file goes on sd card as game.nds

 

[hacksn5s4]

too bad this will run bad on old 3ds i only have old 3ds and i don't want to waste money on a new one just for this

 

[athemoe]

too bad this will run bad on old 3ds i only have old 3ds and i don't want to waste money on a new one just for this

Chill, it's a work in progress, not even close to a final stable version.

 

[shutterbug2000]

Whoops, I uploaded the wrong file xD(forgot to comment out some debug stuff )

There, same instructions as above

Also, it takes about a minute to init before the rom will run. So be patient before spamming please.

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Wait, how is that proof?

I uploaded the wrong file, check my next post.

 

[GalladeGuy]

-snip-

 

[MsMidnight]

All aboard the hype train