Feedback Hardware Others Does anyone else experience temp issues with AMD Phenom X4's?

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

Specifically, I plan on buying an AMD Phenom II X4 965 AM3 socket CPU, to go in a Pegatron M2N68-LA (Narra5) AM2 socket motherboard. I think it'll fit phsyically, but will it actually WORK is the question. I'd just keep using my AMD Phenom 9550, but the thing is, the first one had a dead temp sensor. So any time I would do anything, the fans would freak out. So I bought a SECOND Pheonom 9550. It somehow ALSO HAD THE SAME PROBLEM??? Do Phenom 9550's just have horribly bad temp sensors that just end up dead????

I just want my PC to perform well (for something from 10+ years ago...) without also being loud as shit. And NO, I can't just buy/build a wholly new PC. I don't have enough money for that, nor can I even do that with my current life circumstances. Please, just answer what I'm asking here.. I'm desperate..

 

[DinohScene]

Seems 955 is the max.
https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/M2N68-LA_(Narra3-GL8E).html

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

Seems 955 is the max.
https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/M2N68-LA_(Narra3-GL8E).html

Fucking hell. Where the fuck am I going to fin a good CPU for this board that *WON'T* either be a little single-core restaurant packet of weaksauce, or cause my PC to hyperventilate the moment I so much as open Windows Explorer?!

 

[DinohScene]

Get lucky or trade parts.

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

Get lucky or trade parts.

Sigh. This fucking sucks, but I guess I might as well rename the thread to "Does anyone else experience temp issues with AMD Phenom X4's?" so I can actually get a better look into it, see if I'm just not lucky or if this is a wide as fuck problem..

 

[DinohScene]

Done!

 

[tech3475]

Fucking hell. Where the fuck am I going to fin a good CPU for this board that *WON'T* either be a little single-core restaurant packet of weaksauce, or cause my PC to hyperventilate the moment I so much as open Windows Explorer?!

Without spending money, depending on your usage, maybe try Linux.

That said, if you're spending money to upgrade anyway, maybe look at old office computers which can go for relatively cheap and eBay occasionally does discount codes.

The bad temp sensor on both CPUs makes me wonder if something else is going on e.g. BIOS issues.

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

Without spending money, depending on your usage, maybe try Linux.

That said, if you're spending money to upgrade anyway, maybe look at old office computers which can go for relatively cheap and eBay occasionally does discount codes.

The bad temp sensor on both CPUs makes me wonder if something else is going on e.g. BIOS issues.

Nope, not a BIOS thing. Switched back to the stock AMD Sempron 140, single core weaksauce packet. No temp sensor issue at all. And I looked around in the BIOS menu, I can't really find anything that would be related *to* the issue? Been a while since I looked though. But the issue was def with the two Phenoms.

 

[tech3475]

Nope, not a BIOS thing. Switched back to the stock AMD Sempron 140, single core weaksauce packet. No temp sensor issue at all. And I looked around in the BIOS menu, I can't really find anything that would be related *to* the issue? Been a while since I looked though. But the issue was def with the two Phenoms.

I was thinking more like microcode/CPU firmware, especially if this motherboard is from an OEM system.

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

I was thinking more like microcode/CPU firmware, especially if this motherboard is from an OEM system.

Oh, yeah, it's an OEM. HP Pavilion Slimline. But how would that have anything to do with it if Ubuntu, when that boots, reports that the temp sensor is faulty and it'll ignore it..?

 

[Armadillo]

No issues with the x4 955 BE I used to have to. Ran overclocked for years with quite a voltage bump with no issues. It's now retired from that and living life in my dads pc at stock and has been for years. No issues at all, always been rock solid. Using on an am3 board.

If the board only supports up to a 955, just get that instead of the 965. The difference between them was 200mhz, the 965 was a waste of money over the 955 even when it was a current processor.

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

No issues with the x4 955 BE I used to have to. Ran overclocked for years with quite a voltage bump with no issues. It's now retired from that and living life in my dads pc at stock and has been for years. No issues at all, always been rock solid. Using on an am3 board.

If the board only supports up to a 955, just get that instead of the 965. The difference between them was 200mhz, the 965 was a waste of money over the 955 even when it was a current processor.

I have two 955's, both result in the weird "bad temp sensor in the CPU, so the fans have to be loud as shit any time I do anything" problem, while the stock CPU the machine came with years ago doesn't result in that. Everything else seems fine, I know my PSU is good enough, do 955's just have shit temp sensors or what?!

 

[Armadillo]

I have two 955's, both result in the weird "bad temp sensor in the CPU, so the fans have to be loud as shit any time I do anything" problem, while the stock CPU the machine came with years ago doesn't result in that. Everything else seems fine, I know my PSU is good enough, do 955's just have shit temp sensors or what?!

As far as I am aware no they do not have shit temp sensors. The one I have in service is fine and when they were current I never read anything about shit temp sensors.

Looking at the link dinoscene posted, the 955 is reported as "Works, but processor model is not recognized by BIOS", so I would guess it's a bios issue. I really doubt you have two 955s with busted sensors.

965 is basically the same cpu just clocked 200mhz higher. If there was an inherent problem with the temp sensors on a 955, going to a 965 wouldn't save you from it anyway.

 

[tech3475]

Oh, yeah, it's an OEM. HP Pavilion Slimline. But how would that have anything to do with it if Ubuntu, when that boots, reports that the temp sensor is faulty and it'll ignore it..?

Just had a quick look around and found this (granted it's old):
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222109

So you're not the only one with an AMD CPU to see this error when the CPUs seem fine.

Either way, I'm sceptical two CPUs are faulty.