1. Deleted User

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    There are warnings around the internet that you shouldn't use unencrypted public WiFi hotspots because your traffic is easy to intercept and evil twin attacks are a thing.

    Personally I don't see the danger in them. Most websites and apps on your phone already use encryption and an extra layer of encryption is unnecessary. They can see what websites you're viewing and what bank you use by logging your DNS requests. They can't see what you're doing on these websites* or see your bank balance.

    The real problem with public WiFi networks is privacy, not security. They track you using your MAC address and share your data with third parties. Most people can't or don't spoof their MAC addresses.

    * Not completely true. By analysing the type and quantity of traffic it can be possible to determine what you're doing.
     
  2. VinsCool

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    I don't mind public WIFI, I just avoid using stuff like bank app, where sensitive informations get transmitted. Better be safe than sorry.
     
  3. DBlaze

    DBlaze I don't know what i'm doing.
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    Not anymore, i generally use my the 4g/5g connection, most of the time still with VPN
    If I really don't have a choice and I must look something up right away, i'll only do so with a VPN running regardless
     
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  4. sarkwalvein

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    Yes, if I need it I use it (e.g. train, airport, etc.).
    I use VPN also.
     
  5. smileyhead

    smileyhead I like cute stuff.
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    I used public WiFi sometimes before, but it always was so slow and unusable I opted for mobile data instead, even though I felt a bit bad about it. Now, I have plenty enough data, so I don't even think about using public WiFi.
     
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  6. spotanjo3

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    I use public wifi for video game app and facebook and messenger.

    I don't and never used bank app. My bank offered me and I told her face to face that it was not safe and I prefer to come in person like an old fashion and tradition and I remain unchanged 1990 until now and that's 100 percent safe. She smiled and nob ok to me. :)
     
  7. Ryccardo

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    Rarely, there hardly ever is a good network around (ie without registration bullshit and/or reasonable performance)

    In fact when and where I "really needed one" (last week, as I only had 50 MB or so until the end of the month) there were no open networks around at all!

    I do my part and run an open network (as a public service and moral payback to the neighbor who had one that I used to play MKDS online), but being a residential area and somewhat far away from the street I doubt it's ever got any use :D
     
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    I never use free wifi, my phone's internet is perfectly fine and stable. I love my bank apps, apple pay and everything. I think they are approximately 100% safe: safe enough for me to use them on a daily basis. I also use google and gmail so lots of governments know everything about me anyways. Luckily I'm not that interesting...
     
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    Yes, I love it.
     
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    !00 percent safe ? You said you "think" in the sentence so you are still unsure. And "think" is not 100 percent.

    No, they are not 100 parent safe. Bank said that they never say its 100 percent safe. It could be hackable anyway because its technology hackable anyway. Sorry about my English.
     
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    I know it's not 100% safe, thats why I stated "approximately 100%". The systems in Holland are fairly secure, the most commonly used methods are easy to avoid: Just don't be stupid by giving your codes over the phone to a so called "bankemployee". I don't know anybody who's bankaccount was hacked and I know more than 100 people...
     
  12. FAST6191

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    No phone and don't tend to wander around with a laptop.

    That said yeah I will. I can reasonably see what goes for wifi. I will however avoid sending sensitive data up to and including browsing in porn mode for the duration (not to mention any wandering about technology is not my daily driver in general). Anything sensitive is SSL or not at all and if you can bypass my general security setup there then you deserve to get what I have (which is not a lot).
    Most of the time it is just to look up a quick fact, tell someone about an item or similar so I don't really care that some hacker out there can tell that I (in this case some anonymous internet guy) could not remember the name of a James Bond love interest, wanted to show a friend about a cool tech toy to get when they got home, or the name of a restaurant somewhere nearby.

    Most of the VPN adverts you see on all your favourite internet video makers ( https://sponsor.ajay.app/ helps dodge those and well worth knowing about in addition to baseline ad blocking software) are more for specific scenarios that are no longer that relevant (the thing that allowed the likes of firesheep to work have not applied since security protocols most devices no longer accept or will warn you about), unlikely to trouble you if you have even a modicum of tech sense and spend 5 minutes reading up on things, and 99% of the time anything truly sensitive will likely be going over SSL which is harder to do anything useful with. A VPN will help dodge many of those issues but most of the time the reasons to have one are to dodge letters because you are torrenting, because you want to access region locked content (be it because your country, company or the site hosting it plays accordingly) or you don't want the site you are visiting to know your IP address for whatever reason.

    Approximately 100% as in if the card gets stolen then it would have been
    a) From a bad site, that would have happened anyway even if I was sitting in a Mission Impossible style computer setup, down 7 proxies and 6 VPNs, and TOR.

    b) Because some light fingered shop assistant or fellow shopper hovered a camera phone over the thing when I got it out and got all the numbers to tap in later (sorry sir the computer says I need to check your ID/do you wish to sign up to our junk mail scheme getting the address).

    c) Someone I know lifting my wallet or maybe being pickpocketed.

    d) From malware on my computer. Public wifi or not is unlikely to cause this for me.

    The chances of some random public wifi either rooting my phone, man in the middle on my bank, hacking the app or breaking SSL traffic is miniscule.

    Even with all that then while it is annoying if it is a credit card that got pinged then you just phone up, say wasn't me, they say OK thanks for telling us we will sort that, and you going about your life.

    I generally pay cash for everything, usually get paid in cash and while my bank did send me a new fangled card with a wave the thing over the reader to pay there was an unfortunate accident later that night* so I no longer have that option.

    *it was horrible. The card was just sitting there on my anvil like it does. I was wandering around with a hammer and hole punch in my hand. Tripped and it all just happened, hole right through the card. Fortunately it was nowhere near the magnetic strip, chip for chip and pin, or various numbers and only took out the wire for the mag coil that ran around the outside to make the wave it over to pay.
     
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  13. duwen

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    Never needed to. Can't imagine that changing for me.
     
  14. m3inard

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    hell no! better use your data for security.
     
  15. dangopig

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    Only with a VPN!
     
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    I use only public wifi when I cant avoid them
     
  18. Deleted User

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    nope, i turn on mobile data when im outside, if im paying it i might as well use it
     
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