Do you think Pokémon is overestimated?

[Sterling]

yeah how about they remove the ability to delete a save all together. that way, no one can remove your hard work...
If they can't write about it in the manual, but they can write about other pointless and self explanatory stuff, then something is wrong.

I think you're over thinking this. If it doesn't say it in the manual (which it does in mine) then a simple google will help you fix your problem. It is definitely nothing wrong with the game. Don't forget, there are people who are still new to the series, and this other self-explanatory stuff is needed.

EDIT: oh yeah, if that first part was true, your pre-owned copy would be fucking useless.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

I think the word you're looking for is overrated.
They certainly are milking it a lot but it has had some great improvements on the DS and I'm looking forward to seeing it on the 3DS.
I'd like if they made bigger changes to it, but the improvements they have already made on the DS are enough to keep me interested.

But that's only counting the games, as it's pretty much commonly agreed upon that the show is slow, repetitive and boring. They could've done a lot more with it, but instead they just repeat the same formula of travelling and being interrupted by team rocket trying to ruin their day and failing every time. At least the movies are decent though. But that's not what the OP was talking about anyway.

 

[Rizsparky]

yeah how about they remove the ability to delete a save all together. that way, no one can remove your hard work...
If they can't write about it in the manual, but they can write about other pointless and self explanatory stuff, then something is wrong.

As for the 40/40 famitsu score. Ofcourse those scores are overrated alltogether.
But I decided I wanted to play thru every 40/40 game in the list, just for fun. Then I could make my own video reviews of the games, and give my point of view.

When my 100+ hour Pokemon Red save was deleted, I shat myself. A quick google usually remeides the problem if the deletion sequence isnt found in the manual anyway.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

If you delete an unwanted save (even after it warns you about it) by "accident" then you deserved that lost save file. The game double checks if you want to delete it.

I can't believe fans would want developers to take away a basic function because they're too hasty to actually read and make sure they're deleting their fucking file. Seriously, what is this.

 

[Sterling]

If you delete an unwanted save (even after it warns you about it) by "accident" then you deserved that lost save file. The game double checks if you want to delete it.

I can't believe fans would want developers to take away a basic function because they're too hasty to actually read and make sure they're deleting their fucking file. Seriously, what is this.

Umm, I'll agree with the first part, but my little brother doesn't (or didn't in this case) care if he deletes my saves. Same goes for people who are assholes or stole your cart. Also, developers did not take away a basic function, they just made it harder to perform.

 

[Rizsparky]

If you delete an unwanted save (even after it warns you about it) by "accident" then you deserved that lost save file. The game double checks if you want to delete it.

I can't believe fans would want developers to take away a basic function because they're too hasty to actually read and make sure they're deleting their fucking file. Seriously, what is this.

When a younger family member gets a hold of your handheld without your knowing and mashes the new game button there's not much someone can do...

 

[Guild McCommunist]

When a younger family member gets a hold of your handheld without your knowing and mashes the new game button there's not much someone can do...

I forgot that game development is affect by the first world problems of twelve year olds.

I just think cutting out replay value of a game (not to mention ALL resale value) because stupid kids can't learn to respect boundaries or protect their shit is quite honestly a bit stupid.

 

[Elrinth]

I think you're over thinking this. If it doesn't say it in the manual (which it does in mine) then a simple google will help you fix your problem. It is definitely nothing wrong with the game. Don't forget, there are people who are still new to the series, and this other self-explanatory stuff is needed.

EDIT: oh yeah, if that first part was true, your pre-owned copy would be fucking useless.

yeah page 14 in the bottom it does indeed say how to delete a game. but that still doesn't forgive the fact that you can start a new game, but during it, you can't save. so any progress will be lost. (it says so in the info text before you start a new game aswell).
Why even give the option to allow for new game if you can't save the progress in it? Why not just make a "Play demo" or something instead and throw the player straight into the action, instead of having to play thru the boring start..
I call that bad design. Tho obviously, I'm not going to rate the whole game over such a small nitpick I'll come back in a few weeks and give my personal opinion on the game.

 

[Sterling]

yeah page 14 in the bottom it does indeed say how to delete a game. but that still doesn't forgive the fact that you can start a new game, but during it, you can't save. so any progress will be lost. (it says so in the info text before you start a new game aswell).
Why even give the option to allow for new game if you can't save the progress in it? Why not just make a "Play demo" or something instead and throw the player straight into the action, instead of having to play thru the boring start..
I call that bad design.

You want to start a new game? Just make sure you have the button sequence before you start it up. You don't have to be in the middle of a game to delete the save. Jeez, if it's that big of a problem, I suggest finding a different game altogether. I don't want to say it's too complicated for you, but you really don't have any say in the matter. Just play the game and quit making such a big fuss over such a small thing. >.>

 

[Elrinth]

I definatly have say in the matter! As a gbatemp user and a consumer of one of the games in the series mentioned in the thread, I have the right to have an opinion!
I may not have finished the game or even played much of it, I can still build my own feelings towards the game based on the little I've tried.
So far, it feels like Pokémon is overrated. Here's what I got so far:
Very simplistic beginning, it doesn't matter which pokémon you choose, they are all the same level and they all have the same abilities. To win the matches in the beginning, you simply have to lower the defense first, then attack constantly. I'm guessing later it becomes more and more advanced, with evolving pokemon and the requirement to switch between pokemons in a fight. But it doesn't feel as tight as FF4,6,7,9. Atleast, not yet.
But my feelings can definatly change once I've played more of it.

 

[Sterling]

I definatly have say in the matter! As a gbatemp user and a consumer of one of the games in the series mentioned in the thread, I have the right to have an opinion!
I may not have finished the game or even played much of it, I can still build my own feelings towards the game based on the little I've tried.
So far, it feels like Pokémon is overrated, But my feelings can definatly change once I've played more of it.

I never implied otherwise. I just think that you're blowing such a small thing totally out of proportion. Sure it's harder to delete a save, but that's because supposed to be. Hopefully you'll judge the game on it's gameplay and not a technical difficulty.

 

[Deleted User]

I do believe that Pokemon needs a new story thats not based around a legendary, but the core gameplay should remain the same.
If you are a fan of the series you won't think Pokemon is overrated because if you love one of them, you love all of them. The same goes for other games such as call of duty, halo, madden, etc.
As for me, I have never regretted my purchases of "the same game" every year because I enjoy playing them.

 

[Latiken]

You never actually played Gen 1, did you.

I've played the ROMS some but never the physical game. I know of all the changes they have done so far (atleast now I do). I meant the whole consept. I've always enjoyed Pokemon games and I always will. But it would be really nice if they changed it slightly. Not the whole thing because then it would feel unpokemon like.

 

[Chary]

Pokemon isn't a "mash "A" fest" Sure, the plot is simple, and the story is lacking, but Pokemon can get pretty intense. For example, competitive battling requires perfect IV's, EV training, breeding for perfect natures, and to know all the different calculations that you need to raise a perfect Pokemon.

On the outside, Pokemon looks simple, but when you take the time to delve into it, you can see how complex the series really is.

 

[Deleted member 110780]

What they need to do is make a Pokemon game that's like Custom Robo. Each move is set to a button, and you can move around and jump/fly. I'm sick of the current battle system and I wish it was more like the show, where the trainer will be like "Dodge that attack, then use [insert move here]!"

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Pokemon isn't a "mash "A" fest" Sure, the plot is simple, and the story is lacking, but Pokemon can get pretty intense. For example, competitive battling requires perfect IV's, EV training, breeding for perfect natures, and to know all the different calculations that you need to raise a perfect Pokemon.

On the outside, Pokemon looks simple, but when you take the time to delve into it, you can see how complex the series really is.

Yeah because getting those IV's, EV training, and breeding is just so very exciting.

 

[Deleted User]

Yeah because getting those IV's, EV training, and breeding is just so very exciting.

It is. Especially when you have a beast of a pokemon.

 

[Hadrian]

You can quote to me the many changes and other stuff but the main game is pretty much the same only with more annoying shit added (as Guild stated) and to be honest you can just play the same way as in the first game because there is little to no challenge anyway.

I lost interest when the first DS game was pretty much the GBA games with changes that made it more tedious, I tried B&W for a few hours only to find it being even more tedious and repetitive than before and with the most uninteresting and uninspiring generic "new" set of Pokemon.

Not sure who is to blame, it seems to me that Nintendo themselves are more hands off with the core series, I think The Pokemon Company have more to do with what can be done with the franchise than Nintendo, Nintendo tend to throw in the odd dramatic change in some of their core series such as Mario 64, Majora's Mask, Metroid Prime, Mario Kart, Star Fox, Kirby but with Pokemon they haven't done that at all and just played it safe.

We'll see what Gamefreak does with the next gen but if they bleed the current "new" engine dry for another game I wouldn't be surprised and the sheep will eat it up regardless.

 

[Chary]

Yeah because getting those IV's, EV training, and breeding is just so very exciting.

Well, sure, but does grinding in any RPG tend to be fun? And it IS exciting to tear through opponents online, with a well trained Pokemon.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Well, sure, but does grinding in any RPG tend to be fun? And it IS exciting to tear through opponents online, with a well trained Pokemon.

I feel like the work vs. reward ratio here though is very, very disproportionate.