Do you think 9th gen will have slim revisions?

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Here's my reasoning: slim revisions come as a result of die shrinks due to better processes (example, early xbox 360 consoles were 90 nm, later ones 45nm) a die shrink allows for the same performance at lower power consumption, thus, less cooling is necessary and the device may be smaller, however, iirc both ps5 and xsx are 7 nm, that has been the absolute limit for a while (intel is even still stuck at 14 nm, with small exceptions) thus, i dont think we'll see slim revisions, or if we do, it will take a lot longer than normal, and the gains will not be as big (i dont really see them going to something like 3 nm, it would be too hard), the same sort of applies to the more powerful revisions, where the die shrink is used for better performance at the same power consumtion (as opposed to the same performance at lower power consumption), however, improvements would be possible if they increased die size with the same process, as a result, it would be more performance but with more power consumption
 
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By the time a slim revision would conceivably come out, TSMC should be easily cranking out 5nm chips no problem, since AMD's roadmap is expecting 5nm for consumer CPUs by around 2022 and you can probably expect a Slim version by like late 2023/early 2024 (at least, based on timings for last gen).

And while going from 7nm->5nm won't be a huge decrease in power draw/heat generation like last gens 28nm-16nm, it should still be enough that they can reduce the size of everything while still being able to keep things relatively cool. I think this is especially true given that the current cooling setup on both the PS5 and Sexbox are incredibly quiet (so far, anyways, suppose we still haven't seen anything really stress the hardware to the max). I actually think they could've easily scaled back the size of both consoles a little bit if they really wanted to in exchange for louder cooling, but I'd guess the complaints from last gen (especially on Sony's end) probably got to them a bit this time around.

Really the worst case is they come out with a "slim" revision that still uses 7nm and is nice and small (and hopefully not as ugly :lol:)!...but ends up being louder than the "phat" versions.
 
Switch needs DLSS as soon as possible......
Nintendo released a second revision and that's the most it's gonna get, I'd bet. The sequel is where they will *possibly* improve the hardware.

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According to that ps5 faq released by Sony, the ps5 runs cooler than the ps4.
Not surprised. PS4s ran like jets, even the Pro.
 
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I'm actually betting on waiting for revisions of the Sony PS5 to come out at cheaper price points until I adopt the latest generation. By then most of the bugs should be worked out and the hardware will be refined. I did the same with the PS3 and PS4.
 
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I would easily bet some money on it. Even the Switch got a "slim" revision :P I mean, which console DIDN't get a slim revision in the last few gens? IIRC only the Wii U but that was for obvious reasons.
the switch was because of a die shrink, the first one was 20 nm and the shrinked one (revised switch, switch lite and shield tv 2019) is 16 nm
 
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Nintendo released a second revision and that's the most it's gonna get, I'd bet. The sequel is where they will *possibly* improve the hardware.

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Not surprised. PS4s ran like jets, even the Pro.
we still havent seen any games that truly strain the systems though, the ps4 pro didnt run as hot on launch because of the overhead of most games targetting 100% utilization on ps4 base

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PS4 didn't get slimmer, it got fatter.
there was a slim revision released alongside the pro, idk how many people got it though
https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ps4-vs-ps4-slim/
 
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we still havent seen any games that truly strain the systems though, the ps4 pro didnt run as hot on launch because of the overhead of most games targetting 100% utilization on ps4 base

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there was a slim revision released alongside the pro, idk how many people got it though
https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ps4-vs-ps4-slim/
Oh, the PS4 Slim was just slim slightly enough so SONY could claim that it was.
 
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Oh, the PS4 Slim was just slim slightly enough so SONY could claim that it was.
The point of a slim console isn't just to be smaller in physical size, the main focus is the use of more efficient hardware. This lessens power draw and cooling requirements, which in turn allows them to make it smaller and quieter in most cases. The PS4 Slim was mostly the same size length/width wise, but it was something like 1/3 as tall, which is still a pretty big size change in terms of cooling capabilities.
 
The point of a slim console isn't just to be smaller in physical size, the main focus is the use of more efficient hardware. This lessens power draw and cooling requirements, which in turn allows them to make it smaller and quieter in most cases. The PS4 Slim was mostly the same size length/width wise, but it was something like 1/3 as tall, which is still a pretty big size change in terms of cooling capabilities.
Alright. I got that impression from PS2 Slim and PS3 Slim where they were actually smaller than the launch model.
 
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I think it's highly probabe since they even had a ps1 slim (named ps one from what I remember). I owned one after my original's disc drive bit the dust. I own a ps2 slim, ps3 slim, and ps4 phat. the ps5 is gigantic though, so I can't imagine there not being one in three or four years.
 
Console gaming is a myth and needs to die, hopefully sooner than later.

All electronic gaming is computer gaming, Nintendo & Sony computers just have bad compatibility.

That said Microsoft should be disbanded, key figures imprisoned or given capital punishment. Sony & Nintendo should transition their software to PC and continue to make portables, gadgets, toys & peripherals.
 
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Console gaming is a myth and needs to die, hopefully sooner than later.

All electronic gaming is computer gaming, Nintendo & Sony computers just have bad compatibility.

That said Microsoft should be disbanded, key figures imprisoned or given capital punishment. Sony & Nintendo should transition their software to PC and continue to make portables, gadgets, toys & peripherals.
i would be more up to the standardization of consoles, that way any manufacturer could join, and a compatibility card for those who already have a pc could be released
 
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