Do many people really HATE Apple that much?

[chris888222]

I have nothing against the company, just their fan club.

I have an iPhone myself, but am definitely not an Apple guy.

Now just throwing it out there, but hating a company because they make expensive products/ poor price-to-quality ratio is kind of silly. No one's forcing any of us to buy Apple products at gun point. It is ultimately our decision. If you buy Apple products based solely for the status symbol or due to peer pressure, then you've lost whatever respect you already had, and the fault is in you. Not the company.

It's like hating Ferrari for making expensive cars. I mean seriously, who cares?

Pretty much this. I find that hating a company for its prices is somewhat illogical unless it's a daily life necessity.

 

[Rydian]

I may be thinking way too much into this but i feel like Apple targets the less informed market intelligently.

Apple's marketing is some of the best in the industry, which is why when something they make flops, it's news.

 

[Xuphor]

I hate both Apple and the people who think Apple is great.

Apple is now, and has always been, EXTREMELY overpriced on literally everything they sell, and most of the people who think Apple is great relize this, they just don't care, say it's not true, or give some bullshit about how the Apple brand automatically makes it superior to any other brand.

This picture sums it up well, and is accurate:

They directly rip off their customers, not just by a small amount for their own profit (ala Nintendo), but by a HUGE amount that is completely uneeded. Apple could easy charge half of what they charge for ALL their products, and STILL make a very nice profit margin over what Nintendo makes for their products. How anyone can know this and not hate Apple is beyond me.

The only people who like Apple that I don't hate are people that buy a high-end (or low end, doesn't matter in this case) PC with Windows for significantly less then change it to a Mac. They aren't retarded.

 

[IBNobody]

I hate the company because Apple thinks it knows what I want better than I do.

I hate the company because Apple is too arrogant to admit their mistakes. ("You're holding it wrong.")

I hate the company because Apple has a significant markup on their computers.

I hate the company because it is "innovating" technology in areas I really don't like. I can't stand the whole tablet craze. It's just a big phone with poor game controls.

The only thing I like about Apple now is that I get to watch it decline into Microsoftian senility now that they no longer have Jobs to say "No" to bad designs.

 

[kthnxshwn]

This is honestly like watching a bunch of people eating turkey sandwiches describe their immense hatred for ham.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Nobody hates Apple. People do dislike their business practices and their [lack of] originality however.

 

[Xuphor]

Nobody hates Apple. People do dislike their business practices and their [lack of] originality however.

See me post on the previous page, I downright hate them. Any company with such insane customer-rip off practices deserves to be hated.

 

[Rydian]

See me post on the previous page, I downright hate them. Any company with such insane customer-rip off practices deserves to be hated.

Don't you use an alienware laptop?

 

[marcus134]

They ARE. As of this date, There are Zero (known) viruses for Mac OS X. Trojans abound, though.

LMAO

A program called "Elk Cloner" was the first personal computer virus to appear "in the wild"—that is, outside the single computer or lab where it was created.[15] Written in 1981 by Richard Skrenta, it attached itself to the Apple DOS 3.3 operating system

+ this: http://www.dailytech...px?newsid=24401 ( news about a recent malware infecting 600k macs ( April 2012)))

and this: http://www.dailytech...rticle21693.htm ( internal memo regarding malware infections and what to say to the customers (2011))

On a side note:
you make a difference between virus and trojan, but for 90% of the people, virus is just a broad term for malware. For the other 10%, the difference between trojan and virus is the self replicating ability of the program, as the results for the end user are the same (crash, data loss, key logger, stolen data, etc)


Extra reason to dislike apple, it's a closed platform both on the hardware and software side.

hardware side: create a monopoly in parts supply, apple can ask whatever price they want as there's no competition.​

no competition on the device themselves, apple make few device and you have to pay the price they want you to pay for it. (monopolistic behavior)​

software side: mac os isn't as closed as it used to be but still not as open as linux or windows for running home made programs or codes.​

ios is completely closed and you need to pay a lot of money to get your hand on a devkit, and if you want to share your program with other people, you need to get apple approval ( more $$) ( unless jailbreak off course)​

I'll also add the questionable use of Chinese labor and wave of suicide that have plagued Foxconn's factory assembling Apple's product.

 

[finkmac]

They ARE. As of this date, There are Zero (known) viruses for Mac OS X. Trojans abound, though.

LMAO

A program called "Elk Cloner" was the first personal computer virus to appear "in the wild"—that is, outside the single computer or lab where it was created.[15] Written in 1981 by Richard Skrenta, it attached itself to the Apple DOS 3.3 operating system

Yeah, for Apple II.

+ this: http://www.dailytech...px?newsid=24401 ( news about a recent malware infecting 600k macs ( April 2012)))

and this: http://www.dailytech...rticle21693.htm ( internal memo regarding malware infections and what to say to the customers (2011))

On a side note:
you make a difference between virus and trojan, but for 90% of the people, virus is just a broad term for malware. For the other 10%, the difference between trojan and virus is the self replicating ability of the program, as the results for the end user are the same (crash, data loss, key logger, stolen data, etc)

And Apple clearly states that Mac OS X isn't Virus-Proof on their website.

Extra reason to dislike apple, it's a closed platform both on the hardware and software side.

hardware side: create a monopoly in parts supply, apple can ask whatever price they want as there's no competition.​

no competition on the device themselves, apple make few device and you have to pay the price they want you to pay for it. (monopolistic behavior)​

0_o
How are they doing this again?

software side: mac os isn't as closed as it used to be but still not as open as linux or windows for running home made programs or codes.< Lolwut?​

ios is completely closed and you need to pay a lot of money to get your hand on a devkit, and if you want to share your program with other people, you need to get apple approval ( more $$) ( unless jailbreak off course)​

iOS devkit? IOS DEVKIT? LOL. iOS DevKit = Any Mac capable of running the iOS SDK. Distributing apps on the App Store = $90.



I'll also add the questionable use of Chinese labor and wave of suicide that have plagued Foxconn's factory assembling Apple's product.
Like virtually every electronics company.

 

[Rydian]

OP, remember when I said a lot of people who dislike it dislike it due to totally false information?

This thread is a shining example.

They ARE. As of this date, There are Zero (known) viruses for Mac OS X. Trojans abound, though.

Oh, I missed this? Yeah, totally incorrect. There's even Fake AVs out there.

 

[Zekrom_cool]

Apple tend to make stuff that is limited only to their brand, like their bluetooth and stuff. Thats why I hate it.

 

[kthnxshwn]

Their...bluetooth?

 

[ZAFDeltaForce]

Apple tend to make stuff that is limited only to their brand, like their bluetooth and stuff. Thats why I hate it.

Bluetooth is a proprietary open wireless technology standard for exchanging data over short distances (using short-wavelength radio transmissions in the ISM band from 2400–2480 MHz) from fixed and mobile devices, creating personal area networks (PANs) with high levels of security. Created by telecoms vendor Ericsson in 1994,

And... You hate Apple for making "stuff limited only to their brand"? What? You mean proprietary inputs, software and hardware?

Heads up mate, many companies do this. Sony for instance, came up with proprietary memory storage solutions like the Memory Stick Pro Duos and M2 memory sticks. And lets not forget that the GBA SP, DS Lite, and many little electronics use proprietary charger inputs.

 

[chris888222]

Apple tend to make stuff that is limited only to their brand, like their bluetooth and stuff. Thats why I hate it.

Bluetooth is a proprietary open wireless technology standard for exchanging data over short distances (using short-wavelength radio transmissions in the ISM band from 2400–2480 MHz) from fixed and mobile devices, creating personal area networks (PANs) with high levels of security. Created by telecoms vendor Ericsson in 1994,

And... You hate Apple for making "stuff limited only to their brand"? What? You mean proprietary inputs, software and hardware?

Heads up mate, many companies do this. Sony for instance, came up with proprietary memory storage solutions like the Memory Stick Pro Duos and M2 memory sticks. And lets not forget that the GBA SP, DS Lite, and many little electronics use proprietary charger inputs.

I believe he means unable to Bluetooth data send.

But yes. Properitary formats are everywhere, not just Apple alone.

 

[finkmac]

OP, remember when I said a lot of people who dislike it dislike it due to totally false information?

This thread is a shining example.

They ARE. As of this date, There are Zero (known) viruses for Mac OS X. Trojans abound, though.

Oh, I missed this? Yeah, totally incorrect. There's even Fake AVs out there.

Care to show me some of these Mac Viruses?


http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9400648&postcount=4


And the Mac Pro is outdated, It also uses "error correcting RAM"... Not exactly cheap.

 

[bailli]

Just stumbled over this topic...

http://www.h-online.com/news/item/Targeted-attacks-on-Mac-users-reported-1486906.html

[...] Care to show me some of these Mac Viruses? [...]

 

[kthnxshwn]

OP, remember when I said a lot of people who dislike it dislike it due to totally false information?

This thread is a shining example.

They ARE. As of this date, There are Zero (known) viruses for Mac OS X. Trojans abound, though.

Oh, I missed this? Yeah, totally incorrect. There's even Fake AVs out there.

Care to show me some of these Mac Viruses?


http://forums.macrum...648&postcount=4


And the Mac Pro is outdated, It also uses "error correcting RAM"... Not exactly cheap.

There are tons of Mac viruses. I'm pretty sure there's a trojan going around right now. The only difference is that since Apple collectively makes the hardware and the software, they can simply issue software updates. Windows could do this too, but they have so many iterations of their one OS (home, premiums, SP1, SP2 etc) that it becomes increasingly difficult.

 

[freaksloan]

I don't hate Apple, I just didn't fall for Steve Jobs Medicine Show.

Steve Jobs was nothing more than a Snake Oil salesmen.

Now Apple fanboys, I do hate them.

 

[finkmac]

Just stumbled over this topic...

http://www.h-online....ed-1486906.html

[...] Care to show me some of these Mac Viruses? [...]

There were no Viruses mentioned on that page.

A computer virus is a computer program that can replicate itself[1] and spread from one computer to another. The term "virus" is also commonly, but erroneously used, to refer to other types of malware, including but not limited to adware and spyware programs that do not have a reproductive ability.

Again, there is known Mac malware, but no known Viruses.