Do many people really HATE Apple that much?

[Hells Malice]

It's quite simple really:

• Overpriced for what you get - I guarantee you can build a machine equivalent to a Mac's spec for at least £300 less.
• The fact that they copyright everything. As Foxi said, they seem to think they can claim ownership to a black rectangle.
• Oversimplified OS. Fine for people who haven't a clue what they're doing, hell you could give a Mac to a 3 year-old, have him click randomly and you wouldn't have broken a thing. Only problem is for people who do know what they're doing is that you are extremely limited with what you can do with the technology. You can only do what Apple wants you to do.
• The way they state their Macs are 'virus free'. No, they've not. And they never will be. The only reason you don't get viruses is because people who want to infect your PC are going to go for the bigger audience (and thus more profit), i.e Windows.
• Stupid things like the 'genius bar'. I bet 90% of the people at them desks can't do a thing that requires more than pressing 'rest to default'.
• The way they act as if everything they invent is going to be the next big thing and push it onto every single user to ensure that it is.
• The way they manipulate 'normal' non-techy people into buying their products.
• Then having people who think they know things about tech going on about how the iPhone is superior to everything and how his Mac (that he payed £ridiculous for) is faster than my PC.

Preeetty much this.

Though really the only of those reasons I don't bother with iCrap is the price. You get a middle of the road product that has a gigantic price markup because it has a fucking apple on it. Awesome. Sign me up for that.
....yeah i'll go buy a product with the same capabilities for half the price.
The fans are just as annoying though. Diehards that just wont freakin' admit they paid twice as much as they needed to, just to get a status symbol. Nope, it's the best...that's why they got it.
Ugh.

 

[kiafazool]

It's quite simple really:

• Overpriced for what you get - I guarantee you can build a machine equivalent to a Mac's spec for at least £300 less. Yeah, you can BUILD a machine with equivalent SPECS
• The fact that they copyright everything. As Foxi said, they seem to think they can claim ownership to a black rectangle. Every company copyrights everything. I think you mean PATENT.
• Oversimplified OS. Fine for people who haven't a clue what they're doing, hell you could give a Mac to a 3 year-old, have him click randomly and you wouldn't have broken a thing. Only problem is for people who do know what they're doing is that you are extremely limited with what you can do with the technology. You can only do what Apple wants you to do. This again? Seriously? It's been over 30 years, and people keep saying this. I use Mac OS X and Windows. Mac OS X has a cleaner UI, while Windows is quite convoluted.
• The way they state their Macs are 'virus free'. No, they've not. And they never will be. The only reason you don't get viruses is because people who want to infect your PC are going to go for the bigger audience (and thus more profit), i.e Windows. They are Virus free. Malware, now that's a different story.
• Stupid things like the 'genius bar'. I bet 90% of the people at them desks can't do a thing that requires more than pressing 'rest to default'. I bet you haven't used a geniues bar. (disclaimer, I haven't.) Besides, it's meant for people who have no idea what they are doing.
• The way they act as if everything they invent is going to be the next big thing and push it onto every single user to ensure that it is. Which is better, acting like everything they "invent" is going to be a minor thing, or the next big thing?
• The way they manipulate 'normal' non-techy people into buying their products. Lolwut?
• Then having people who think they know things about tech going on about how the iPhone is superior to everything and how his Mac (that he payed £ridiculous for) is faster than my PC. That isn't Apple, that is someone that would probably do the same thing If he owned a Windows Phone.

Maybe this'll clear up what most people think about Apple: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple

What is this... I don't even...

i agree with u 100%

and plus i love android and windows phone 7 and i wish iOS had more customizability but its the factor of the quality.
i love the windows phone 7 ui but it lacks in features like support from developers.
android i like for the customizability but again there is a new phone every day with the same specs and in a few days it becomes old

and plus who ever said that they don't include flash in iOS, there is a reason that they don't include it. plus it is dead anyways for the same reason its not included in iOS

 

[Wizerzak]

It's quite simple really:

• Overpriced for what you get - I guarantee you can build a machine equivalent to a Mac's spec for at least £300 less. Yeah, you can BUILD a machine with equivalent SPECS
  I could also buy a pre-built PC for the same specs. It's just when you're clever enough to know how to buy a top-end PC you're generally clever enough to build it yourself.
• The fact that they copyright everything. As Foxi said, they seem to think they can claim ownership to a black rectangle. Every company copyrights everything. I think you mean PATENT.
  Fine patent. Sorry I'm not an expert in sueing people.
• Oversimplified OS. Fine for people who haven't a clue what they're doing, hell you could give a Mac to a 3 year-old, have him click randomly and you wouldn't have broken a thing. Only problem is for people who do know what they're doing is that you are extremely limited with what you can do with the technology. You can only do what Apple wants you to do. This again? Seriously? It's been over 30 years, and people keep saying this. I use Mac OS X and Windows. Mac OS X has a cleaner UI, while Windows is quite convoluted.
  Yes this again. And you know why 'again'? Because it's true. It happens as a result of having a 'cleaner UI' - you can't actually do any technical stuff.
• The way they state their Macs are 'virus free'. No, they've not. And they never will be. The only reason you don't get viruses is because people who want to infect your PC are going to go for the bigger audience (and thus more profit), i.e Windows. They are Virus free. Malware, now that's a different story.
  They are NOT virus free. Jeez, when ill you people learn. I bet you everything I own that someone could quite easily build a virus to attack a Mac, the only reason people don't is because no one cares about Macs. Hacking them wouldn't be profitable compared to Windows.
• Stupid things like the 'genius bar'. I bet 90% of the people at them desks can't do a thing that requires more than pressing 'rest to default'. I bet you haven't used a geniues bar. (disclaimer, I haven't.) Besides, it's meant for people who have no idea what they are doing.
  Exactly. It's the way they act as if every they do is superior to everything else - 'genius bar' is just an example of this. The people stood there are far from genii.
• The way they act as if everything they invent is going to be the next big thing and push it onto every single user to ensure that it is. Which is better, acting like everything they "invent" is going to be a minor thing, or the next big thing?
  Sorry, I missed a word. 'How they act as if everything HAS TO BE the next big thing'. Seriously, have you seen an apple product recently that failed? No, because their gullible, easily manipulated users (ie. the general public) will believe in anything they do. They could invent something really crap and everyone would still love it.
• The way they manipulate 'normal' non-techy people into buying their products. Lolwut?
  I'm assuming you've never watched a Mac advert.
• Then having people who think they know things about tech going on about how the iPhone is superior to everything and how his Mac (that he payed £ridiculous for) is faster than my PC. That isn't Apple, that is someone that would probably do the same thing If he owned a Windows Phone.
  I know that isn't Apple. I was on about their fans.

 

[finkmac]

It's quite simple really:

• Overpriced for what you get - I guarantee you can build a machine equivalent to a Mac's spec for at least £300 less. Yeah, you can BUILD a machine with equivalent SPECS
  
  I could also buy a pre-built PC for the same specs. It's just when you're clever enough to know how to buy a top-end PC you're generally clever enough to build it yourself. You missed the point, You are comparing a Ferrari to a Mining Dump truck. The dump truck is more powerful, of course
• The fact that they copyright everything. As Foxi said, they seem to think they can claim ownership to a black rectangle. Every company copyrights everything. I think you mean PATENT.
  
  
  Fine patent. Sorry I'm not an expert in sueing people.
• Oversimplified OS. Fine for people who haven't a clue what they're doing, hell you could give a Mac to a 3 year-old, have him click randomly and you wouldn't have broken a thing. Only problem is for people who do know what they're doing is that you are extremely limited with what you can do with the technology. You can only do what Apple wants you to do. This again? Seriously? It's been over 30 years, and people keep saying this. I use Mac OS X and Windows. Mac OS X has a cleaner UI, while Windows is quite convoluted.
  
  
  Yes this again. And you know why 'again'? Because it's true. It happens as a result of having a 'cleaner UI' - you can't actually do any technical stuff. Define "technical stuff". Besides, If you really want to get technical, You open up a "Terminal". I use Mac OS X AND Windows 7, I'm even posting this from Windows. Anyway, just because something is easy to uses doesn't mean it's oversimplified...
• The way they state their Macs are 'virus free'. No, they've not. And they never will be. The only reason you don't get viruses is because people who want to infect your PC are going to go for the bigger audience (and thus more profit), i.e Windows. They are Virus free. Malware, now that's a different story.
  
  
  They are NOT virus free. Jeez, when ill you people learn. I bet you everything I own that someone could quite easily build a virus to attack a Mac, the only reason people don't is because no one cares about Macs. Hacking them wouldn't be profitable compared to Windows. They ARE. As of this date, There are Zero (known) viruses for Mac OS X. Trojans abound, though.
• Stupid things like the 'genius bar'. I bet 90% of the people at them desks can't do a thing that requires more than pressing 'rest to default'. I bet you haven't used a geniues bar. (disclaimer, I haven't.) Besides, it's meant for people who have no idea what they are doing.
  
  
  Exactly. It's the way they act as if every they do is superior to everything else - 'genius bar' is just an example of this. The people stood there are far from genii. Trained to help people with zero knowledge.
• The way they act as if everything they invent is going to be the next big thing and push it onto every single user to ensure that it is. Which is better, acting like everything they "invent" is going to be a minor thing, or the next big thing?
  
  
  Sorry, I missed a word. 'How they act as if everything HAS TO BE the next big thing'. Seriously, have you seen an apple product recently that failed? No, because their gullible, easily manipulated users (ie. the general public) will believe in anything they do. They could invent something really crap and everyone would still love it. Apple TV and early MacBook Airs... Not successes.
• The way they manipulate 'normal' non-techy people into buying their products. Lolwut?
  
  
  I'm assuming you've never watched a Mac advert. Well, duh... Doesn't every company have brainwashing ads?
• Then having people who think they know things about tech going on about how the iPhone is superior to everything and how his Mac (that he payed £ridiculous for) is faster than my PC. That isn't Apple, that is someone that would probably do the same thing If he owned a Windows Phone.
  
  
  I know that isn't Apple. I was on about their fans. Fanboys. They exist for every product.

 

[chris888222]

Maybe this'll clear up what most people think about Apple: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple

What is this... I don't even...

I guess SOME people just don't understand how painful it is for others to OWN an Apple product...

The comic is true in certain ways, but a bit far-fetched. Not everyone on the street will change to a 4G and Apple only announces a product once a year. Not everyday.

The comic also shows selling everything in your house to get a new product, which emphasizes in how expensive their products are. This part is really funny, but sadly kinda true.

But in the end, you are not forced to buy Apple products, you are not forced to be kept within Apple's chains. They don't force you to anything if you choose not to buy their products.

Oh and I found this: http://www.pcworld.com/article/202613/5_reasons_why_people_hate_apple.html

 

[elgarta]

Lots of people do, but the "Fanboyz" or fans of apple products likely outweigh them.

Me, I personally dislike their business model more than anything. It seems like they gouge alot of money from people who just can't live without those small extra features on their device by releasing new revisions of the same thing.. Sorry, but the 4s? Really? Many business' are doing it, don't get me wrong (DS/Lite/i/XL + PSP 1000-3000, PSP go) but it just seems like Apple does it more since it is always in your face whether its through the media. the stock in a store when shopping or just because everyone else is going on about it like it is the new big thing.

Android is good and all, but I think some people need to remember that what you are actually buying is a different companies phone, not one from Android directly. So it is quite different and a bit harder to be pinned as an 'Android fanboy' since many variations of hardware exist, all done by different companies. Apple only does Apple, and nobody else makes iPhones or iPads. I don't have a favorite out of the iOS or Android OS, they both work and basically do the same thing.

Edit: Clarified some text

 

[Fellow]

People tend to hate Apple's fans, not particularly Apple.

 

[kthnxshwn]

This thread is hilarious.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

The more fan boys, the more hate.

 

[Etheboss]

This is why ppl hate apple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAdu6GHV3tQ

 

[gamefan5]

Meh... I don't hate Apple 'cause it has never done anything bad to me... yet! XD

Spoiler

I'm neutral. Never bought any Apple products... probably never will.
Although, I hate Imac. (personal experience).
Sometimes I'm pretty sure that most people (I SAID MOST) hate apple because of mob mentality. XD

 

[Jan1tor]

I've used PCs, Amigas, Atari, Commodore, and yes Apple. I hate Apple products the most. I just don't like their architecture and how they opperate. I don't like the handicapped one button mouse, I don't like their hard drive. I don't like their networking, nor their operating interface. It just seems like one big pain in the ass compared to the PC marketplace. And it seems like things work better with the PC market.
And there is a ton more software for the PC market as well. But that is just my opinion.

 

[slaysme]

I can't really advocate macs, and iPhones are overrated, and truly the long term expensive product.........but man I love my iPad. Had one from the get go, wife got a 2 last year. We've switched now, because I use the extra power more than her, and screw y'all haters. It's awesome. Browsing, reading, comics, this thing is perfect. However, it's gotta be jail broken, with emulators and wiimote support...and I understand why it's not useful, or grossly overpriced. To some people. I've still yet to use a smother tablet, though. And there's no rush to get the newest one. Maybe the next one, maybe a different device.

Btw, a used iPod touch from Craigslist started us on iOS, before that I hated apples iPods and other overpriced junk. Got it for e wife one valentines day, got another a week later.

For reference, I also have a vita and 3ds, which I use more for gaming. Vita is awesome. I love gaming. And words.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

I think it was summed up perfectly before but for me its that so called status symbol that comes with having a apple product. I mean you can have a 3DS or a Vita out and people would think your a kid or a geek or something but have an apple product then automatically your awesome, also they're bloody restrictive and controlling over their products and a simple example is itunes and how controlling that is,.

 

[Ziggy Zigzagoon]

I call security issues that Apple has, though I see the Apple hate little more than an operating-system version of the console wars (Microsoft vs. Nintendoo vs. Sony or Nintendoo vs. Sega vs. Hudson).

 

[Luigi2012SM64DS]

i don't "hate" apple products. just their apps section and price

 

[Deleted User]

I hate them because they overprice, their products are not worth the quality to money.

 

[The Catboy]

I never cared for Apple products, they cost way too much and really don't do much to impress me.
Not to say they are bad products, they just aren't what I am looking for and I lack the money to buy them.

 

[ZAFDeltaForce]

I have nothing against the company, just their fan club.

I have an iPhone myself, but am definitely not an Apple guy.

Now just throwing it out there, but hating a company because they make expensive products/ poor price-to-quality ratio is kind of silly. No one's forcing any of us to buy Apple products at gun point. It is ultimately our decision. If you buy Apple products based solely for the status symbol or due to peer pressure, then you've lost whatever respect you already had, and the fault is in you. Not the company.

It's like hating Ferrari for making expensive cars. I mean seriously, who cares?

 

[BORTZ]

I think alot us here who know more than the average bear can see through Apple ploys and silly gimmicks that they snare the general public with.
-Apple comes off as pretentious and arrogent if you ask me, because they hype their own stuff so much, then gloss over the technical details, giving them names that a layman to technology can fap to. "retinal display screen" "Siri" "Duel core" and other things.

I may be thinking way too much into this but i feel like Apple targets the less informed market intelligently. By NOT bombarding them with tons of super technical specs that grandma cant understand, they tell it like it is... kinda. Then make a killing off of the sheep they slaughter with their overpriced goods.

Then there are those of us (me) who understand what they really are offering and can decide if its worth it or not.