Differents between NTSC and PAL

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  1. Taisukai
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    Is there a difference between PAL and NTSC? cause when i start NTSC games it isn't starting
     
  2. Clarky

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    there is a difference yes....ntsc is the american tv signal and pal is for europe...ntsc tends to run at faster rates while pal tend to be a higher resolution....but what region is your wii?
     
  3. Creqaw

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    His wii is European.
     
  4. Clarky

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    suppose thats a start, how are you booting the ntsc games then? usb loader? dvd? i would assume the reason its not working is tv cannot handle the ntsc signal or that he needs to use a compentent cable with his wii
     
  5. Taisukai
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    starting with usbloader
     
  6. chris888222

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    I believe NTSC and PAL has got to do with frequency (if I'm not wrong). American frequency is at 60 Hz, Europe/Australia at 50 Hz.
     
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    the problem is that i can't play NTSC games but i got Region free wii games enabled
     
  8. Blue-K

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    USB-Loaders are always Region-Free. You probably just have to force the correct video mode from the settings of your loader and it will work. Just toy around with them. If that doesn't work, force a correct language. Oh, and: This probably depends on the TV too, NTSC-Games play fine here (PAL Wii), without the need to force anything, I just use the default mode from the game and it works.

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  9. WiiPower

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    NTSC game? Force video mode disc or NTSC.

    There's also PAL60 for 98% of PAL games, which makes the video mode almost identical with the NTSC one. The colors are said to be different, but since i'm a man, i wouldn't notice when seeing both next to each other.
     
  10. PsyBlade

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    more importantly the colour encoding is different
    if your display can't decode it it will be greyscale
    but most newer ones can handle it
     
  11. Hielkenator

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    Progressive scan is the same in both regions.
    So if you are running games in PS, it's te same.
    All lcd tv can handle PS.
     
  12. Clarky

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    just a curious thought, you have not your wii set on that 560i or something have you?
     
  13. nl255

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    PAL games often run slower and have distorted music due to the fact that they run at 50fps instead of 60 (and it is the screen refresh rate that apparently determines game execution speed). If you don't believe me, set a PS1 game to run at 90fps in an emulator and watch the game run much faster than normal.
     
  14. Hielkenator

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    This does'nt apply to game that run progressive.

    50/ 60 hz is from days long gone.
    For some reason Wii games sometimes only have to 50 hz option.
    It's really ONLY of use if you have an older tv.

    Also a lot of PAL region VC games run at 50 hz.
    Lcd tv's acctually have to do MORE work in order to display these games properly, becuase they will run at 50 hz.

    If you have a ntsc game that is progressive and a PAL game that is progressive, there's no ifference anymore.
    LCD tv's display images progressively natively ( using component cables is essential for Wii ).
    Progressive scan is ALWAYS 60 hz.
     
  15. Taisukai
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    what is 560i?
     
  16. smf

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    Yes, if you have a component cable and set the wii to use 480p then most ntsc/pal games will run without doing anything special no matter what type of console you have.
    Some games don't like progressive though, so it's always easier to get your games from your own region.
     
  17. Fishaman P

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    That refers to screen resolution, i.e. the number of pixels on the screen.
    Those particular terms are derived from the number of rows of pixels, i.e. how many high.

    p means progressive scan, while i stands for interlaced.

    480i is normal for NTSC, while it's 480p with Component cables.

    560i (or actually 576i I think) is what PAL uses.
    The bandwidth saved by reducing the frequency from 60Hz to 50Hz is used to increase the resolution.

    While I'm not absolutely sure about this, most PAL TV's support all NTSC quirks like 60Hz and 480p/i, but NTSC TV's are stuck-up and don't support anything PAL.