Hacking custom IOS release

[JPH]

I have reason to believe this is copyrighted material...can someone confirm?

 

[marcan]

It's so bad that I could easily write a (legal) installer that, given his patcher, installs his custom IOS37 without actually requiring the original IOS37. He changed the title key and produced a patch for the resulting wad. Since the title key changed, the encrypted data now looks different, and the patch patches out EVERYTHING. His patcher contains the entirety of IOS37. Even without the title key mod, it still would contain a large amount of Nintendo code because everything AFTER his patches would encrypt differently (as that is how CBC encryption works) and still be included.

This thing is just as illegal as distributing the original IOS37, or even more (since the code here is patched).

 

[linkinworm]

It's so bad that I could easily write a (legal) installer that, given his patcher, installs his custom IOS37 without actually requiring the original IOS37. He changed the title key and produced a patch for the resulting wad. Since the title key changed, the encrypted data now looks different, and the patch patches out EVERYTHING. His patcher contains the entirety of IOS37. Even without the title key mod, it still would contain a large amount of Nintendo code because everything AFTER his patches would encrypt differently (as that is how CBC encryption works) and still be included.

This thing is just as illegal as distributing the original IOS37, or even more (since the code here is patched).

oooo thats bad news, after i installed it i have yet to see what change it has made tbh, so i guess you wont be taking it into the patchMii?

 

[marcan]

PatchMii already contained the patches that Waninkoko used for his IOS before he did. They are the signing disable patch, and the dvd unencrypted read restriction disable patch. Except we do it by patching decrypted data, and download the originals from the internet automatically, which is completely legal.

 

[linuxares]

marcan, sounds nice =)

 

[Trolly]

They are the signing disable patch, and the dvd unencrypted read restriction disable patch.

*Has a fit of excitement* So we will be able to read stuff off DVD-Rs in some form on unmodded Wiis? I assume that's what it means anyway. Oh, and thanks for introducing some information to this chaos, I've been extremely confused by the whole thing.
This opens a lot of doors, so thanks Marcan.

And I think the suggestion from his post is to avoid using this custom IOS release from Waninkoko as it's illegal (and besides that, difficult to obtain anyway). Just wait for PatchMii people.

 

[arctic_flame]

They are the signing disable patch, and the dvd unencrypted read restriction disable patch.

*Has a fit of excitement* So we will be able to read stuff off DVD-Rs in some form on unmodded Wiis?

No. Calm down again

 

[Trolly]

No. Calm down again

Okay, lol.
But what does it mean? Modded Wiis can already read off DVD-Rs can't they? So I don't see the benefit. Besides, modding is illegal

, so why would Bushing, Marcan and Co. support it.

Oh, and I guess the signing disable patch means the trucha bug is exploitable again (or totally ignorable)? So region-freeness for modded Wiis still? Stop me if I'm going wrong again.

 

[linkinworm]

No. Calm down again

Okay, lol.
But what does it mean? Modded Wiis can already read off DVD-Rs can't they? So I don't see the benefit. Besides, modding is illegal

, so why would Bushing, Marcan and Co. support it.

they dont, i think they want to release something that can boot modified disks like a recovory disk, or linux disk, without the need for a modchip. not for backups, if that was the case they could probs modify there patched IOS to read off an elf on a burned disk, but still keep it so that burned wii games wont work.

 

[skawo96]

No. Calm down again

Okay, lol.
But what does it mean? Modded Wiis can already read off DVD-Rs can't they? So I don't see the benefit. Besides, modding is illegal

, so why would Bushing, Marcan and Co. support it.

If everyone without a modchip will be able to read backups, Nintendo will be ekhm...very angry and will be trying to stop homebrew, homebrew channel, TP hack and so on (thay started to do it, but not that good as they would). Now, if you have a modchip you void the varranty, so if your wii broke, your screwed and you have to practically buy ba new wii, what can refund the games you pirated. A custom IOS that you can uninstall then ...y' know...They will try their best to stop it. They can even do the worst things like bricking machines with IOSxxx, because a customization like this would just shorten lifespan of the Wii, and a few da best titles like "Horzez" would stop coming for Wii, because NO ONE would buy them.

Bushing supports modchips, because he wants Nintendo to "go away" from his project of homebrew and get their Horzez on pirates.

 

[warfab]

Does anyone know the crc-32 hash of "IOS37-64-v2070.wad"?

 

[Trolly]

they dont, i think they want to release something that can boot modified disks like a recovory disk, or linux disk, without the need for a modchip. not for backups, if that was the case they could probs modify there patched IOS to read off an elf on a burned disk, but still keep it so that burned wii games wont work.

Wait, you've confused me more. Are you sure what you're saying is correct?

Can someone once and for all clarify exactly what Marcan said means for Wiis?

 

[arctic_flame]

No. Calm down again

Okay, lol.
But what does it mean? Modded Wiis can already read off DVD-Rs can't they? So I don't see the benefit. Besides, modding is illegal

, so why would Bushing, Marcan and Co. support it.

they dont, i think they want to release something that can boot modified disks like a recovory disk, or linux disk, without the need for a modchip. not for backups, if that was the case they could probs modify there patched IOS to read off an elf on a burned disk, but still keep it so that burned wii games wont work.

Modded Wiis cannot read "normal" DVDs, only Wii games (burnt or otherwise). The drive itself rejects the disc on an unmodded wii.

 

[Hammi]

If everyone without a modchip will be able to read backups, Nintendo will be ekhm...very angry and will be trying to stop homebrew, homebrew channel, TP hack and so on (thay started to do it, but not that good as they would). Now, if you have a modchip you void the varranty, so if your wii broke, your screwed and you have to practically buy ba new wii, what can refund the games you pirated. A custom IOS that you can uninstall then ...y' know...They will try their best to stop it. They can even do the worst things like bricking machines with IOSxxx, because a customization like this would just shorten lifespan of the Wii, and a few da best titles like "Horzez" would stop coming for Wii, because NO ONE would buy them.

Dude, are you sure you thought this through? Do you really think that the target audience for "Horzez" would softmod their wii? I honestly don't think they even know something like that is possible.

 

[linkinworm]

No. Calm down again

Okay, lol.
But what does it mean? Modded Wiis can already read off DVD-Rs can't they? So I don't see the benefit. Besides, modding is illegal

, so why would Bushing, Marcan and Co. support it.

they dont, i think they want to release something that can boot modified disks like a recovory disk, or linux disk, without the need for a modchip. not for backups, if that was the case they could probs modify there patched IOS to read off an elf on a burned disk, but still keep it so that burned wii games wont work.

Modded Wiis cannot read "normal" DVDs, only Wii games (burnt or otherwise). The drive itself rejects the disc on an unmodded wii.

well we will see wont we, because the wii can read other formats other than the wii, GC games for example, and VC games that are on disks, umm with old homebrew for GC you could boot GCOS disks not a wii game.

 

[skawo96]

If everyone without a modchip will be able to read backups, Nintendo will be ekhm...very angry and will be trying to stop homebrew, homebrew channel, TP hack and so on (thay started to do it, but not that good as they would). Now, if you have a modchip you void the varranty, so if your wii broke, your screwed and you have to practically buy ba new wii, what can refund the games you pirated. A custom IOS that you can uninstall then ...y' know...They will try their best to stop it. They can even do the worst things like bricking machines with IOSxxx, because a customization like this would just shorten lifespan of the Wii, and a few da best titles like "Horzez" would stop coming for Wii, because NO ONE would buy them.

Dude, are you sure you thought this through? Do you really think that the target audience for "Horzez" would softmod their wii? I honestly don't think they even know something like that is possible.

Lol, it was a joke and an example, dude. I'm saying that these companies making games like these may stop making games for wii, because who would buy a game like this...just run custom ios, download, burn, play. And you void no warranty. So, if companies would stop making games for wii, wii would have shorter lifespan - remember Dreamcast? Piracy ATE it! No games were made for it, 'cause nobody had bought them when you just downloaded iso and burned it on CD.

 

[Kairi]

Several sites are saying that’s its been confirmed that with the patched IOS and modified gensplus that it is indeed loading roms from the dvd drive on non modded wii's. I installed it and had no luck but i know my dvd burner is in need or replacing and is very dodgy at the moment can anyone confirm that it does or does not work on unmodded wii's?

 

[Prime]

is there a list of some sorts which explains what this firmware lets you do?

 

[Trolly]

Modded Wiis cannot read "normal" DVDs, only Wii games (burnt or otherwise).

I thought you could install WADs already?
I'll be back when this has all been sorted out properly or when PatchMii is out. I guess all will become clear then.

 

[linkinworm]

If everyone without a modchip will be able to read backups, Nintendo will be ekhm...very angry and will be trying to stop homebrew, homebrew channel, TP hack and so on (thay started to do it, but not that good as they would). Now, if you have a modchip you void the varranty, so if your wii broke, your screwed and you have to practically buy ba new wii, what can refund the games you pirated. A custom IOS that you can uninstall then ...y' know...They will try their best to stop it. They can even do the worst things like bricking machines with IOSxxx, because a customization like this would just shorten lifespan of the Wii, and a few da best titles like "Horzez" would stop coming for Wii, because NO ONE would buy them.

Dude, are you sure you thought this through? Do you really think that the target audience for "Horzez" would softmod their wii? I honestly don't think they even know something like that is possible.

Lol, it was a joke and an example, dude. I'm saying that these companies making games like these may stop making games for wii, because who would buy a game like this...just run custom ios, download, burn, play. And you void no warranty. So, if companies would stop making games for wii, wii would have shorter lifespan - remember Dreamcast? Piracy ATE it! No games were made for it, 'cause nobody had bought them when you just downloaded iso and burned it on CD.

there still makeing dreamcast game in japan.