Ok I have used almost every application on the face of the earth. To start it off I got Gator's GC backup booter. and the MIOS patcher. I got the -1017 error. Tried a few more patchers for CIOS... Failure exact same -1017. On another note when I enter anytiledeleter I get THE SAME -1017 error. I got both version 1.0 and 1.1 of wanenkoko (I forget the name) CIOS uninstaller. both of them said that there were no custom IOS's on the wii. I have the latest version of the Wii (4.1u correct?) and everything thus far has worked except installing a CIOS. Anybody care to sk00l the n00b? I will be checking this often for answers so you can ask me details such as what other programs I used. Thanks a million times in advance!