Hacking Cheapest PS3 "Jailbreak"

[Rydian]

Pretty much nothing is updateable due to a shortage of user-programmable chips, seems everybody changed over.

 

[overlord00]

i hear that it may be possible to upgrade some of the clones through software DFU mode... is this even possible?

Should I/we wait for the next revision of groove that may be compatible with the 3.50 firmware? or just hope for the best?

 

[doyama]

i hear that it may be possible to upgrade some of the clones through software DFU mode... is this even possible?

Should I/we wait for the next revision of groove that may be compatible with the 3.50 firmware? or just hope for the best?

It really depends. A few of the jailbreak devices being released are using unprogrammable PIC devices due to the Amtel shortages.

 

[ocdetective]

Pretty much nothing is updateable due to a shortage of user-programmable chips, seems everybody changed over.

Is it 100% certain that there is a shortage of these ATMEL chips or is it anecdotal at present? What is the source of the information?

 

[elmoreas]

All the clones us PIC chips and atmels are all gone, end of story, at least for a while. So unless you got a real PS3JB it is a pic chip and is not upgradable regardless of who made it or where it came from. If you got a real ps3jb good for you and you can upgrade as they are atmel but as far as I know not many made it out then again there are no upgrades as of yet so its a moot point. ON THE OTHER HAND... You can use devices like the TI-84+ and b-up enabled psgroove for 3.41 and install a new pkg file when or if a version comes out for 3.50 but its not cheap and may be hard to find ATM. Then again you have no issues with the problem of a device being intended for CR circumvention when you use a calc vs a ps3jb but thats up to you.

 

[Joe88]

the ps3key and ps3key clones are using atmel chips

 

[ocdetective]

All the clones us PIC chips and atmels are all gone, end of story, at least for a while. So unless you got a real PS3JB it is a pic chip and is not upgradable regardless of who made it or where it came from. If you got a real ps3jb good for you and you can upgrade as they are atmel but as far as I know not many made it out then again there are no upgrades as of yet so its a moot point. ON THE OTHER HAND... You can use devices like the TI-84+ and b-up enabled psgroove for 3.41 and install a new pkg file when or if a version comes out for 3.50 but its not cheap and may be hard to find ATM. Then again you have no issues with the problem of a device being intended for CR circumvention when you use a calc vs a ps3jb but thats up to you.

Again where is the source of this information coming from? Saying it doesn't make it so.

Can you provide concrete links where people have opened up clones not just of PS3JB but also PS3Key and PS3YES etc and shown them to be PIC chips or again is this purely anecdotal and simply spreads like wildfire across the internet? I ask because I have a PS3key clone arriving soon and based on the size of it (same as original) it would appear that it could not contain the longer rectangular PIC chip.
I am not saying it is not true just that I would prefer more concrete evidence of the fact.
Also where does the "fact" that ATMEL chips are reflashable whilst PIC ones are not stem from?
These questions are not necessarily directed at you but for others to answer too.
One other thing of note the genuine PS3JBs seem to contain both ATMEL and PICs (look on their website under the Truth Inquiry which shows the difference between real and clones) and the genuine PS3JB shows a PIC chip!

http://www.ps3break.com/Truth.asp

Double Edit - Seems like a different PIC chip upon closer inspection but this one is certainly upgradeable
http://psx-scene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65391

 

[Sledge1]

Or use your iphone/dingoo to do it

 

[overlord00]

if you suggest iphone... links (to binaries, source, etc) are needed.... to my knowledge, no such port exists.

 

[ocdetective]

if you suggest iphone... links (to binaries, source, etc) are needed.... to my knowledge, no such port exists.

Not looking hard enough - although not universally available across all versions.
http://wiki.psfreedom.com/wiki/IPhoneLinux

 

[overlord00]

just saying... thanks for the info.
also, not very definitive... only for certain iphone/touch revisions on certain JB firmware.

 

[Rydian]

also, not very definitive... only for certain iphone/touch revisions on certain JB firmware.
QUOTE(ocdetective @ Sep 24 2010, 02:25 AM) although not universally available across all versions.

 

[Sacohen9665]

Maybe making your own is cheaper?You might already have something that can or you can buy the teensy++ board for $24.

Wouldn't makeing your own with a teensy board or Blackcat be better, becasue it will be updateable.

Just get a new hex code and flash it again, once the hex code has been updated.

Correct?

 

[Rydian]

Yes.

In fact I suggest it because the homemade ones can do more now.

 

[doyama]

All the clones us PIC chips and atmels are all gone, end of story, at least for a while. So unless you got a real PS3JB it is a pic chip and is not upgradable regardless of who made it or where it came from. If you got a real ps3jb good for you and you can upgrade as they are atmel but as far as I know not many made it out then again there are no upgrades as of yet so its a moot point. ON THE OTHER HAND... You can use devices like the TI-84+ and b-up enabled psgroove for 3.41 and install a new pkg file when or if a version comes out for 3.50 but its not cheap and may be hard to find ATM. Then again you have no issues with the problem of a device being intended for CR circumvention when you use a calc vs a ps3jb but thats up to you.

Again where is the source of this information coming from? Saying it doesn't make it so.

Can you provide concrete links where people have opened up clones not just of PS3JB but also PS3Key and PS3YES etc and shown them to be PIC chips or again is this purely anecdotal and simply spreads like wildfire across the internet? I ask because I have a PS3key clone arriving soon and based on the size of it (same as original) it would appear that it could not contain the longer rectangular PIC chip.
I am not saying it is not true just that I would prefer more concrete evidence of the fact.
Also where does the "fact" that ATMEL chips are reflashable whilst PIC ones are not stem from?
These questions are not necessarily directed at you but for others to answer too.
One other thing of note the genuine PS3JBs seem to contain both ATMEL and PICs (look on their website under the Truth Inquiry which shows the difference between real and clones) and the genuine PS3JB shows a PIC chip!

http://www.ps3break.com/Truth.asp

Double Edit - Seems like a different PIC chip upon closer inspection but this one is certainly upgradeable
http://psx-scene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65391

All the dev boards like the BlackCat and Teensy use Amtel chips. Their stock was depleted within days of the release, and restocking has been slow for them specifically because Amtel chips have been bought up by almost everyone to make the clones. PIC based ones popped up later because of the Amtel shortage and the PSGroove working on PIC based boards.

 

[MakiManPR]

i BOUGHT this one

http://www.digimartz.com/buy-usbbreak-for-ps3_p708.html

USBBREAK it looks updatable and the website say it too

and it can be flashed for PSGROOVE too

 

[Sacohen9665]

i BOUGHT this one

http://www.digimartz.com/buy-usbbreak-for-ps3_p708.html

USBBREAK it looks updatable and the website say it too

and it can be flashed for PSGROOVE too

Where does it say it is upgradable?

There is a link to the PS3Break. When you read the info about the PS3Breeak it says it is updatable, but I didn't see anything about the USBbreak being updateable.

Maybe I missed it.

 

[MakiManPR]

NOPE ITS NOT uPDATABLE

I send an e-mail to them so I failed

Dear Customer:
First of all. thanks your feedback and your support !
It can not support upgrade now !

B,rgds!

Nikita

 

[Norkusa]

Just saw this one for $21.57 with free ship + tracking:

http://www.volumerates.com/product/version...-and-slim-91769

Version 1.1. They say it's updatable too but I'm guessing they've got their info wrong like most sellers.

 

[MakiManPR]

^ that one IF its the original is updatable