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[Noctosphere]

Is it a habit for you to have others do your homework for you? It's not exactly hidden or anything at this point. He's a pretty big douche. Some people like douches, and enjoy a douche as their leader. There's nothing that can be done about that. Just to shine a light on their doucheyness.

He called Jagmeet Singh as "a fake, a phony, and a fraud."
He called a reporter a "tax-funded mouthpiece to the PMO".
He called Trudeau a "Wacko" and lead to Canadian deaths, which they did not.

His "Axe the tax" slogan really doesn't have any details behind it. Just as you said, a buzz word that people want to hear.
Same thing goes with his “bring it home” and "common sense policy" slogans. All bluster without actual details.

He says the housing issue is due to municipal zoning laws. To fix it he wants to cut federal infrastructure funds to non-compliant cities. Not sure how that helps. I doubt he does either.

He says he wants to defund specific media outlets, but gives no details on which or why. Just punishing people he doesn't like.

Yep, a lot of people do it (Not all, but a lot). But the way he carries himself, it just feels even more slimy. The fact that Poilievre has never had a real job outside of being a politician is a big red flag for me.

Jagmeet Singh IS a fraud. His speech of fighting the rich while riding his Maserati, yea sure.
The "tax-funded mouthpiece" reporter, I guess it was a reporter from Radio-Canada? Whenever I hear them talking, Mark Carney is perfect and won all debate, even the one in french. And by the way, he doesn't speak french.
As for Trudeau "being a wacko", iirc, he called his politics "wacko".

The "axe the tax" id about the carbon tax, which afaik, did nothing good so far.

The "Common sense" buzzword, don't tell me that doubling the debt, inflating housing and food price that much is common sense. And don't tell me that Mark Carney will do anything different than Trudreau. Carney was already close to the government and the whole team behind the scene is the exact same.
Ok it's buzzword too, but don't tell me that Carney has shown anything better than Poilievre.

For the housing problem, there is a major problem of bureaucracy. And that job is indeed slowed by municipalities (zoning and all).

Defunding media outlet, 100% he's talking about Radio-Canada. They said Carney won all debate (even the one in french, even though he doesn't speak french), do you know why? If he gets elected, he will increase their budget by yet another 150M$. I wonder why...

Also, ok, he never really left the Chamber of Commons, so what? How is that a red flag?
I see a bigger red flag with Mark Carney, who doesn't even try to hide that he doesn't pay his fair share of taxes. You want that guy to become Prime Minister?

 

[titan_tim]

Jagmeet Singh IS a fraud. His speech of fighting the rich while riding his Maserati, yea sure.

Had to look that one up. It's a lie. He got in a Maserati, and people said it was his. Pretty hard to lie about a car that would be registered under your name. He does seem to have a BMW. Singh's net worth is said to be around 75 million, while Poilievre is around $25. But there are no real numbers out there. All the while, Carney is at $6 after working for Goldman-Sachs, which actually makes some sense.

The "tax-funded mouthpiece" reporter, I guess it was a reporter from Radio-Canada? Whenever I hear them talking, Mark Carney is perfect and won all debate, even the one in french. And by the way, he doesn't speak french.

It was to the Canadian Press, which was a year ago.

As for Trudeau "being a wacko", iirc, he called his politics "wacko".

"When will we put an end to this wacko policy by this wacko PM?"

Yeah, no. He was given multiple times to show decorum, and instead, he was removed.

The "axe the tax" id about the carbon tax, which afaik, did nothing good so far.

All buzz, zero details.

Ok it's buzzword too, but don't tell me that Carney has shown anything better than Poilievre.

Yes, he has shown detailed plans:
He's already eliminated the consumer portion of the federal carbon tax, replacing it with incentive programs to encourage green choices, while maintaining taxes on large industrial emitters.
-He will be reducing the lowest income tax bracket from 15% to 14% and eliminating the GST on new homes under $1 million for first-time buyers.
-He will reduce reliance on the U.S. by removing interprovincial trade barriers and expanding trade ties with countries like the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

He has other policy plans, but they all have details instead of just vague slogans.

For the housing problem, there is a major problem of bureaucracy. And that job is indeed slowed by municipalities (zoning and all).

Saying there is a problem isn't the same as saying how to fix it. Once again, Poilievre's problem.

Defunding media outlet, 100% he's talking about Radio-Canada. They said Carney won all debate (even the one in french, even though he doesn't speak french), do you know why? If he gets elected, he will increase their budget by yet another 150M$. I wonder why...

Actually, he wants to keep Radio-Canada working. At least, the French portion of it. He wants to defund the English portion of the CBC.

https://canadanewsmedia.ca/poilievr...-services-would-require-change-in-law-cbc-ca/

Also, ok, he never really left the Chamber of Commons, so what? How is that a red flag?
I see a bigger red flag with Mark Carney, who doesn't even try to hide that he doesn't pay his fair share of taxes. You want that guy to become Prime Minister?

Had to look up the tax thing. He himself pays his taxes, but his company had off shore accounts where he paid less. Not great, but still legal. Going back to the net worth of these people, it's much more clear that ONE of them is doing more dubious money work on a politician's salary.

 

[Noctosphere]

Yes, he has shown detailed plans:
He's already eliminated the consumer portion of the federal carbon tax, replacing it with incentive programs to encourage green choices, while maintaining taxes on large industrial emitters.
-He will be reducing the lowest income tax bracket from 15% to 14% and eliminating the GST on new homes under $1 million for first-time buyers.
-He will reduce reliance on the U.S. by removing interprovincial trade barriers and expanding trade ties with countries like the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

He has other policy plans, but they all have details instead of just vague slogans.

Saying there is a problem isn't the same as saying how to fix it. Once again, Poilievre's problem.

Actually, he wants to keep Radio-Canada working. At least, the French portion of it. He wants to defund the English portion of the CBC.

https://canadanewsmedia.ca/poilievr...-services-would-require-change-in-law-cbc-ca/

Had to look up the tax thing. He himself pays his taxes, but his company had off shore accounts where he paid less. Not great, but still legal. Going back to the net worth of these people, it's much more clear that ONE of them is doing more dubious money work on a politician's salary.

That promise to cut the federal taxes on new homes under 1 million for first time buyer, that's Poilievre promise. Carney decided to take it. Cutting taxes to the lowest income bracket is probably the worst thing you can do.
Reducing it by 1% will do nothing to us individually (about an extra 500$ at the end of the year) but for the government, it's a lot of money. And i mean A LOT of money. Reducing income taxes is never a good idea. It's a promise you should never listen to.
Reducing reliance on US market is also nothing more. All parties are saying the same.
As for Carney and his off shore accounts, he also moved all his businesses to New York. Avoiding to pay your fair share of taxes by sending your money offshore is legal, but is it moral? Trust me, if you or me, mere commoners, were trying in any ways to avoid paying our taxes, we would get in serious trouble.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

So much whataboutism and meaningless objections, really. Is there anything that would actually persuade you or your both sides approach is that deeply entrenched?

 

[titan_tim]

That promise to cut the federal taxes on new homes under 1 million for first time buyer, that's Poilievre promise. Carney decided to take it.

K. Not sure why it's bad to use ideas that are popular due to the current markets.

Cutting taxes to the lowest income bracket is probably the worst thing you can do.
Reducing it by 1% will do nothing to us individually (about an extra 500$ at the end of the year) but for the government, it's a lot of money. And i mean A LOT of money. Reducing income taxes is never a good idea. It's a promise you should never listen to.

The tax would save over $800, which isn't nothing for some people. As long as it's offset by other taxes, it's fine. Which is what he's doing. He's already said he will lower government spending, and also will tax companies who are large polluters more.

Reducing reliance on US market is also nothing more. All parties are saying the same.

There's never anything wrong at any point with giving local businesses a better chance.

As for Carney and his off shore accounts, he also moved all his businesses to New York. Avoiding to pay your fair share of taxes by sending your money offshore is legal, but is it moral? Trust me, if you or me, mere commoners, were trying in any ways to avoid paying our taxes, we would get in serious trouble.

So it's legal. Now go look deeper into Poilievre's personal fortunes and you'll definitely find a lot of immorality.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

The saintly attitude shown here is refreshing.

 

[Noctosphere]

K. Not sure why it's bad to use ideas that are popular due to the current markets.

The tax would save over $800, which isn't nothing for some people. As long as it's offset by other taxes, it's fine. Which is what he's doing. He's already said he will lower government spending, and also will tax companies who are large polluters more.

There's never anything wrong at any point with giving local businesses a better chance.

So it's legal. Now go look deeper into Poilievre's personal fortunes and you'll definitely find a lot of immorality.

Using popular idea isn't a bad thing, but don't act like it was his idea.

800$ over the year. Now divide this number by 26 (the average amount of paycheck someone will get over the year), you get about 30$. An extra 30$ every 2 weeks, sure it's a lot for some people, but it's an even bigger number if you multiply it by the number of citizen who earn that much. That's the kind of money the government can't afford to lose. Lowering government spending is 100% bullshit. No government ever does that (except... well... you know... that former PM... his party is blue... you know him?) And taxing companies who pollutes more??? Really? Now you are just trolling...

As for reducing our reliance on US market, I said that every parties are saying the same. Again, nothing more with Carney. Next!

Yes, it is legal. Is it morale? Tell me it's ok that regular people pay their fair share of taxes, but the riches don't have to.

 

[titan_tim]

800$ over the year. Now divide this number by 26 (the average amount of paycheck someone will get over the year), you get about 30$. An extra 30$ every 2 weeks, sure it's a lot for some people, but it's an even bigger number if you multiply it by the number of citizen who earn that much. That's the kind of money the government can't afford to lose.

Forgive me if it feels strange for a conservative leaning person to be pro taxing the regular people.

Lowering government spending is 100% bullshit. No government ever does that (except... well... you know... that former PM... his party is blue... you know him?) And taxing companies who pollutes more??? Really? Now you are just trolling...

So it's bullshit..... until it's done. I didn't really mind Harper that much. He had a tough time to work through with the financial crash, and did what he thought needed to be done. I'm not against one side or the other. I vote for what's needed at the time. Currently, we need someone who won't give Canada to the US on a silver platter.

Yes, it is legal. Is it morale? Tell me it's ok that regular people pay their fair share of taxes, but the riches don't have to.

So from what I can see, he worked at Brookfield Asset Management where he assisted people with their pensions funds. To legally avoid different taxes, his company used Bermuda to host the money. He also put his assets into a blind trust and divested from positions that could pose conflicts of interest. So he was helping other investors with their own money, and not his. He was literally doing his job.

Now about Poilievre with his multi millions of dollars on a government salary....

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Now about Poilievre with his multi millions of dollars on a government salary....

It's gonna be another "oh but both sides yada yada yada" which is both disingenuous and misleading, but you're providing a big educational moment, so thank you for your efforts.

 

[Noctosphere]

Forgive me if it feels strange for a conservative leaning person to be pro taxing the regular people.


So it's bullshit..... until it's done. I didn't really mind Harper that much. He had a tough time to work through with the financial crash, and did what he thought needed to be done. I'm not against one side or the other. I vote for what's needed at the time. Currently, we need someone who won't give Canada to the US on a silver platter.


So from what I can see, he worked at Brookfield Asset Management where he assisted people with their pensions funds. To legally avoid different taxes, his company used Bermuda to host the money. He also put his assets into a blind trust and divested from positions that could pose conflicts of interest. So he was helping other investors with their own money, and not his. He was literally doing his job.

Now about Poilievre with his multi millions of dollars on a government salary....

Again, I'd really love to know where you heard that Poilievre would "give Canada to the US on a silver plate".
Also, about Poilievre being worth 25M$, why, when I make research about this, do I only see people on forums calling this information "AI article" or "AI-generated news"? Because it sure seems fishy...

 

[titan_tim]

Again, I'd really love to know where you heard that Poilievre would "give Canada to the US on a silver plate".

For that one, it's purely my feelings of the guy. I think he'd schmooze up to Trump in a second.

Also, about Poilievre being worth 25M$, why, when I make research about this, do I only see people on forums calling this information "AI article" or "AI-generated news"? Because it sure seems fishy...

No hand-waving that one away as AI. The 25 million is an estimate, but still around that area. His real estate ALONE is around 10-14 million. Then there's about 6-9 million in stocks. That's not normal for his position, sorry.

 

[Noctosphere]

For that one, it's purely my feelings of the guy. I think he'd schmooze up to Trump in a second.

No hand-waving that one away as AI. The 25 million is an estimate, but still around that area. His real estate ALONE is around 10-14 million. Then there's about 6-9 million in stocks. That's not normal for his position, sorry.

Ok, so we are down to that 25M$ thing, which again, I ask for some sources. Because, after doing some researches, that article first poped up on a website created in 2024, who is known for its AI-generated newspaper.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

There's also the fact that he has CONSISTENTLY refused to subject himself and his finance to clearance. Carney has not done the same.

 

[previous_member]

Let's see who you want to see as next Canadian Prime Minister

Pierre Poilievre 100%.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Pierre Poilievre 100%.

Oh go fail at crypto

 

[bobbytomorow]

Single issue voter here. Immigration is the only thing that matters now so PPC even if it takes another decade before the rest of the nation wakes (aka the boomers die off)