Hardware "Can Nintendo be saved ?"

[RchUncleSkeleton]

OK, here is another good point... we just listed in this thread 9 first party franchises that Nintendo owns the rights to exclusively.

What does Sony have to list for that? I know Xbox has Halo, sorta gets hazy after that....

Well Sony has franchises such as Little Big Planet, Ape Escape, LocoRoco, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Jak and Daxter, Infamous, MediEval, Sly Cooper, Uncharted and several more that I cannot think of at this point. At least all of those are created by Sony owned developement houses.

Xbox(Microsoft) has ownership of RARE so they have Banjo Kazooie, Perfect Dark, Conker, Killer Instinct and Viva Pinata. Also Lionhead Studios so they have Fable and Black & White. I can't think of any other Microsoft owned franchises though.

 

[Hadrian]

They have been in worse situations, like with the Gamecube sales, they are fine right now.

The only thing Nintendo really need to do at this point is drop the price of their games, the only real competition they have at the moment is mobile phone gaming, the content of these games is quickly catching the handheld market. I can get a really decent game like Riptide, Need for speed shift, Need for speed Hot pursuit, Deadspace, Tintin (Gameloft), Shadowgun, Great little war game, Spiderman (Gameloft), Modern Combat 2 (Gameloft), Samurai II, Cut the rope, Plants Vs Zombies, in most cases the graphics and content is better than my 3DS and, for at most a couple of pounds, some of these are less than a pound (Tintin and Spiderman were 99p for the both of them). These games won't kill Nintendo but it will eat into their sales. £15-25 depending on the content for a boxed game is a better price point. The e-shop / DSi Ware price structure needs a complete overhaul.

Nintendo's own games cost a lot more to develop than Gamelofts cookie cutter games. They could get the eShop to a better point, get some more titles on there. I'm happy with their GB games on there in fact they've done better than on the Wii

OK, here is another good point... we just listed in this thread 9 first party franchises that Nintendo owns the rights to exclusively.

What does Sony have to list for that? I know Xbox has Halo, sorta gets hazy after that....

Sony is getting the better exclusives Uncharted, God of War and if it ever comes out The Last Guardian. They have some others too but those games don't seem to be doing too well.

Of course they don't have anywhere the amount of AAA franchises as Nintendo has but if you look at Microsofts own titles that have shifted more than 5 million copies...there are 3 while Nintendo has at least 12, half of which eclipse Microsofts best sellers.

I often forget about how well Mario Kart does, I saw the sales of the Wii title and it was at 28 million! I mean that is 10 million more than CoD:Black Ops which everyone seems to consider to be an unstoppable seller. Mario Kart Wii is only on one consoles...Black Ops is on 5!

I can't think of any other Microsoft owned franchises though.

Gears of War which is its second best selling franchise on the 360.

 

[RchUncleSkeleton]

Gears of War which is its second best selling franchise on the 360.

As far as I know Gears of War is developed and owned by Epic Games, not Microsoft. It's true that the series has been a XBOX exclusive so far but being as it's not owned by Microsoft, Epic Games could conceivably have the game published on the PS3 or the Wii U if they decided to.

 

[Hadrian]

As far as I know Gears of War is developed and owned by Epic Games, not Microsoft. It's true that the series has been a XBOX exclusive so far but being as it's not owned by Microsoft, Epic Games could conceivably have the game published on the PS3 or the Wii U if they decided to.

Its published by Microsoft though it is true that Epic can release GoW 4 elsewhere, that's if they do another. Microsoft being Microsoft though I'm sure they'd want to keep publishing it.

 

[funem]

They have been in worse situations, like with the Gamecube sales, they are fine right now.

The only thing Nintendo really need to do at this point is drop the price of their games, the only real competition they have at the moment is mobile phone gaming, the content of these games is quickly catching the handheld market. I can get a really decent game like Riptide, Need for speed shift, Need for speed Hot pursuit, Deadspace, Tintin (Gameloft), Shadowgun, Great little war game, Spiderman (Gameloft), Modern Combat 2 (Gameloft), Samurai II, Cut the rope, Plants Vs Zombies, in most cases the graphics and content is better than my 3DS and, for at most a couple of pounds, some of these are less than a pound (Tintin and Spiderman were 99p for the both of them). These games won't kill Nintendo but it will eat into their sales. £15-25 depending on the content for a boxed game is a better price point. The e-shop / DSi Ware price structure needs a complete overhaul.

Nintendo's own games cost a lot more to develop than Gamelofts cookie cutter games. They could get the eShop to a better point, get some more titles on there. I'm happy with their GB games on there in fact they've done better than on the Wii

TinTin, Spiderman and Modern Combat 2 are far from cookie cutter games, thats why I listed them, and I used to hate Gameloft with a passion, either Gameloft got a kick up the arse or someone else is coding them and they just publish them. New games coming out on Mobiles have very large content now, I am sure I have seen some DS/PSP RPG games now on mobiles like Spectral Souls.

 

[Hadrian]

TinTin, Spiderman and Modern Combat 2

From what I've seen Tin Tin appears to be a port of the PC version.

The rest though are just the same as the cheap titles that clog up PC gaming, granted at a better price so not so bad. They're really not anyway near a good substitute to what Nintendo and Sony offer on dedicated handheld hardware. You get what you pay for really, an hour or two and its done. If these companies were to catch up then they would need to spend more on game development which will lead to these games costing a lot more and then people would lose interest.

 

[Erdnaxela]

If they want million of $, they just have to release a real/remake pokemon game.
Nintendo will not "die" that easily.

 

[mysticwaterfall]

I've been hearing these Nintendo is doomed stories since the N64 came out, Nintendo was doomed for using cartridges. Then the gamecube was doomed and the mythical mario universe was coming out on xbox. Then the wii was a plaything. Now the Wii You will be DOA and the 3DS is the next virtual boy.

Its starting to get really, really old. People need to learn to realise that not being the most succesful does not equal failure. Nintendo is never going anywhere.