Biden steps down, endorses Kamala

[RedColoredStars]

He's clarified it in other statements, but you'd never know because you lack the curiosity to go find out.

We don't talk about project 2025 because Trump doesn't support it. I don't know of any Republican politician who does. Even your beloved media agrees.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...5-heritage-foundation-fact-check/74340278007/

LMAO! Your own "proof" actually proves you wrong. Can't even make this shit up.

 

[SeltzerMist]

LMAO! Your own "proof" actually proves you wrong. Can't even make this shit up.

No one even stated that Trump is behind the plan, just that no one believes he isn't aware of the bullet points and no one reasonable believes he doesn't support it.

 

[RedColoredStars]

No one even stated that Trump is behind the plan, just that no one believes he isn't aware of the bullet points and no one reasonable believes he doesn't support it.

Exactly. Pretty certain they didn't even read their own "proof" that was supposed to prove others wrong. lol.

 

[TraderPatTX]

If Trump actually wanted to distance himself from Project 2025, Vance was 100% the wrong pick for VP. He wrote the foreword to a book authored by Project 2025's primary creator, and lavished it with praise. There is no escaping the ticket's connection to P2025 now.

Just because you know people doesn't mean that you agree with them on everything. Does every Democrat believe and support the pro-Hamas protesters who are destroying property and burning US flags?

The overwhelming majority of voters from both parties want younger candidates representing them. Trump would also step down if he gave a shit about the future of his party, but he does not.

If that was true, it would have been reflected in the primaries. Biden and Trump received the most votes and are therefore the rightful nominees for president. The question is, why did the Democrat elite force Biden, who is the most popular president in history with 81 million votes, out of the race?

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So, where did he clarify it? On TruthSocial? It's funny how you said he disavows it, and I show proof of something from his own platform, but instead of proving where he clarifies it, you just turn this back on me saying I lack the curiosity to find out. It's like someone making a claim, and then telling everyone else to go look for it, begging the question if it exists in the first place. This proof of clarification and for it referencing his original statement to demonstrate that clarification is on you, not me.

Do you expect me to do all the legwork for you? I already offered proof to you. I even used a media source, but you completely glossed over that. It's not my job to hold your hand. You know where to go to find the info. You've proven that you don't lack the curiosity, you are just lazy.

I already pointed out how he said he wishes good luck to it. He would have condemned it fully if he didn't support it.

Sarcasm really is lost on the left.

"Screw what the voters want", eh? Does that mean you think a president should be voted based on popular vote than electoral vote?

Aren't you the least bit upset that the Democrat primaries all these months ended up being a waste of time and money? Is this not a threat to democracy? If it isn't, wtf is democracy to you people?

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LMAO! Your own "proof" actually proves you wrong. Can't even make this shit up.

Yet, you fail to say how. And you actually believe you got one over on me.

 

[SeltzerMist]

Do you expect me to do all the legwork for you? I already offered proof to you

Here we go again "Do your own research to prove my point right"

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Is this not a threat to democracy? If it isn't, wtf is democracy to you people?

Ultimately meaningless statement from someone who believes the election was stolen, thinks 1/6 had validity, ignores the fake elector scheme, and ignores that Trump lost the vote of the people in 2016.

If you actually cared about democracy and the will of the people you'd admit Hillary should have been president. At least you'd be consistent there.

 

[Hanafuda]

I have not read this "Project 2025" position statement but I sure have heard a lot of scaremongering about it. Of course it's just what someone (Heritage Foundation) proposes, i.e. a wish list, like the "Green New Deal," or Biden's nevergonnahappen plan to "reform the Supreme Court," or a million other political pipedreams before it. Actually enacting parts of such a position statement into law takes an alignment of forces from all three branches that rarely occurs, and even then what actually passes is watered down by compromise (which is a good thing).

But I have to wonder, what is it that this "Project 2025" proposes that is so outrageously objectionable to Democrats? All I hear is the boogeyman, and no actual details (which, Im left to suspect is by design).

I'm serious.

Edit: and btw, the reason I'm asking is because it looks like the fear mongering and false claims about "Project 2025" go right to the top:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/24/politics/fact-check-harris-project-2025-trump/index.html

" One of Harris’ claims about Project 2025 is false, while another is at least misleading. The Project 2025 document does not show that Trump intends to cut Social Security; the document barely discusses Social Security at all and does not propose cuts to the program. In addition, contrary to Harris’ suggestion, Project 2025 does not call to “end” the Affordable Care Act or eliminate its protections for people with pre-existing conditions. The document does criticize the Affordable Care Act, especially the law’s expansion of Medicaid, but makes clear it is advocating changes to the law rather than terminating the law entirely."

 

[TraderPatTX]

I have not read this "Project 2025" position statement but I sure have heard a lot of scaremongering about it. Of course it's just what someone (Heritage Foundation) proposes, i.e. a wish list, like the "Green New Deal," or Biden's nevergonnahappen plan to "reform the Supreme Court," or a million other political pipedreams before it. Actually enacting parts of such a position statement into law takes an alignment of forces from all three branches that rarely occurs, and even then what actually passes is watered down by compromise (which is a good thing).

But I have to wonder, what is it that this "Project 2025" proposes that is so outrageously objectionable to Democrats? All I hear is the boogeyman, and no actual details (which, Im left to suspect is by design).

I'm serious.

The Heritage Foundation have released these policy proposals since the 80's. Only now the left is choosing to try to attach it to Trump to try and scare independents, but it's not working. People only care about the things that are currently affecting them, like the open border and inflation that the left and the gaslight media said was transitory 3 years ago.

When you have zero accomplishments and the country is worse off than it was before, they are forced to run on scare tactics and outright lies. Expect more of this over the next 100 days.

 

[SeltzerMist]

what is it that this "Project 2025" proposes that is so outrageously objectionable to Democrats?

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When you have zero accomplishments and the country is worse off than it was before,

This is not a stance grounded in reality. Botched pandemic response, crime was up, unemployment went up, for starters. I understand you in particular refuse all this.

 

[Hanafuda]

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See, right here, this bit of propaganda you posted is refuted by the CNN fact check I posted, specifically wrt: Social Security and the Affordable Care Act, because Kamala Harris repeated the same false claims. Since the source of your meme-ish list is lying and not to be trusted, I'm not believing any of that.

The source you should be citing is language directly from the "Project 2025" document itself. I'm sure you disagree with almost every suggestion in it, which is fine. But I also suspect it doesn't actually say most of the things you claim it says.

 

[SeltzerMist]

See, right here, this bit of propaganda you posted is refuted by the CNN fact check I posted, specifically wrt: Social Security and the Affordable Care Act, because Kamala Harris repeated the same false claims. Since the source of your meme-ish list is lying and not to be trusted, I'm not believing any of that.

These are simply bullet points from the project 2025 outline. It's not misinformation or propaganda. To say these aren't goals of projet 2025 is the false propaganda.

This isn't a meme. It's an infographic.

 

[Hanafuda]

These are simply bullet points from the project 2025 outline. It's not misinformation or propaganda. To say these aren't goals of projet 2025 is the false propaganda.

This isn't a meme. It's an infographic.

CNN says it's bullshit. Tell them.

 

[urherenow]

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This is not a stance grounded in reality. Botched pandemic response, crime was up, unemployment went up, for starters. I understand you in particular refuse all this.

lol... you reply with a meme? One that is incontravertably false even. The only time unemployment started going up, was after the pandemic. Biden claims numbers that are those same losses simply coming back. Biiden is also the one with the botched response. Trump is the reason the vax was rolled out so quickly. Dems "controlling the purse strings" was a huge part of the last minute spending in EXTREME excess, and Trump didn't want to approve the second stimulus because he wanted it to go just to individuals, but the dems insisted on billions to corporations. They gave him no choice. Approve the whole thing, or nobody gets anything.

You are litteraly a parrot, and it's you who are not based in reality.

 

[SeltzerMist]

lol... you reply with a meme? One that is incontravertably false even. The only time unemployment started going up, was after the pandemic. Biden claims numbers that are those same losses simply coming back. Biiden is also the one with the botched response. Trump is the reason the vax was rolled out so quickly. Dems "controlling the purse strings" was a huge part of the last minute spending in EXTREME excess, and Trump didn't want to approve the second stimulus because he wanted it to go just to individuals, but the dems insisted on billions to corporations. They gave him no choice. Approve the whole thing, or nobody gets anything.

You are litteraly a parrot, and it's you who are not based in reality.

More MAGA nonsense and projection

 

[miniminx]

More MAGA nonsense and projection

Spermist, just admit you are wrong and move on. You posted more propoganda that's even been called out on your own side but you want to keep pushing the lies. We already know you're an unhinged left wing fanatic and would never vote for anyone apart from your undemocratically unelected instilled supreme first Indian Black woman leader. Just about everything you post gets called out for being bullshit. You might be dealing with simpletons with the same IQ level as yourself in your day to day circle of "friends" (and there's a few in here that are on the same level as yourself), however there's us that are above you in every way - we try to keep you on the correct path but it's difficult to change a fanatics way of thinking. You've been programmed by social engineering and it's time you were hit up with a new program - don't worry though, soon (November) you will need to face up to reality and at that point the reprogramming will begin.

 

[SeltzerMist]

Slurs and racism again

 

[TraderPatTX]

See, right here, this bit of propaganda you posted is refuted by the CNN fact check I posted, specifically wrt: Social Security and the Affordable Care Act, because Kamala Harris repeated the same false claims. Since the source of your meme-ish list is lying and not to be trusted, I'm not believing any of that.

The source you should be citing is language directly from the "Project 2025" document itself. I'm sure you disagree with almost every suggestion in it, which is fine. But I also suspect it doesn't actually say most of the things you claim it says.

The left never go to source documents or unedited video evidence. It requires too much work. Much easier to just parrot the gaslight media instead. Less thinking is involved. That's why they are always surprised when things go the opposite of what they expect, which leads to rioting.

And when we prove them wrong, then they call us bigots and Nazis because that's all they have at this point.

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Spermist, just admit you are wrong and move on. You posted more propoganda that's even been called out on your own side but you want to keep pushing the lies. We already know you're an unhinged left wing fanatic and would never vote for anyone apart from your undemocratically unelected instilled supreme first Indian Black woman leader. Just about everything you post gets called out for being bullshit. You might be dealing with simpletons with the same IQ level as yourself in your day to day circle of "friends" (and there's a few in here that are on the same level as yourself), however there's us that are above you in every way - we try to keep you on the correct path but it's difficult to change a fanatics way of thinking. You've been programmed by social engineering and it's time you were hit up with a new program - don't worry though, soon (November) you will need to face up to reality and at that point the reprogramming will begin.

It truly is a cult at this point.

 

[SeltzerMist]

The left never go to source documents or unedited video evidence. It requires too much work. Much easier to just parrot the gaslight media instead. Less thinking is involved. That's why they are always surprised when things go the opposite of what they expect, which leads to rioting.

And when we prove them wrong, then they call us bigots and Nazis because that's all they have at this point.

One of you posted a source from an unreliable alt right website.

The article you posted didn't even back your claim and this was explained to you.

You're being called bigots and Nazis because you support candidate whit a history of racism and paraphrasing Hitler. Not you specifically but others are crying about DEI which is just the new racist dog whistle.

And you continue to tell us to look it up ourselves

Simple yes or no question for you since your so fixed on democracy and Harris stealing the votes or whatever.

Should Hillary have been president due to receiving more votes than Trump?

A non response to the question will also be telling.

 

[TraderPatTX]

One of you posted a source from an unreliable alt right website.

The article you posted didn't even back your claim and this was explained to you.

You're being called bigots and Nazis because you support candidate whit a history of racism and paraphrasing Hitler. Not you specifically but others are crying about DEI which is just the new racist dog whistle.

And you continue to tell us to look it up ourselves

Simple yes or no question for you since your so fixed on democracy and Harris stealing the votes or whatever.

Should Hillary have been president due to receiving more votes than Trump?

A non response to the question will also be telling.

What part of "I'm not going to respond to you anymore" are you struggling with?

How strange that you are so big for me to answer your questions but you constantly sidestep my questions. I'll even bold it for you so you can't miss it.

How many votes did Kamala receive in the 2024 primaries as the candidate for president?

It's ironic that the person calling me a Nazi is disregarding elections, tried to get the leading Republican nominee thrown off ballots, and support a continued gag order restricting the nominee's speech, like the Nazis did. You really can't make this shit up.

 

[SeltzerMist]

What part of "I'm not going to respond to you anymore" are you struggling with?

Ah, big take your ball and go home energy

 

[Hanafuda]

Should Hillary have been president due to receiving more votes than Trump?

Trump received more electoral votes than Clinton. That's how it works. Your question is a moot point.