Best GBA and 3DS Emulator?

Discussion in '3DS - Homebrew Development and Emulators' started by DynastyVic, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. DynastyVic
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    I have checked and read 2 which was ultimate GBA or another one. Which one is suggested?

    Also there is sharkdive for 3DS cheats I read but it doesn't have all the cheats.
    Will this allow me to edit pokemon save files or use another cheat engine?
    Also do I wait for Sharkdive to update as I read something about checkpoint which is another cheat engine?
     
  2. RedL

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    mGBA is good.
     
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  3. SCOTT0852

    SCOTT0852 Kid now, squid now

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    New Super Ultimate Injector is the only recommended GBA injector, especially for Pokemon, which corrupts once you beat the game if you use the Ultimate GBA VC Injector.
    You will have to use PkHeX on a PC for editing your save for a GBA Pokemon game, nothing on the 3DS can touch GBA saves except GodMode9.
    Checkpoint is not a cheat engine, it is a tool for making and restoring save backups. It only works with 3DS and DS games, not GBA games. Sharkive isn't a cheat engine either, it only downloads cheats for Luma's built in cheat engine to use (which only supports 3DS games).
     
  4. DynastyVic
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    Is there a link thread to the new super ultimate injector as I see a lot of gbc injector threads.
     
  5. DjoeN

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    mGBA (cia) if you don't want to inject, but just run your roms from a folder on the SD

    New Super Ultimate Injector (NSUI) if you want to install your GBA roms as a 3DS VC game (takes more space on your SD)

    To be honest, i preffer mGBA, i can play / save state and restore / use cheats and set the GBA screen on top or bottom screen / set screen size.

    Can't do that all when injecting and intalling them.
     
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  6. DynastyVic
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    Is there a major difference in stability. A lot of the time I want to just play Kingdom hearts chain of memory or pokemon without crashing.
     
  7. Dartz150

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    GBA Injects work with a special mode the 3DS has, called AGB_FIRM. To have a better understanding, is like if the 3DS has a GBA inside, and when loading GBA games, the 3DS runs the games as if it where a real GBA, so the compatibility and accuracy matches 100%.

    With mGBA, although the compatibility is high, is not on par with the real hardware like AGB_FIRM, so expect some games to not run at full speed or with some issues, but in exchange you'll have some benefits such as Cheat support, savestates, rom selection, sleep mode by closing the lid, special sensor, gameboy camera emulation through the 3DS cameras and a large etc.

    The final choice is yours, I personally have both, depending on the game and if I want to experience the game as if it where the real GBA.
     
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    Same here, i have both, but most of the time i use mGBA, just for the save state reasons, Some games don't let me save at a moment i want to quit or do something else, save states is a big + then.
     
  9. SCOTT0852

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    AGB_FIRM (what NSUI uses to run its GBA games) should never crash unless the same would happen on a real GBA, as it uses real GBA hardware hidden inside the 3DS. mGBA would be more likely to crash, although I've never heard of it crashing. mGBA support save states and fast forward, but even on a new 3DS some games have slowdown that doesn't happen in AGB_FIRM which makes the fast forward pointless.
     
  10. Humanity

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    Wow. They put GBA hardware in the 3DS? Why?

    But they did not put it in DSi??
     
  11. SCOTT0852

    SCOTT0852 Kid now, squid now

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    I mean, the DS used the same ARM7 as the GBA, so it would be a bit of a waste to not also allow GBA games.
    They did, the ARM7 is used exclusively for saving in DS games iirc.
     
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  14. sks316

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    Here's how I see it:

    If you care about accuracy and speed or just want to play GBA games in the best way possible on the 3DS, you'll want to make injects using the NSUI (New Super Ultimate Injector).

    If you want to cheat or use save states or such, mGBA is what you're after.

    It really just depends on what you want.
     
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    The AGB_FIRM just dumbs-down the ARM9 chip to run slow like an ARM7 in a real GBA, supporting all the syscalls and API functions of a real GBA system.
     
  16. SCOTT0852

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    No, there is a real ARM7 in there. DS games need one anyway, otherwise they would be unable to save. And no, the ARM11 does not emulate the ARM7. The console isn't even wired up in a way that it could.
     
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    I was under the impression that the 3DS only had ARM9 and ARM11, and that AGB_FIRM used the ARM9 chip to simulate ARM7.
     
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