Wiigator, from experience releasing public betas myself in the past, I think it's a good idea as long as you have an easy way for the user to send debugging data back to you. so if you have a debug log file that is created or something that could be written to the SD card (someone else suggested that before me, I think it's a great idea) then a public beta will be helpful to you and to others. otherwise it may well just end up being a buggy first release which I think it probably not what you're trying to do with it.
Also don't forget to put clear information in a readme within the public beta's archive that tells people that it's a public beta, you're not responsible for this and that, bug reports must be made to such and such topic of such and such forum (rather than email of course), and so on.
I'm sure you know all that, but in your excitement to get the loader out in the public don't forget those details or you'll end up being frustrated I think.
Cheers
Also don't forget to put clear information in a readme within the public beta's archive that tells people that it's a public beta, you're not responsible for this and that, bug reports must be made to such and such topic of such and such forum (rather than email of course), and so on.
I'm sure you know all that, but in your excitement to get the loader out in the public don't forget those details or you'll end up being frustrated I think.
Cheers
The last thing he needs to worry about is keeping an official site. Let him spend his time programing apps, not web sites
Yeah, i heard this from one other person. I am a moderator on the site and i will get in touch with the admin to see why.
Public betas are a double edged sword. The problem is you get a lot of really terrible testers with the good ones. People who will hinder you far more than they will help. A well defined format for test results helps alleviate this problem to a certain extent, but I would still expect to see a flood of people posting garbage like "zomg, X gaem dont work fix now!" It would, however, provide a much quicker way to track down commonalities in the bugs, like system type, mod chip installed, cIOS versions installed or previously installed, etc.
Sorting the results is also something that we could do as a community to help. Condensing the repots into an easy to read format, grouping similar reports, excluding garbage. Wiiloader.com would be a great place to do that, if Wiigator gave the go-ahead.
Sorting the results is also something that we could do as a community to help. Condensing the repots into an easy to read format, grouping similar reports, excluding garbage. Wiiloader.com would be a great place to do that, if Wiigator gave the go-ahead.
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basicly 5 seconds slower than disc channel, not bad at all for softmodding when it eventually gets released, o.1 is pathetic though...
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Well.. I can't say that I have every NTSC game available...but damn well close to it... zipped (rar) and in patched form.. And I would be willing to run a test on each game individually.... I am not a big gamer... I like the whole idea of being able to do it... I was already making a list with the current version on my spare time... after playing video games for 25 years or so... you'd probably fade away from it as well.. I do enjoy them from time to time especially driving simulator games...plus I have a 5 1/2 year old who loves his Wii.. anyways... it would be a great idea Wiigator. I appreciate all your time and effort... I was just mentioning it to a friend that your current testers probably don't even have half the games out to even test... that's mainly an assumption on my part... but from the reads of others in this thread it seems a lot have deleted theirs after they burned it with a patch because of lacking HD space... I have about 2TB's of space to play with... and I know of some others here that have the same capabilities... So you will probably see who the real testers would be if this was made public and would actually be helpful.
What I think should be done is anyone coming into the thread after the public testing release of the version still needing work with a repetitve question should not even be given the access to participate any longer and they can continue to play the one or 2 backups that they only needed it to run for in the 1st place. Then you will see who is seriously wanting to contribute in the project and who is not, plain and simple.
If you are serious about helping then are you ready to be a true tester is the question at hand right now. Sounds to me Wiigator may want us to help contribute in this project, are you serious? If not then shut the hell up.
What I think should be done is anyone coming into the thread after the public testing release of the version still needing work with a repetitve question should not even be given the access to participate any longer and they can continue to play the one or 2 backups that they only needed it to run for in the 1st place. Then you will see who is seriously wanting to contribute in the project and who is not, plain and simple.
If you are serious about helping then are you ready to be a true tester is the question at hand right now. Sounds to me Wiigator may want us to help contribute in this project, are you serious? If not then shut the hell up.
Id be happy witha public beta test. but not really bothered if you dont. Just as long as you have it reasled for the Xmas games realeses - for back up reasons obviously !
Keep up the good work Wigator/Wani
Also not sure if this has been asked, but will the 0.3 play other regions ? pretty sure i read that the 0.1 can
Keep up the good work Wigator/Wani
Also not sure if this has been asked, but will the 0.3 play other regions ? pretty sure i read that the 0.1 can
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We just had a brief exchange about that.koxur said:
From this point on, all of WiiGator's updates will be in his GBATemp Blog.
For those of you who do not know how to access it, it's as simple as clicking "BLOG" under one of his posts. And also the newest blogs appear on the GBATemp Latest Discussions box in the corner as well.
I will keep this thread up for discussion, but I will close it if it starts getting derailed again.
Gaisuto said:
you can also see all of his posts by going to wiigators profile and clicking the 'posts' tab. i've been doing this for wiigator and waninkoko for a while so i don't have to(but i do anyway) sift through all this nonsense.
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Public beta test is a really good idea imo. I really don't mind when the loader will be released. As long as it gets the loader done, I'm sure both the developers and this forum's members/lurkers will be happy
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Personally, I wouldn't like a public beta. Too many people are desperate. Look at the PGP cracking thread. >_>
And junk_man32 has been trying to trick me into giving him the 0.3 alpha.
And junk_man32 has been trying to trick me into giving him the 0.3 alpha.
junk_man32 said:
WiiGator would have been better off not telling anyone about 0.3 and releasing it as a surprise when it's finished...
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