atheism

[TGBoy]

I will let u in on a secret
Directed Panspermia it is.
I tell u its those damn aliens they are experimentin wit us using earth as a test tube
They brought us here.
They are planning to later mind control us to do their bidding...

"All Your Base Belong to Us "

 

[Deleted User]

I don't like religion because ... it's basically teaching people to believe in things blindly ... which leads to believing in lies. Take 3 religions. Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity. Suppose, ten million people believe in Shiva. Another ten million believe in Jesus. Another ten million believe in Buddha. Only one can exist (if one exists). So that's at last twenty million people wasting their money/time/energy worshipping something that doesn't exist. That's twenty million people teaching their children LIES.They are better off worshipping my toenail clippings, because I can show they exist.

Now which twenty million is the real deal? Well, this is just an example. There are really hundreds of religions out there. It's really a lot easier to just see the big picture and realize that there is no ONE true religion. Religion is a man made creation to answer the unexplained, to give people a reason to live, and for people to look to a higher being to guide them in their lives.

I'm not against religion because I enjoy it. It's because I don't like seeing people devote their LIVES and TIME on things they have no proof of. It makes me sad to see present humans at that level. It is disgusting to teach children religion as FACT. I could accpept religion maybe a few thousands years ago. But now, we don't need religion anymore to explain why a rainbow appears in the sky.

And don't even say science is a religion. That's a complete insult to science. Don't even mix the two up. Science has a method. Science demands proof. Science is logical.

Talking bushes on fire, is NOTHING close to science. If you don't see anything absurd about talking bushes on fire, then you're a prime example of what religion does to people's minds. You stop thinking critically and skeptically ... and accept the ridiculous as fact. And in the bible, there's more than just one outrageous example of absurdity. So to take the whole bible and accept it 100% ... is absolutely astonishing to me. I can never imagine myself believing in such BS. I can never bring myself to believe in that god. My mind just doesn't allow me to do that.

 

[Bamboo]

This post is directed at people who think science is unbiased.
And im talking about the majority here not ALL science.

Science is biased away from god when a discovery is made statements are made with the assumption there is no god or even to purposely disprove god. Science is not neutral as it should be. We live in a society that thinks that the idea of god is 'super natural' and 'magical' but why ? who the hell said ?
This maybe started When Darwin came up with the theory of evolution he was shocked that he had actually disproved god! He called himself
"a naturalist", saying that god is unnatural, out of this world, the opposite of science. But really he didn't disprove god at all. His findings that he observed where animals adapting to different environments. He then added heaps of other theories one is the idea that god didn't create anything because it appears that it all made itself. He was so eager to disprove god that he jumped the gun.
The sad thing is though allot of people believed him even allot of the Christians. Such is science today. People ate up the "facts" that disproved god and went around telling Christian scientists that they were crazy. But today we now know that Darwin didn't actually disprove god at all.

Why is man so intent on disproving god ? why cant there be believers and just people who admit they don't know ?
Because man doesn't know god.
He thinks he does because people have told him what god is but most people out there who claim they know god dont, and they make people think god hates gays hates people and all that stuff. Religion uses the word god for all kinds of horrible things and make people hate god or think the idea of god is crazy.


You don't know god you don't know what god is. so how can you say hes not real and that you don't believe or cant believe .

 

[Bamboo]

I don't like religion because ... it's basically teaching people to believe in things blindly ... which leads to believing in lies. Take 3 religions. Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity. Suppose, ten million people believe in Shiva. Another ten million believe in Jesus. Another ten million believe in Buddha. Only one can exist (if one exists). So that's at last twenty million people wasting their money/time/energy worshipping something that doesn't exist. That's twenty million people teaching their children LIES.They are better off worshipping my toenail clippings, because I can show they exist.
Shouldn't the fact that so many people all believe in a god mean somthing to you ? not they fact that they are different gods ?
No matter what man says he cant fully know god the biggest mistake is to say you are right and they are wrong. Nobody has all the answers not science and not any one religion. IT is impossible for man not to teach something that isn't true.
Every year we learn that sumthing which where once thought as fact was actually not true. Do you think you are exempt from lies because you believe in "facts" it was once taught that smoking was good for your health.
We are all in this together lies AND truths. They can be both found in religion AND science.
No one will give you the truth so find it yourself.

Now which twenty million is the real deal?Â
They all wrong and right. When they are teaching love they are correct When they are teaching fear or hate they are wrong.
This is not about different religions or science its about individuals.

Well, this is just an example. There are really hundreds of religions out there. It's really a lot easier to just see the big picture and realize that there is no ONE true religion. Religion is a man made creation to answer the unexplained, to give people a reason to live, and for people to look to a higher being to guide them in their lives.
Yes sometimes it is. Many people actually don't believe in god but say they do because they want to.
But many people actually like you, but on the contrary cant believe in a world WITHOUT a god.

QUOTE(Nestea80 @ Nov 23 2007, 02:47 AM)

I'm not against religion because I enjoy it. It's because I don't like seeing people devote their LIVES and TIME on things they have no proof of. It makes me sad to see present humans at that level. It is disgusting to teach children religion as FACT. I could accpept religion maybe a few thousands years ago. But now, we don't need religion anymore to explain why a rainbow appears in the sky.

And don't even say science is a religion. That's a complete insult to science. Don't even mix the two up. Science has a method. Science demands proof. Science is logical.Â

Talking bushes on fire, is NOTHING close to science. If you don't see anything absurd about talking bushes on fire, then you're a prime example of what religion does to people's minds. You stop thinking critically and skeptically ... and accept the ridiculous as fact. And in the bible, there's more than just one outrageous example of absurdity. So to take the whole bible and accept it 100% ... is absolutely astonishing to me. I can never imagine myself believing in such BS. I can never bring myself to believe in that god. My mind just doesn't allow me to do that.

Have you read the whole bible ?
fact is you will only believe what you are willing to.
Edit: Just because you don't believe in a burning bush doesn't mean there is no god.

 

[.TakaM]

serious discussion in the testing area?

Unacceptable

 

[Bamboo]

hahhaaa

 

[xcalibur]

serious discussion in the testing area?

Unacceptable

they just wouldnt listen

 

[TGBoy]

I keep tellin em its them aliens..
They watchin over us. There are in the moon. tats their spaceship. The pyramids of ghiza, and mayan pyramids. All theirs man.
Did u know they say the moon is older than earth...

 

[2cb2ct7]

@Bamboo

You seem to take the fanatical Christian fundamentalist view of science. Usually this view denotes no actual understanding of what science is or where it came from, so let me tell you. Science has developed as a branch of what was known as natural philosophy. During the renaissance natural philosophy was but a branch of philosophy. It dealt with nature, the natural world, funnily enough. Natural philosophers concerned themselves only with natural phenomena that could be observed and measured. Many natural philosophers were in fact deeply religious (usually Christian).

So firstly, science does not equal atheism. Science does not ask questions about God because these are not appropriate questions for science to ask (natural philosopy, natural world, that which can be observed and measured).

Trust me, I have met some of the biggest religious zealots and freaks in the research arm of the pharma company I work at.

Secondly, the Bible is not literal truth. If you think that you are a moron. FACT.

The Old Testament is a collection of stories (told by whom? to who? in what language? when was this recorded? how many times has this printed collection been trasnlated to other languages?). The alteration of oral tradition through time and retelling is unavoidable. Think of a game of chinese whispers.

The New Testament is supposedly the (indirect) word of Jesus. What language did Jesus speak? Whom did he tell his stories to? When was the New Testament first recorded? How much long after Christ's life did this recording take place? Who recorded it? In what language? Why was a Council elected to choose which books to include? Is that the will of God?

That one really blew me away. The New Testament had books included based on decision by a collection of men. What about the forbidden books of the Bible? Is man just God's editor?

 

[zeppo]

serious discussion in the testing area?

Unacceptable

Now just wait until linky comes along with some comment about "stick it in Jesus' pooper" or some shit like that.

 

[Veho]

Science.

The more you know the freakier it gets. Everyone's heard of the chaos theory? Does anyone know what it actually means? And if you mention butterflies, it means you have no idea, and are just blurting out buzzwords.

 

[serious_sean]

regardless of what the conversation has devolved into, the fact remains that atheists don't necessarily accept the big bang theory, or science at all.

all atheism means is a lack of belief in supernatural gods.

 

[Ace Gunman]

regardless of what the conversation has devolved into, the fact remains that atheists don't necessarily accept the big band theory

I DEFY YOU BIG BAND THEORY!

 

[serious_sean]

nice catch. i edited that in less than 5 seconds

 

[Veho]

THERE IS NO BAND!


Or spoon.


Or cake.




The cake is a lie.

 

[Ace Gunman]

nice catch. i edited that in less than 5 secondsÂ

Thanks.

 

[dakeyras]

all atheism means is a lack of belief in supernatural gods.

What about natural gods?

 

[Ace Gunman]

all atheism means is a lack of belief in supernatural gods.


What about natural gods?

 

[MrKuenning]

You don't need religion to be moral and ethical. I'm an atheist, but that doesn't mean I think murder and adultery is okay.Â

 It's an insult to the humans to think that we need religion to be good people.

It's not about being pessimistic or optimistic ... it's about being realistic. Just because it's optimistic to think I'll live an immortal life in heaven if I simply believe in a god ... doesn't mean I'll believe in it. I'm totally fine with thinking that I will live a finite life ... the way every other animal/organism on earth has a finite life. And even if I want to believe in God (or a god), I can't. I can't bring myself into believing in mysterious, invisible, supernatural beings. Belief is not a choice.

I am just going to say one thing... If there were no God, then there is no such things as morals. It is only because there is a God that there is a diffrence between right and wrong. If everything really happend by chance than ethicly you have as much value as a rock. The very fact you believe murder to be wrong. Is proof of a God.

 

[dakeyras]

Are you being ironic?