Any vegans/vegetarians here besides me?

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lol, intolerance to vegans, I wasn't expecting that, calling it unnatural, what is this the 17th century? Vegetarianism might be unnatural, ok, the internet is unnatural too, vaccines are too, so what? We are the able to make choices, and mistakes of course.

I wouldn't be able to live without meat, but if you decided that that's the way you wanna roll and you respect others people decisions -unlike a few of the omnivorous posters- well, good for you.
 
Let's not turn this into a flame war. Please respect others decisions in life!

That said, I don't think I could EVER be a vegetarian... I don't think even a trip to an abattoir would subside me. I love me some good meat (GROW UP!). I also can't shake the feeling that it's just unnatural. Wouldn't it be unhealthy to live without the benefits? Though I suppose this day and age, there are plenty of artificial alternatives that are probably just as good... Just not as satisfying or tasty
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The Worst said:
scdsone said:

I knew a girl who didn't use jelly, she used Vaseline
Her Birthday parties must have been terrible..

(Like this "joke")
 
lagman said:
lol, intolerance to vegans, I wasn't expecting that, calling it unnatural, what is this the 17th century? Vegetarianism might be unnatural, ok, the internet is unnatural too, vaccines are too, so what? We are the able to make choices, and mistakes of course.

I wouldn't be able to live without meat, but if you decided that that's the way you wanna roll and you respect others people decisions -unlike a few of the omnivorous posters- well, good for you.

Thanks for this post. I'm glad to talk to someone like you. Mutual respect on both side is the way to handle things like this.

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I have toyed with the idea of being vegetarian--I may one day go for it, but for now, the only dietary restrictions I follow are those laid down by my religious beliefs. But there are times when I try not to think about what my food was before it made it to the pan, but I'm not all that disgusted with animal and animal by products being in my food. >_>...
 
shaunj66 said:
The Worst said:
scdsone said:

I knew a girl who didn't use jelly, she used Vaseline
Her Birthday parties must have been terrible..

(Like this "joke")

it's from an old song that was popular when i was really young




all that said... yeah it was a pretty lame joke, i just wanted to clear up that it wasn't supposed to be sexual
 
Rense.com there, check that main site a bit as I really don't think that's a top quality site for stated fact what so ever. Best try some sort of medical site with citing and sources tied up to back that argument up because really ya you can get small amounts of what meat have in non-meat sources but not enough to keep completely healthy in respect to some fatty acid and vitamin deficiencies. I personally have nothing against a vegetarian and they keep clear of the stuff that can stare back at you, but it's the extremists beyond that point I got no respect for (but at least I'm nice to and listen/debate with ...up until I hit a militant type then it's a verbal ground war.)
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I'm a raw foodist. I eat only uncooked foods (fresh fruits, vegetables, and nuts)

Don't give a shit about animals though. Doing it for the health, and frankly, I've felt pretty incredible since I switched. Energy level is WAY up, and never get that weighed down feeling from your standard cooked foods. Its also fairly cheap to do so where I live (7-10USD a day).

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Urza, is that out of lazyness, tightness, inability to cook or is it something you've really aimed for?
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Also, out of interest, do you have sushi or raw steak?


Also, I love mah meat, though I'm more of a chicken/fish person and I've never really had a steak. I don't think I'd be able to function as a vegetarian/vegan due to a lot of salady vegetables making me gag. I force myself to eat stuff like that for the health aspect, although I really don't like a lot of it.
 
I gave veggie burger a try and it taste like mushroom with tree branch in it, so I then I ate a beef burger. I don't think eating animal is cruel because it's natural thing to do.
 
"I respect anyone who DOES eat animal produce as long as they respect MY choice. The only thing that has yet to piss me off in being a vegan is peoples' reaction to telling them. They tend think you're some kind of a cultist or weirdo. Does disliking broccoli make you strange? No. Does disliking milk make you weird? No. So why should disliking meat?"

I think this comes under the I do not personally care for your choice but as long as it does not affect me (i.e. a group of people try to pass a law that affects my way of things) I could care less. The phrasing of that comes dangerously close the the right not to be offended stuff that I completely disagree with.

The food: assuming it is pure preference (allergies/intolerances) and assuming
As for vegan/vegetarian food I agree some of it is quite nice but for long term stuff I like meat.

Also just for fun: the replicator debate. Should the star trek style replicator (I feed in some elements and a bit of energy and out pops a steak) be made where would you stand (assuming elements/energy appear from the air/ground/are sustainable)?

RE: cows, some would argue that it is just modern cows that need milking and only through selective breeding (I will resist the urge to spin this into a GM debate) has such a position come to pass.

"Meat has a history of being a disease carrier"
I have a long list of plants carrying toxins.

".....automatically assures health and well-being"
A tough one, I have met many people with major problems due to bad choices in diet here 9 http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/1...journalCode=ijn ) . I guess the provisio if it is done properly but then that applies to everything.

Slaughterhouses.
I have been to nice ones and some fairly grotty ones, a bolt gun to the head followed by quick chilling and so on does seem a lot nicer than some of the "ritualistic" (as in kosher/halal ritualistic) stuff that I have seen.

"vaccines are too, so what"
*points to inoculation
 
coolbho3000 said:
granville said:
That says 90% of Asians are lactose intolerant. Which is simply not true...

Yeah. The article would actually be very interesting and persuasive if it listed it's sources and wasn't so one sided. As it stands, it reads more like some hippy "meat is murder" rant.
 
im a vegitarian.

Ive been one my whole life.
I have come to know that animals don't want to die and they are just like us ,
they want to live and survive and love.
I do not believe eating meat is good just because it seems natural.
I am aware that in the wild animals kill each other and some don't (even some carnivorous animals are known to not want to kill) just like us.
I know that eating meat is in our genes because we have been eating meat for thousands of years so I do know that it is instinctive for us to want to eat meat.
But I do not believe in the statement "they are killed humanely" as I feel that any form of killing is inhumane.
I doubt many people would eat meat if they had to take the life of a kicking and squealing animal with their own hands.
 
Well I can assure anyone here that I am no radical when it comes to being a vegan. Unlike some of them I'd NEVER try to force my way onto others simply because I really DON'T think being a vegan is for everyone. I don't even hate meat much, but I don't like the things in it, the way it makes me sick sometimes, and it's just a personal food taste. I simply choose not to eat it because I enjoy other food much more. Meat in itself has good benefits, but the unhealthy aspects outweigh the good for me personally.

That site I posted about milk was the wrong one I first saw. I can't find the one I originally went to, but I agree it's not a valid source. I will tell you that I originally tried this out as a dietary experiment and attempted to drink some milk after about one month of being a vegan. The stuff was as potent for me as a large glass of liquor. Once you clense your body of certain impurities and go without something that rich for a while, your body gets used to not having it and tries to reject it. Simply put, it made me very sick.

I don't cringe if I see meat in any form or think of people in a mean way if they crunch on some KFC tenders. I've never been much of a prejudiced person. The world has enough of that kind of mentality.

Simply put yet again, I enjoy this for me and me alone. I've never felt any cravings for animal produce and never felt like I was torturing myself. I get my nutrition through diligence and health consciousness. I've never, nor will I ever, feel any anger or even a slight form of prejudice over carnivores or omnivores and I hope you choose to have the same respect for me.

I have a distaste for PETA in pretty much everything except as a source to find out what to eat and such. They are MUCH too militant, which is something I don't like at all. It may be true that I think similarly to their rudimentary ideas, but they've NO right to try to force their lifestyles on others. It's sickening.
 
I tried being a Vegetarian. No meat(not a vegan). I noticed I was gettin shorter though, and my muscles weren't developing b/c I excercised a lot. So I think it is neccesary for animal protein simply to grow. I respect your choice but I think in the long run, it is working against your bodies nature and adapting a new sense of living(little ambiguous if you know what I mean).
 
Did you eat much protein as a vegetarian? I eat high protein food all the time and am big and tall (6'4"). It's not necessarily the animal protein, animal produce just happens to be VERY high in it.

I'm a bit lax in the working out part lately.
 

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