Anti-downloading law passed in Japan

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This will either be interesting or horrifying news to follow. Thanks for posting this.
 

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Poor Japan. Wish stupid stuff like this wouldn't happen. I wouldn't want to go to jail for downloading an image off a site and it being illegal to do so. (If that is the case.)

That's just silly. I hope this falls through. Even for Anti-Piracy, this is stupid.
 

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I see two results.

1. The law is enforced. The court system overflows from backlogs and will end up like the Russian court system. Fucked up. Buildings the size of the Metropolitan Government skyscraper will be built to serve as prisons.

2. Massive backlash and protests. The law is not enforced and dropped.

Either way, big no.


This will work is the same way it already works in Japan with gambling, prostitution, (uncensored) pornography, and drugs .... you're only breaking the law if the yakuza says you are.
 

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As of tomorrow, October 3, a similar law goes into effect in our country. It's currently being petitioned though, mainly because of one of the authors of the said law was recently embroiled in "plagiarism" accusations (which, when scrutinized, holds quite accurate). Plus, the law was very vague and could put is in jail for 12 years on counts of "online libel" just for "liking and sharing" an online post that is deemed "libelous". It covers a wide array of issues concerning online though, including file-sharing and torrents.

It's gonna be a sad, sad world tomorrow for us in the Philippines. The die has been cast.
 

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I do believe government has the right to crack down on piracy but prison seems a bit much. In the US at least our prisons are already far beyond capacity because of some very silly and poorly implemented policies (the "war on drugs" thing makes even minor drug offenses fetch a prison sentence). The last thing we need are prisons filled with neckbeards for downloading some skeevy internet pornography.
 
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The thing about creating laws like this is that you create criminals.
A war on illegal downloads could be like a war on drugs, where you're putting people in jail for shit that really doesn't have THAT much of an impact.

I mean what happens when you put these people away? They can no longer financially support a god damn thing that's what.
In your effort to stop them from illegally download one thing, who knows how many other things you've stopped them from buying. Not even things like digital goods mind you but food, clothes and services.

Their intentions are clear but it'll have unintended ramifications is what I'm saying.
 
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An isp might lose some of their customers if they were known to turn in their customers for such offences. I know I would probably be looking for a new isp if that ever happened here. I know for fact that here in USA an isp needs to keep logs of what you do on internet for 3 months (last I checked a few years ago).

Oh really?
The ISP doesn't really have to do anything, but it's not like they are going to tell the government that they can't have any of the information that they ask for.
The ISP's have already shown their willingness to comply with government demands by allowing them to install snooping hardware in the ISP's own servers.
You think that the ISP's are afraid of losing customers? I doubt it?
Where are they going to go? It's not like there are an abundance of choices.
It's practically a monopoly.

Internet freedom is a myth propagated by hippies.
 

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What surprises me is the surprise being expressed by some of you. I think we should expect to see this type of legislation proliferate worldwide at an accelerated rate. If UN-member governments can routinely break the laws of the UDHR with no recourse, intellectual property (and how it's governed) becomes kind of a non-issue.
 

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Oh well, let's see how long this takes up when half the nation( 99% of whom will be the young working force) is supposed to go to jail


 

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2 things:


- Interpretation of this will go boink.. How do you differ the source as legitimate? Bittorrent is illegal? Well then you can count out Spotify from the list of legal apps, since it's close to a bittorrent client (everyone uploads and downloads the stuff while listening..). How about YouTube? The world's most used video streaming site was considered illegal before it was acquired by Google (and took note of the DMCA).

- Give everyone a legal way of doing something and you could get customers/less pirated software/media/whatever. Personally I don't see the need to download a single album as long as Spotify/similar services are operational. Same could be said for Netflix (haven't tested this, but will do so once it lands in the Cold North).

This'll just lead to people getting VPNs for everything. Just like every foreigner/quite a few Chinese in China. Bah.. The wasted tax payers' money and time for implementing something like this.
 

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I sure hope this will never happen in Australia, cause this is just plain stupid and I'm sure abuse of this law will mean a lot of people will be imprisoned because they downloaded a game.
I'll just use a proxy :P

Proxies aren't that secure, VPNs provide better anonymity. There is no way they can stop the millions upon millions of people that use VPNs and proxies.
 

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