Almost got robbed.

[TrolleyDave]

this piece of shit had not intension of shooting any one

Famous last words.

Sure, the majority only wave a gun around to scare people and wouldn't really shoot you but all it takes is one jittery moron and you're dead. The other guy is just as nervous as you are, he's twitchy and holding a deadly weapon (safety off, probably) in a shaking hand, accidents happen. And then there's the ones that really would shoot you if you try anything. Let's say there's a one in four chance you'll get shot, probably killed; is it worth the risk?

Stop telling people to provoke guys with guns.

Well said Veho mate, very well said.

Jakob, you did absolutely the right thing - well up until not calling the cops anyway. All those people saying they'd have kicked the shit out of them, how many of you have actually had a gun pulled on you? When you've had a gun pulled on you and actually been in fear of your life ending right there and then over replaceable items and do actually kick the shit out of the guy then come back and say you'd kick the shit out of them. Saying and doing are two very different things. And for those saying he wouldn't have shot them for resisting because he would have shot already, you need to go off and learn a little about the criminal mind. You don't bring unnecessary heat down on yourself so you attempt to make the robbery go as smoothly as possible. That's why you don't just shoot and take. On the other hand if somebody resists then you assert dominance, and in some cases that asserting means popping someone with a shooter. In this case I reckon a shot would have been fired, for the simple reason that he had friends with him and he would have had to maintain a reputation.

Stand up for yourself always, but if it's gonna end your life make damn sure that what you're standing up for makes a difference. Is an iPod worth dying over? Is it bollocks.

 

[FAST6191]

....I present to you Switzerland, a country with one of the lowest murder rates in the world.......

Be that as it may if you look closer into it then you will see it is somewhat of a contended point as it pertains to suicide.

CQB against firearms is an odd one and while I would sooner face one than a knife for the most part trying to disarm even a badly trained (even then that can be worse) wielder of a firearm is not something you would want to go in for if you can avoid it (good news is most people foolishly derive strength from their weapon and relieving them of it tends to give them pause for thought and that pause will cost them)-indeed most techniques I have seen focus on risk minimisation (locking their arm so it does not point at you and the like) rather than straight up disarming. I do not doubt your friends have skills but such techniques are usually reserved for the higher levels of such things (or if it is necessary for that person) and again it is usually taught as a last resort method.

Your own firearm- "governmental oppression" is an argument that you might steer clear of, while I normally rate the shooting skills of a couple of good ol' boys over that of most military units (especially the ones I have seen) I doubt it would trouble many military strategists too much. I can certainly see the reasoning behind the "if fun was illegal only the criminals would have fun" line of logic though.

Ignoring licensing costs and while it is very easy to learn to use a firearm (I will spare a history lesson but old firearms vs a bow even when the bow was a far superior weapon) to keep yourself able to use it effectively takes a considerable amount of practice/effort (range time is not cheap). This is to say nothing of being quick enough to draw it, aim it (firing from the hip while falling backwards is an effective but risky when playing where you live before anyone suggests that) and hopefully avoid contagious gunfire (a common cause of escalation). Similarly a weapon is a valuable thing in and of itself (both monetarily and as a tool)- being mugged for your weapon makes for an amusing story but little else.
Similarly while Maz7006 is correct about them not wanting a photogenic kid on the news the odds are still not worth it for the most part.

Re: "Why me?" people your age are likely to have a decent amount of disposable income and easily fenced electronics.

Re bag: not foolproof in my experience although must admit when I was running around with large sums of money (If money comes into it I am an all cash kind of guy) it was that (hidden compartment) or the would be mugger would have to feel me up (alas shoes do not work as people do get mugged for their shoes it seems).
Re: debit card- there is a reason most of us roll at least two deep to cash points and similarly I have seen people marched to cash points.

Finally while I might disagree in principle (my principle into practice history being somewhat more spotty) it is usually worth calling the filth- they do a nice line in "police presence" after that and can end up getting something done- as you seem to have found out nobody cares about muggings unless there is a string of them.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

A couple of years ago in Belgium a guy was stabbed to death just because he refused to give his MP3 player to some muggers. It wasn't even an expensive MP3 player, one from Aldi or something. So, whenever someone points a weapon at you and is trying to attack you unless you give him/her the thing he/she wants, give it. No matter what it cost. Just remember what they looked like, remember their car, every single detail, even though you are in shock. Then later on go to the police and try to explain as good as possible what happened to you, who attacked you, where you saw them go, etc.

I have only once experienced someone trying to mug me, I had a friend with me, the mugger didn't have any kind of weapon. He was reaching for my DSi (I was foolishly playing it while walking in the park) but I luckily noticed he wanted to steal it in time and could give him a kick in the nuts, then we ran as fast as we could to the nearest bus stop and immediately went home. I'll tell you, that was fucking scary, I think what you experienced must be much scarier though.

My best friend in class used to deal drugs, but then one day, he went somewhere to deal some drugs but one of the other dealers thought he was an undercover cop. My mate told me the guy pointed a massive shotgun at him, luckily he could explain well enough that he was not a cop and convince the guy to put the shotgun down. He then got out of there as fast as he could. Since then he has not ever done anything related to drugs anymore, which I'm quite glad for, although that experience might have just as well cost him his life. And a life is definitely worth much more than some stupid drugs, even if they cost him a lot of money.

 

[p5100pc3]

Dude seriously, I live in nyc too, and as much as I hate cops out here, I would have still called the cops. This shit pisses me off man...

My son was at his sitters house and one of the little girls took his DSi. I went to the sitter and the girl admitted to taking the system, and she said that she was going to bring it back. Next day she said that she never took it home (so she told my son), when I went looking for the girls parents, a few of the kids that live in her neighborhood told me, if she took it home and said she doesn't have it anymore, it's gone. Her older brother probably took it and sold it. The kids continue to tell me how her older brothers are in the Bloods gang, and they are always stealing from the kids in the neighborhood, one kids ds, another's sidekick. I said flat out I don't give a fuck who they roll with. I want my shit back!!

I confronted the little girl a few days later, and she was scared shitless, but she stood to her story. I was going to speak to her parents, but since the girl seemed to be more afraid of her brothers than doing the right thing, I let it go. I didn't want anything happening to her cuz of some punks. I did go to the cops and ask them what to do. Obviously nothing will be done, so I'm just gonna fork over the cash for a new dsi (of course hes not taking it to the sitters anymore).

Seriously, call the cops and say that its gang related, dude they will jump on it. No station in nyc wants a gang related case that remains unsolved.

But I am praying for the day I see those assholes!!!

Well I think its a little late to call the cops. The cops will call us every month and tell us to go to there offices and stuff and submit stuff and tell them stuff all the time, and that is pretty annoying. But I will see what we are going to do about this crap. By the way this happened on 108st Forest Hills.

I'm not far from ya, I'm in woodhaven! Those rat bastards will get what's coming to them, don't worry. Karma baby karma!

 

[YayMii]

Canada is the rape capitol of the world.

Reading this makes me feel unsafe.
Also, reading this reminded me of something in the news a year or 2 ago: 5 women in their 20s gang-raped a 40-yr old man who was biking in the park at the time.