Hacking AceKard team is withholding 1.4.4 Update

[Dracari]

when i tried to contact them in effor to obtain the AceKard Card FW source tolook at what needed to be patched, this was the Response

Hi,

Thank you very much for all the efforts you did to Acekard.

Well,we have finished the 1.4.4 update patch.To be honest,we just want to wait until Nintendo release a new update for 3DS.
Then potential update for 3DS may block Acekard again if we release the update patch to early,so we've been waiting.
But don't worry.We'll release it quite soon,so please just be patient for several more days.

Basicly they are waiting IF nintendo updates the 3DS No update no Love for the acekard 2i owners that updated thier DSi

http://img26.imagesh...cekardemail.png

--EDIT--
i have recived a Beta patch from Acekard however i have made a promise not to release the gam eHeader/icon they are using or the .nds. it did make AKAIO Glitch out once on Chrono Trigger once. but fine after a power cycle.

they are waiting for a "V4" of the 3DS FW update to see if this exploit's being patched.

--EDIT2--

They have released thier update for DSi 1.4.4

 

[Rydian]

What, no e621 in your bookmarks?

Anyways I wouldn't say "no love". The way that flash carts run on the DSi isn't perfect.
http://hackmii.com/2010/02/lawsuit-coming-in-3-2-1/

The number of carts they can fake themselves as is limited, so it's understandable teams don't want to "waste" exploited headers by having them patched too soon.

 

[Flame]

well that, meh.

 

[chrisrlink]

understandable if they released it now they'll (nintendo) block it in the next fw update for 3ds not bothered by it cause i have a DSL and 3DS not a DSi

 

[Dracari]

i realise they're within Rights to wait, but they seem to plan on waiting for IF the 3DS recives an update. and waiting untill then to release i dont have a beef so super much i got a DS Orginal still, but now feels like the only good my DSi's going to serve atm is just CaveStory DSiware

 

[Janthran]

This isn't the first time. Remember that last 3DS update?

 

[Another World]

they do this every time. why is this still a shock? the way the 2i works, it requires both an icon and the spoofed data inside of the bootloader. one or the other could be blocked by the next update, why waste a perfectly good exploitable rom?

with that said, why would anyone update their dsi for facebook? everything else packed in that update blocked flash kits. it was clearly not an update intended to add any real functionality to the dsi.

i'm still using 1.4.1 and i've never found a need to update. perhaps the dsi-ware transfer app, but again that was just another trick to get users to update for the exploit the dsiwarehax manipulated.... or does everyone truly believe there was no way they could allow us to register our 3ds to the same account and thus dl the same dsi-ware to our 3ds directly from the e-shop?

-another world

 

[Dracari]

sadly that was why i updated. i had snagged a used 3DS from Gamestop and was going to transfeer CaveStory over then sell the DSi off, as gamestop wasnt going to let me do that in store was "Buy now and come back later, or trade it in w/o the chance to clear it."as well to clear out the DSIWare shop account, i would of had to in the first place,

 

[bitonio6]

when i tried to contact them in effor to obtain the AceKard Card FW source tolook at what needed to be patched, this was the Response

Hi,

Thank you very much for all the efforts you did to Acekard.

Well,we have finished the 1.4.4 update patch.To be honest,we just want to wait until Nintendo release a new update for 3DS.
Then potential update for 3DS may block Acekard again if we release the update patch to early,so we've been waiting.
But don't worry.We'll release it quite soon,so please just be patient for several more days.

Basicly they are waiting IF nintendo updates the 3DS No update no Love for the acekard 2i owners that updated thier DSi

http://img26.imagesh...cekardemail.png

They do and give the 1.4.4 firmware for R4i GOLD, but not for their first product ?!

Acekard.com is not a serious team, they build and sell R4i too...
(You know, the R4i who work with "OFFICIAL" WOOD)

 

[kthnxshwn]

This is completely expected. I don't see why it's such a big problem.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

Don't people know not to update their consoles without checking for a card update first?

 

[Another World]

They do and give the 1.4.4 firmware for R4i GOLD, but not for their first product ?!

Acekard.com is not a serious team, they build and sell R4i too...
(You know, the R4i who work with "OFFICIAL" WOOD)

the r4i gold from the .cn team is a based off the galaxy eagle which is based off the plans for the actel chipped ak2i (pretty much making it an ak2i clone of sorts). beyond that there is no other connection. the r4 ultra, however, was designed, manufactured, and supported by acekard. proof of this is the 1-off build of akaio compiled by normmatt by request of acekard.

didn't they recently redesign the hardware? i vaguely recall reading an article about how the new card uses a different chip, making it more of their own design.

-another world

 

[mybluered]

when i tried to contact them in effor to obtain the AceKard Card FW source tolook at what needed to be patched, this was the Response

Hi,

Thank you very much for all the efforts you did to Acekard.

Well,we have finished the 1.4.4 update patch.To be honest,we just want to wait until Nintendo release a new update for 3DS.
Then potential update for 3DS may block Acekard again if we release the update patch to early,so we've been waiting.
But don't worry.We'll release it quite soon,so please just be patient for several more days.

Basicly they are waiting IF nintendo updates the 3DS No update no Love for the acekard 2i owners that updated thier DSi

http://img26.imagesh...cekardemail.png

They do and give the 1.4.4 firmware for R4i GOLD, but not for their first product ?!

Acekard.com is not a serious team, they build and sell R4i too...
(You know, the R4i who work with "OFFICIAL" WOOD)

In fact, r4i gold 3ds(www.r4ids.cn) release the patch by themselves. Because of the hardware difference, it's much easier for r4i gold to break the system updating. Therefore, r4i gold release the patch very soon after the system updating every time.As you know, r4i gold used the game as their V1.44 patch, which has been used by ak2i as their 3DS 3.0.0-6 patch. This means r4i has more chance when coming to the systemp updating.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

Don't people know not to update their consoles without checking for a card update first?

Apparently not.

Acekard doesn't have to release an update until they feel its a good time like the last 3DS update, just wait a bit and there will be an update for you.

 

[bitonio6]

Please guys stop saying stupidity, check firmware for R4i GOLD, they are exactly the same,
one for DSL one for DSi...

For a while, Acekard firmware contained both, Firmware for R4i and firmware for Ak2i

Dont forget the R4i Ultra, another R4i from Acekard team !


I dont understand here, why, if they have already a solution 1.4.4 for Ak2i,
why they dont put it online, it's the choice of the customers to wait or not
for a 3DS new firmware solution, no?!

And not anybody have a 3DS, so they dont care about new firmware about 3DS,
what they want, is a solution for their DSi console = 1.4.4

 

[EyeZ]

I dont understand here, why, if they have already a solution 1.4.4 for Ak2i,
why they dont put it online, it's the choice of the customers to wait or not
for a 3DS new firmware solution, no?!

And not anybody have a 3DS, so they dont care about new firmware about 3DS,
what they want, is a solution for their DSi console = 1.4.4

That actually makes sense.

 

[Rydian]

What about the people that have a 3DS bit don't have a DSi? They don't care about DSi updates but do care about 3DS updates.

 

[Psy-Phi]

If you updated without confirming that your flashcart works with the new firmware, that's on YOU. Not the AceKard team. If there's a new feature in the firmware that you want, you wait if you want to continue to use the homebrew, or you update and get the new stuff, and hope retroactively that the homebrew catches up. It's about what you prefer to use.

A team holding back an exploit is very good, shows that the team is looking out for the people. They warn their customers not to update when new firmware comes up. If you choose to, don't expect the development teams to release an update that will then expose the exploit to the device manufacturer, letting them patch it out of their next update.

It's a game of cat and mouse.

 

[bitonio6]

What about the people that have a 3DS bit don't have a DSi? They don't care about DSi updates but do care about 3DS updates.

My God... 3DS is in 3.0.0-6, so you have your firmware, you can play with your AK2i, so what is your point here?
Next time, i will interested by your reaction, if a 4.0.0-7 will go out for 3DS, and the team will said:
We have already a firmware to fix 4.0.0-7 compatibility, but we wait for the next DSi firmware before offer to you a final solution !?

And i repeat, why they dont wait for their R4i products ???

 

[Another World]

And i repeat, why they dont wait for their R4i products ???

please stop passing around false rumors that you feel are correct based on your assumptions. because 1 flash kit uses an icon and another uses it, that does not means they were released from the same team.

i have been in contact with the .cn team since rydian was assigned the review. i have had many, many, many emails with them. i have discussed, in depth, the details of how their kit works, how the exploits work, etc.

the r4i gold .cn team and the acekard team ARE NOT ONE IN THE SAME.

the .cn team started out as a larger team, working with the r4igold.com website. they had differences of opinion and moved on to making a new card. the .com card (and its 2nd revision) are heavily based on the ak2i actel chip design, as sold by acekard to anyone with the desire to make their own card. the .cn card has seen a few revision to adjust the way in which the bootloader works. this is why each new revision no longer supported the older revision. ie: you were forced to update to new hardware if you wanted the card to run on the new systems. --- sorry... might be incorrect info. need to double check my notes.

please accept this and move on. your debate is irrelevant as its based on assumption and not fact.

bootloaders for the clones can be identical as the clones are clones of clones based on the ak2i actel chip design. if one team makes a fix, that team can then pass on the fix to another team, who can make a small alteration so it runs on their card. in fact, if you removed the ak2i checks you could probably get their bootloader running on most of the ak2i actel chip clones.

if you want to discuss facts, then we would be discussing the r4 ultra. as i already stated, that card IS MADE BY ACEKARD. it was designed, manufactured, and supported by them. it was an attempt to reach more of the market place. there is even a 1-off build of akaio officially compiled by normmatt.

-another world