Gaming A way to pass the ambassadors program

[nano351]

It's not in any way possible. Maybe thats how the Wii Shop was, but that's DEFINITELY not how the eShop is. Just like sergster said, I can't set my date back a week from now and expect it to look like it did last week. It doesn't work that way. It will never work that way. If it did work that way? I would denounce Nintendo as an intelligent company and shoot myself in the foot. Your proof is irrelevant because the Wii Shop is an older and COMPLETELY different shop. Most likely it logs your 3DS ID in the server and the day you logged into the eShop, and by August 12th the server shuts down so anyone who didn't participate CAN'T participate, regardless of changing the date on your 3DS.

No one's actually provided any proof that any information about your system is transmitted to nintendo servers when you connect to eShop/download content. Changing your clock doesn't magically make content available, it removes internal blocks in the software stopping you from requesting the content. If the content is still on the servers then you could get it, if not then you can't.

There's very much reason for nintendo to have done the eShop totally different than the wii shop due to the vast piracy that occurred with the wii shop's setup. However until there's real proof presented that the eShop does function differently (logs of requests/data transferred) we can't know for certain how it functions and what is possible.

 

[FireGrey]

hmm, i got an idea, when the drop happens buy a pre-owned 3DS, genius

 

[uriyasama]

yea they're about the wii and they show Nintendo's possible online system pattern

 

[Deleted User]

Anyhow, anyway- don't cheat the system.

 

[sergster1]

It's not in any way possible. Maybe thats how the Wii Shop was, but that's DEFINITELY not how the eShop is. Just like sergster said, I can't set my date back a week from now and expect it to look like it did last week. It doesn't work that way. It will never work that way. If it did work that way? I would denounce Nintendo as an intelligent company and shoot myself in the foot. Your proof is irrelevant because the Wii Shop is an older and COMPLETELY different shop. Most likely it logs your 3DS ID in the server and the day you logged into the eShop, and by August 12th the server shuts down so anyone who didn't participate CAN'T participate, regardless of changing the date on your 3DS.

No one's actually provided any proof that any information about your system is transmitted to nintendo servers when you connect to eShop/download content. Changing your clock doesn't magically make content available, it removes internal blocks in the software stopping you from requesting the content. If the content is still on the servers then you could get it, if not then you can't.

There's very much reason for nintendo to have done the eShop totally different than the wii shop due to the vast piracy that occurred with the wii shop's setup. However until there's real proof presented that the eShop does function differently (logs of requests/data transferred) we can't know for certain how it functions and what is possible.

Obviously it DOES send console data to nintendo's servers as ALL titles you dl from them are console locked as in I cant take my SD card from my current 3DS and put it into another 3DS and hope to play all the games I have on my original one. The ONLY way to transfer content between 3DS's is to use the transfer tool in the sys settings which I assume revoke your current 3DS's rights to the titles and gives the new 3DS's access to the title. Plus the god damn EASIEST way to realize it send your unique console id to the server is that nintendo doesnt ask you for a log in id and password everytime you access the eshop. This shows each title is locked to YOUR specific console id and they DO store some id's on their server.

 

[hundshamer]

You're fighting with Wii proof. The Wii's security is a joke, and the 3DS is considerably more secure (otherwise we would have a 3DS homebrew channel). I think in the last 4 years Nintendo has learned from it's past mistakes. In terms of electronics 4 years is an eternity. Electronics generally double in power (and complexity) every 2 years. Alot has changed since the Wii Shop was released.

 

[gamefan5]

You're fighting with Wii proof. The Wii's security is a joke, and the 3DS is considerably more secure (otherwise we would have a 3DS homebrew channel). I think in the last 4 years Nintendo has learned from it's past mistakes. In terms of electronics 4 years is an eternity. Electronics generally double in power (and complexity) every 2 years. Alot has changed since the Wii Shop was released.

Agreed. I don't think it's going to be the same anyway. So, I will not believe this UNTIL someone has ACTUAL PROOF it works.

 

[gamefan5]

yea they're about the wii and they show Nintendo's possible online system pattern

You're right. They do show a possible online system pattern... for the Wii.

 

[uriyasama]

the 3DS homebrew channel wasn't a good example we need more time before someone finds some findings.
there still isn't too much info about the 3DS's security system so I'm still optimistic.

 

[jonesman99]

Anyhow, anyway- don't cheat the system.

This...

Well... looks like its time to lock this thread because your proof is not helping your case. I still think that when you log on to online (and I think this goes with any console, if im not mistaken) it automatically updates the time of your internal clock, to whatever the universal time is in your area, making your reversing time theory irrelevant.

 

[machomuu]

Why are you turning down the proofs I give to you?
I'm telling you nintendo has done this mistake already in the past and you won't listen to me

Great, now give me proof that The Animal Crossing DLC and these games work the same.

 

[sadak5]

You are telling that you found a proff from the Wii. I you theory is correct (that the problem still persists), then the DSi shop has the same flaw, then, if I change the date to before they removed the Sudokuhax DSi ware, then I will be able to get it.

Also, the first case you prepared is a lot easier than you think.
1) In august 12, they backup the database of the already connected systems (storing ID, MAC adress, or any info they use to identify the system)
2) if you nothe, the free games will be available until september first, so, they place the DB in other (Server, place, resource), and modify the eshop to check if you exist in that DB
3) When the games are released, they update the eshop (as they do every tuesday) to check in the other DB.

That's using human resources (to backup the DB). Using a program (I'm a programmer) can be done Alot easier.

Also, the proff you give is for a shop that ninty hardly updates (not the games, the internal system) nowadays. The infrastucture hasn't changed in a lot of time. If they change it, they will need a major update to the wii system, as that the wii is in it's last "words", then you get an old and outdated infrastructure

 

[uriyasama]

It's a theory for god sake!!!
i have a lot of info and I tie it together with a maybe on it!



Edit: NVM I got angry without thinking and I was fighting everyone who didn't have thoughts like me, that was a stupid thing to do espically concerned a lot of people criticized it without rejecting it

 

[Weaselpipe]

Is this STILL going?!
As an early adopter these 'lets get the free games and the price cut' schemes are pretty annoying

Nintendo: to make people feel better about paying £80 more, we will give them something free
Consumer: I want the free thing AND the discount, you selfish company

 

[uriyasama]

Is this STILL going?!
As an early adopter these 'lets get the free games and the price cut' schemes are pretty annoying

Nintendo: to make people feel better about paying £80 more, we will give them something free
Consumer: I want the free thing AND the discount, you selfish company

LOL

I would gladly pay the 250$ for the 20 games. but sadly I am unable, I'm going to get enough money for that only at the end of the month. So I'm trying to get it another way

 

[machomuu]

It's a theory for god sake!!!
i have a lot of info and I tie it together with a maybe on it!



Edit: NVM I got angry without thinking and I was fighting everyone who didn't have thoughts like me, that was a stupid thing to do espically concerned a lot of people criticized it without rejecting it

Here's the thing, if you make a theory the only way to learn the truth is through research and criticism of said theory.

 

[sergster1]

Is this STILL going?!
As an early adopter these 'lets get the free games and the price cut' schemes are pretty annoying

Nintendo: to make people feel better about paying £80 more, we will give them something free
Consumer: I want the free thing AND the discount, you selfish company

LOL

I would gladly pay the 250$ for the 20 games. but sadly I am unable, I'm going to get enough money for that only at the end of the month. So I'm trying to get it another way

Then get a god damn USED 3DS and use that. Jesus these threads REALLY piss me off. You guys dont seem to understand this is nintendo's way of apologizing to their fans.

 

[ninditsu]

...connect* to the Nintendo eShop at least once before 11:59 p.m. Eastern/8:59 p.m. Pacific time on Aug. 11, 2011. You will be registered as a 3DS Ambassador.

Starting Sept. 1, Ambassadors will be able to download...

I guess they have a lot of time to confirm whether or not you bought the 3DS before August 12.
August 11 is just ambassador registration date.

 

[gamefan5]

You are telling that you found a proff from the Wii. I you theory is correct (that the problem still persists), then the DSi shop has the same flaw, then, if I change the date to before they removed the Sudokuhax DSi ware, then I will be able to get it.

Also, the first case you prepared is a lot easier than you think.
1) In august 12, they backup the database of the already connected systems (storing ID, MAC adress, or any info they use to identify the system)
2) if you nothe, the free games will be available until september first, so, they place the DB in other (Server, place, resource), and modify the eshop to check if you exist in that DB
3) When the games are released, they update the eshop (as they do every tuesday) to check in the other DB.

That's using human resources (to backup the DB). Using a program (I'm a programmer) can be done Alot easier.

Also, the proff you give is for a shop that ninty hardly updates (not the games, the internal system) nowadays. The infrastucture hasn't changed in a lot of time. If they change it, they will need a major update to the wii system, as that the wii is in it's last "words", then you get an old and outdated infrastructure

This. ^

 

[Pippin666]

It doesn't matter what your 3DS internal clock says, the only way to get the ambassador status is to log into the eshop before the actual date of August 12th. Once Nintendo pulls the plug on their end, it won't matter what date your 3DS says.

If your logic were true, I'd change the clock and calendar on my computer to Sept 9 and go buy me Starfox right now.

Don't try to be a wise ass because you miserably failed. He is simply stating that if it worked "in some way" on the Wii, the guy thought it could be done the same on the 3DS.

Pip'