1. 6OwO7UwU8

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    is this as safe as incogneato?
     
  2. hippy dave

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    In terms of ban protection, yes it's as safe, as long as you do the test to make sure it's working and your ISP isn't bypassing it.

    In terms of your Switch's safety, it's safer than incognito, because it doesn't wipe irreplaceable data from the eMMC, and rely on the user to keep a backup (it's sad every time another user posts about having lost their backup and knowing another Switch is permanently damaged).
     
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    Hi, just a quick question and it can be really dumb but i'm probably gonna hack my switch soon and I don't plan to use internet at all on my emunand. It is possible to put the 90dns settings on my switch without connecting to internet/doing the test ? Just to put 90 dns in case if I put my switch on the dock with the lan cable connected ?




    But if we are wiping some irreplaceable data from emunand where is the problem ? It also affect the sysnand ?
     
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    It has been done to people with system nand, there is a reason almost every single guide starts with Make a backup before you do anything else
     
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    edit : ohh ok you was answering my very last sentence, sorry, so if I do a backup of my sysnand and I remove infos with incognito on my emunand, it is touching my sysnand too ?
     
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  6. Adran_Marit

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    Okay so 90DNS can be set on a few levels

    1 - on the device, in this case the switch, (going to be honest dunno about wired adaptor) but manually entering the settings
    2 - on your gateway device (modem/router that connects to the internet) this blocks everything on your whole network wired or wireless

    For you, it sounds like your best bet would be to make a console backup if you haven't already, setup emunand, and then set both 90dns AND Incognito on your emunand, so that it is an extra safeguard, does that make sense?
     
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    yeah I understand now, I don't own an hacked switch yet but when I will hack mine in a couple of month I will try to do both solutions and use incognito, but I heard there is a lot of incognito version, one of atmosphere, one of tinfoil, ect, do you know which one should I use ?
     
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    Either/both iirc they both function the same way now

    the most important thing before you load CFW, before creating the Emunand is to make a complete nand backup and store it in a few safe places (this includes your keys)
     
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    Yeah I plan to do this it would be a shame to get in a position where i'm self banned because of the info I have burned with incognito or worse : bricked without nand backup. Thanks a lot for the answers and having been with my misunderstanding ^_^
     
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    all good sorry I can't help about the docking it and using lan part
     
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    It would be a better idea to use the Atmosphere implementation of Incognito because it does not permanently affect your emunand or sysnand. You don't need a backup, like you do with the Tinfoil one.
     
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    But I will need to use the incognito from atmosphere every time I want to use my emunand ?
    Or it's a thing I can toggle on and off ?
     
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    It's just a toggle that stays in your SD card. You don't need to turn it back on every time you boot into emunand.
     
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    Oh wow then it's great I will use it
     
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    would you consider it save to use 90dns plus exosphere.ini blank prodinfo. becuase i dont want to use incognito (tinfoil) at all
     
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    Yes. Atmosphere's prodinfo blanking makes actual wiping of prodinfo obsolete and unnecessary (and it was always too dangerous to recommend generally when so many people don't seem capable of keeping backups). 90dns is safe too, so that plus Atmosphere's setting is doubly safe.
     
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    how do you blank prodinfo through atmosphere?
     
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    Set exosphere to "1" in the ini file.

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    So i wont get banned if I homebrew and use this to go online?

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    So i wont get banned if i use this even if i use freeshop
     
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