Hardware 3DS (real) Hardware Specs

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The 3DS is since 24 hours officially out and in wild maybe 3-4 days.
Could anyone find (maybe on a Chinese hacker Forum) some Specs, which Nintendo didn't want to confirm?

How much RAM?What are they using for an ARM?Dual-Core?How fast is it?Which PICA 200? etc.
 

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moodswinger said:
There was a leak of an opened 3DS I think last month. I think that thread has some information.

There was nothing interesting in that thread on 3DS' CPU and GPU.
There was one screenshot saying "96 MB of memory", however it was a development unit, so the amount of memory might be different in the end.
 

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moodswinger said:
There was a leak of an opened 3DS I think last month. I think that thread has some information.

yea, I know, but as pachura said, nothing really new, also 96 MB might be just for devkits.
 

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There is no PICA200 anywhere on the motherboard. It must be INSIDE/or a part of the Nintendo/Arm CPU.
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_...0110228/189957/
PS these photos are from YESTERDAY.
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the Board looks pretty, don't you think?
 

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"At this point, we could not find the main CPU"

If it's anything like the DS, it'll be underneath the slot for the DS game. I pulled my old DS phat apart last night and underneath the silver tray for the cartrige there was a small black square that said "CPU NTR ARM". Maybe the 3DS's is located in the same spot, however it requires some un-soldering... which no one probably wants to do to their brand new 3DS lol.

I'm interested in finding out too.
 

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MADKATZ99 said:
"At this point, we could not find the main CPU"

If it's anything like the DS, it'll be underneath the slot for the DS game. I pulled my old DS phat apart last night and underneath the silver tray for the cartrige there was a small black square that said "CPU NTR ARM". Maybe the 3DS's is located in the same spot, however it requires some un-soldering... which no one probably wants to do to their brand new 3DS lol.

I'm interested in finding out too.
You didn't finish reading did you?

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_...0110301/189976/ QUOTEAfter briefly examining the top and back sides of the main board, we realized an important thing: We could not find the main CPU. There was only one possibility left: under the slot for game cartridges. There were many passive components embedded on the back of the slot.

We managed to remove the slot, which was firmly fixed on the board, by using a soldering iron, etc. Then, the main CPU of the 3DS printed with the characters "Nintendo" and "ARM" appeared. A chip found next to the CPU was printed with "F JAPAN" and "M82M808080." It seemed to be Fujitsu Semiconductor Ltd's FCRAM.
 

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bigpaws said:
thats only rumored specs
The specs mentioned in that article were reported by game journalism vet Craig Harris, who has deep industry ties (he knows developers). Since Nintendo doesn't report tech specs anymore, this info is as good as it's gonna get.
 

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Snailface said:
bigpaws said:
thats only rumored specs
The specs mentioned in that article were reported by game journalism vet Craig Harris, who has deep industry ties (he knows developers). Since Nintendo doesn't report tech specs anymore, this info is as good as it's gonna get.
I hate to be an ass about this, but IGN and their staff are not a reliable source of information. Only counting recent reports, they initially reported that the 3DS (then "DS2") would use Nvidia Tegra. That turned out to be bull. They also made some assumptions that the 3DS wouldn't cost over $200. We know how that turned out (and Craig reported it). They also stated that the 3DS was as powerful as the PS3 or 360 (which was laughable from the very beginning they reported it as it was obviously not true). Less recently, they originally reported that the then-newly announced DSi would have two touchscreens (as in two screens both supporting touch controls). They later changed the article, but the damage was done).

IGN is disliked for a reason. They tend to put out false information. There are more incidences recently just about the 3DS that i can't recall, but the ones above are the ones i can recall off the top of my head. I wouldn't take anything they say seriously until i get confirmation from more reputable sources. They claim to get insider information and yet their "informants" apparently lead them astray. More likely they're either receiving bollocks information, or they make up crap and pretend that developers give them the scoop. We shall see if their information was true for this. Just don't trust them until proven correct.
 

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granville said:
Snailface said:
bigpaws said:
thats only rumored specs
The specs mentioned in that article were reported by game journalism vet Craig Harris, who has deep industry ties (he knows developers). Since Nintendo doesn't report tech specs anymore, this info is as good as it's gonna get.
I hate to be an ass about this, but IGN and their staff are not a reliable source of information. Only counting recent reports, they initially reported that the 3DS (then "DS2") would use Nvidia Tegra. That turned out to be bull. They also made some assumptions that the 3DS wouldn't cost over $200. We know how that turned out (and Craig reported it). They also stated that the 3DS was as powerful as the PS3 or 360 (which was laughable from the very beginning they reported it as it was obviously not true). Less recently, they originally reported that the then-newly announced DSi would have two touchscreens (as in two screens both supporting touch controls). They later changed the article, but the damage was done).

IGN is disliked for a reason. They tend to put out false information. There are more incidences recently just about the 3DS that i can't recall, but the ones above are the ones i can recall off the top of my head. I wouldn't take anything they say seriously until i get confirmation from more reputable sources. They claim to get insider information and yet their "informants" apparently lead them astray. More likely they're either receiving bollocks information, or they make up crap and pretend that developers give them the scoop. We shall see if their information was true for this. Just don't trust them until proven correct.
I think you should be smart enough not to peg an entire website to one man. Craig has been away from IGN for about two months now. And I give you some of those were ridiculous but most weren't reported by Craig. And more importantly they were never reported as fact. The always stated it was from outside sources so take it as you will. If you, like most people, took that as "OMG confirmed!" thats your fault. They hear it and let every know so they can be on the same level as them. I trust Craig's info if its truly from him. Im not protecting IGN though. Craig has my respect but IGN as a whole lost my trust awhile ago.
 

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So they've taken some ARM processor and put it together with Pica200 in one chip.

I am wondering... if Nintendo doesn't publish the actual specs (why would they, they would look bad on paper when compared to NGP), is it technically possible to somehow extract the specs ? This is a completely custom, proprietary SoC - a black box... I guess 3DS developers would need to leak them.
 

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pachura said:
So they've taken some ARM processor and put it together with Pica200 in one chip.

I am wondering... if Nintendo doesn't publish the actual specs (why would they, they would look bad on paper when compared to NGP), is it technically possible to somehow extract the specs ? This is a completely custom, proprietary SoC - a black box... I guess 3DS developers would need to leak them.

Wii CPU specs are still speculation, so I'm really wondering if we will know whats inside the 3DS.
 

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ManFranceGermany said:
Wii CPU specs are still speculation, so I'm really wondering if we will know whats inside the 3DS.

When 3DS is hacked and homebrew is possible, maybe some kind of benchmark software could be ran to determine CPU's speed, Pica's abilities etc.
 

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