Hacking 3DS Hack: "We hacked it"

[metroid maniac]

Wait wait wait, so... the private keys aren't stored into the console? XD

You need the Nintendo private key to sign cartridges, and you also need the console-specific SD key to sign SD card content.

 

[gamefan5]

You need the Nintendo private key to sign cartridges, and you also need the console-specific SD key to sign SD card content.

That doesn't answer my question. I know what the keys do.

 

[Shubshub]

That doesn't answer my question. I know what the keys do.

We don't know wether the key's are on the 3DS if they are then Getting them should be easy once the chips decapped

 

[Shubshub]

That doesn't answer my question. I know what the keys do.

We don't know wether the key's are on the 3DS if they are then Getting them should be easy once the chips decapped

 

[gamefan5]

Well, what private keys are you referring to? Because there would be no reason for SD encryption to be asymmetric, they could use a single key...

... I just asked if the private keys are stored in the 3DS or not.*facepalm. Most of the time, they are, and yet Sifjar said they aren't So I wanted to be sure.

 

[metroid maniac]

... I just asked if the private keys are stored in the 3DS or not.*facepalm. Most of the time, they are, and yet Sifjar said they aren't So I wanted to be sure.

Nintendo has the private key, each 3DS has the public key.

 

[gamefan5]

Nintendo has the private key, each 3DS has the public key.

Ok so they didn't make the same mistake like Sony. Thx.

 

[Shubshub]

Ok so they didn't make the same mistake like Sony. Thx.

What mistake did sony make?

 

[chrisrlink]

What mistake did sony make?

If i recall they stored both keys on the ps3 but as of 3.56+ the private keys are encrypted with a high end algorithm one that we have A .000000000000000000000001% chance of cracking we need the algo key and the private key to sign cfw/homebrew again for 3.56+ ofw

 

[Shubshub]

If i recall they stored both keys on the ps3 but as of 3.56+ the private keys are encrypted with a high end algorithm one that we have A .000000000000000000000001% chance of cracking we need the algo key and the private key to sign cfw/homebrew again for 3.56+ ofw

So PS3 has no Homebrew again yet?

 

[chrisrlink]

and don't say the lv 0 keys solved it cause you can only go up to higher cfw cause we have the unencrypted key for 3.55 and below the other way you can update the cfw is by installing over a current cfw on your ps3

 

[chrisrlink]

yes shub even though we have the actual prvt keys its useless w/o the algo key now

 

[gamefan5]

What mistake did sony make?

Storing the private keys into the console so it could be found by hackers (Fail0verflow). Which means that they could sign unofficial content with it on any PS3, which means that the console itself wouldn't even need to be hacked. Not only that, if the key were to be changed, it would render old games useless since the games that were signed before wouldn't be compatible with the new key.
The private key was later posted by a hacker named geohot, later Sony sued both the hacker and Fail0verflow.
I don't think it's been fixed... although I am NOT SURE if it has been fixed at all!

Edit: it's been fixed as now they are heavily encrypted apparently. Which makes it harder to crack. XD

 

[chrisrlink]

sorry for going off topic here but i wanted to prove something written earlier

 

[Vappy]

As far as I remember, the private keys weren't actually stored on the PS3. Sony just botched their encryption algorithm in a way that let f0f guys calculate the key from other known values.

Not only that, if the key were to be changed, it would render old games useless since the games that were signed before wouldn't be compatible with the new key.

Newer firmwares had a different private key, and a whitelist of all software signed with the old key.

 

[chrisrlink]

Storing the private keys into the console so it could be found by hackers (Fail0verflow). Which means that they could sign unofficial content with it on any PS3ot only that, if the key were to be changed, it would render old games useless since the games that were signed, which means that the console itself wouldn't even need to be hacked. N before wouldn't be compatible with the new key.
The private key was later posted by a hacker named geohot, later Sony sued both the hacker and Fail0verflow.
I don't think it's been fixed... although I am NOT SURE if it has been fixed at all!

Edit: it's been fixed as now they are heavily encrypted apparently. Which makes it harder to crack. XD

yes is changed somewhat at 3.56+ they implimented a blacklist and white list so older games will work but unoffical brew wouldn't

 

[chrisrlink]

Offtopic yeah sony sued probably bribed the judge also but it can never be proven

 

[SifJar]

... I just asked if the private keys are stored in the 3DS or not.*facepalm. Most of the time, they are, and yet Sifjar said they aren't So I wanted to be sure.

"most of the time, they are" - no they aren't. That would completely defeat the point of assymetric encryption. The only time private keys were stored on a console was some of the PSP keys being stored on the PS3.

 

[chrisrlink]

uh anyway this is a 3ds topic get back on topic

 

[gamefan5]

"most of the time, they are" - no they aren't. That would completely defeat the point of assymetric encryption. The only time private keys were stored on a console was some of the PSP keys being stored on the PS3.

Oh ok. Thx for correcting me. XD

 

[chrisrlink]

so your saying the Wii U maybe the same nah nintendo ain't that stupid

 

[chrisrlink]

btw we might not need the private keys, all we need are the public and SD keys even to run roms off the SD card simmilar to running isos off of the psp's MS