Hacking 3DS Hack: "We hacked it"

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Wow, the post-count has jumped up.
If this does turn out to be real and lead to homebrew, I personally can't wait for the emulators. I'd love to be able to have game channels installed for the stuff that doesn't make it to the eShop. :D
It is real just wait they will release more information soon.
 

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I thought the Hack required a game of the eShop why do we need to re-flash our flashcarts.

And don't worry Nintendo will never do something sneaky.

Ah, no see the point is that if you successfully exploit your system to install a homebrew launcher, but the exploit is fixed by a firmware update, then hopefully already exploited titles can remain exploited.
If an exploit is no long usable, the least you can do is keep your homebrew launcher title intact by changing it enough, or making it unique in that it won't be removed by a firmware update. If your homebrew launcher is pruned during the firmware update and you have no exploit to reinstall it, you're screwed.
That way you can also hope to still continue using online play or the eShop as well.
 

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Ah, no see the point is that if you successfully exploit your system to install a homebrew launcher, but the exploit is fixed by a firmware update, then hopefully already exploited titles can remain exploited.
If an exploit is no long usable, the least you can do is keep your homebrew launcher title intact by changing it enough, or making it unique in that it won't be removed by a firmware update. If your homebrew launcher is pruned during the firmware update and you have no exploit to reinstall it, you're screwed.
That way you can also hope to still continue using online play or the eShop as well.

So lets say if I use this hack it might brick my 3DS if I UPDATE IT, right :mellow:
 

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So lets say if I use this hack it might brick my 3DS if I UPDATE IT, right :mellow:
I don't think you've really grasped anything I've said.

No basically in the past on the Wii, they have had to find new exploits to install the homebrew channel, or prevent the homebrew channel from being purged during a Wii system firmware update.

A 3DS homebrew launcher needs to assume that:
- The exploit will become unavailable, possibly very quickly.
- An installed homebrew launcher title on the home menu would be purged by a firmware update

So in order to update a 3DS but still retain a homebrew launcher
- The homebrew launcher must be able to alter its header/title information so it is not identified by a blacklist that purges unauthorised changes
- Ideally the HBL's header can be generated to be unique to the system
- The ability to change the header should be easily done through the HBL itself
 

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So my girlfriend wants to buy a 3ds but she doesn't have the money. Will she be able to hack it at a later version?
 

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So my girlfriend wants to buy a 3ds but she doesn't have the money. Will she be able to hack it at a later version?


Exploit is in the software nothing done to hardware unless they changed the 3DS 512 bit key which in my opinion is expensive.(I'm not an expert on the topic discretion is advised but I think I'm good enough)
 

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Exploit is in the software nothing done to hardware unless they changed the 3DS 512 bit key which in my opinion is expensive.
I thought the exploit they found was in an eShop title that could be removed from the store?
The time they found an exploitable DSi title like EA's Sudoku, a few people were able to download the vulnerable title before Nintendo purged it.
 

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I thought the exploit they found was in an eShop title that could be removed from the store?
The time they found an exploitable DSi title like EA's Sudoku, a few people were able to download the vulnerable title before Nintendo purged it.


But that means it's the software of the 3DS it self the game is just a fake tickt to let it pass the security check,by the way I never witnessed the DS eShop hack I arrived by the time they created the R4 and TTDs , so do they follow the same principles.
 

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I heard it was confirmed that it is indeed a exploit in a cartridge.
I'm curious, heard it where?

If that's true then it should be much easier to secure an exploitable cartridge, unlike an eShop title which would be quickly removed.
However it could also mean you need some way to alter the cartridge's save data, such as an R4i Save Dongle.
 

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So say that the 3DS does get hacked, would this make flashcarts obsolete since you could just run shit from the SD card? If so, then this is very great news indeed.
 

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I'm curious, heard it where?

If that's true then it should be much easier to secure an exploitable cartridge, unlike an eShop title which would be quickly removed.
However it could also mean you need some way to alter the cartridge's save data, such as an R4i Save Dongle.

It was confirmed in this thread
 

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So say that the 3DS does get hacked, would this make flashcarts obsolete since you could just run shit from the SD card? If so, then this is very great news indeed.
Actually that depends on what can be done from the SD card, and also how the guys at 3DSbrew decide to release anything.
They may take measures to prevent backup loading or piracy.

But on the other hand, some flashcart manufacturers may try to reverse engineer the exploit, and if successful start producing their own flashcarts in order to turn a profit.

After all, a soft-mod that does not require any specialised hardware (except possibly a USB save dongle) is not very profitable.
 
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