360 Slim turns off to prevent red ring

Discussion in 'User Submitted News' started by Guild McCommunist, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. Guild McCommunist

    Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    May 6, 2009
    United States
    The Danger Zone


    Yeah. I still like the whole "keep in a cool, dry place" method.
  2. iFish

    iFish Slower than a 90s modem

    Jul 11, 2009
    Montreal, QC
    I keep my PS3 on the pool! is that dry enough [​IMG]

    Well.... if this is software... shouldn't the old 360 do it aswell..... i don't think hardware makes this do it.

    Or maybe that added a heat sensor. who knows
  3. Crimsonclaw111

    Crimsonclaw111 GBAtemp Fan

    Apr 7, 2010
    United States
    It's about time.
  4. monkat

    monkat I'd like to see you TRY to ban me. (Should I try?.

    May 21, 2009
    United States
    Well, it's obviously software that turns it off if it displays a message like that, but if they could have added it to the old iteration, they would have, so I'm sure they added a heat sensor.
  5. tk_saturn

    tk_saturn GBAtemp Psycho!

    Jan 26, 2010
    The 360 has been through several iterations, I really can't what would have stopped them from adding a heat sensor to the Falcon or Jasper.

    Unless they are able to determine the air resistance of the processor fan from the RPM etc in combination of heat of the processor.

    Or they could have heat sensors measuring the temperture of air being drawn into the case, rather than the processor temperture. Then have a sensor measuring the exhaust temperture, and it could compare the difference.
  6. Theraima

    Theraima I own this desert, bitches!

    Jan 4, 2009
    Now they'll die when theyre powered down [​IMG] some kind of error when they are shut down itself XD
  7. iamthemilkman

    iamthemilkman GBAtemp Fan

    Apr 5, 2010
    United States
    The older PS3's also did this. Not sure about my Slim, though.
  8. snico1995

    snico1995 GBAtemp Regular

    Mar 13, 2010
    United States
    shouldn't all 360s have heat sensors so the fan knows when to turn on?
  9. gameboy13

    gameboy13 Orange and fluffy since 1995.

    Mar 21, 2010
    United States
    The Fur Side.
    This is pretty neat. Too bad they already implemented something similar in laptops and desktop PCs.
  10. luke_c

    luke_c Big Boss

    Jun 16, 2008
    Land of England
    How's that a bad thing?

    Great to see Microsoft actually attempting to solve the issue for once, my 360 Slim buy is starting to get even more justified! [​IMG]

    EDIT: Ninja edit [​IMG]
  11. Goli

    Goli RPG

    Jul 16, 2008
    Cote d'Ivoire
    I always turned mine off when I wasn't using it, so i guess I wasn't tthat concerned about it.
    But I don't have a 360 now so I don't care [​IMG].
  12. Uncle FEFL


    Sep 7, 2009
    United States
    PM me for Social Security information
    I'm sure they all do. It's a nice feature.
  13. Skyline969

    Skyline969 MENUdo Afficionado

    Nov 18, 2008
    Yeah, if mine gets too hot it just shuts off without telling me. Without saving anything. REALLY helpful if I'm, say, typing a huge essay for college. [​IMG]
    I'm glad this at least tells you it's shutting off for that reason, and you don't have important work on an Xbox 360. C'mon, being in the middle of a match in BC2 and MW2 is NOT important work. [​IMG]
  14. Elritha

    Elritha GBAtemp Addict

    Jan 24, 2006
    The older 360s have heat sensors in them. Freestyle Dash is able to show several temperatures such as gpu, cpu, ram and so on. It'd be very easy to have it auto shutdown through software after a certain threshold has been met.
  15. tk_saturn

    tk_saturn GBAtemp Psycho!

    Jan 26, 2010
    This could still be something different from the PS3.

    The fan is either directly sucking in or blowing air out of the case. If the ventilation is not sufficient, the RPM on the fan will be lower. The Slim could be able to determine if there is insufficient airflow when it powers on from the RPM of the fan.

    It does explicity mention insufficient ventilation in the error message. Also read the text in the background of the image.
  16. kamins

    kamins Member

    Feb 27, 2010
    The non slim 360s do shutdown but only when temperature is above critical, without a warning and leaving you with two blinking red lights.
  17. omgpwn666

    omgpwn666 Guy gamer and proud!

    Jun 14, 2008
    United States
    Microsoft is so weird to release a console in the first place that they knew would break often, I'm sure when they were testing they ran into a couple of hardware fails and released anyways. I have a Xbox 360 that I play and enjoy but it's the fact they did that confuses me and I'm sure it confuses some others, hard to make money with a bad name. On topic now, good call on the automatic shut downs, their should be a lot less complaints about red ring of death now since the consumers know it's their fault if it breaks (since it's due to bad ventilation... Or is it!?).
  18. DeltaBurnt

    DeltaBurnt I'm bored

    Feb 21, 2009
    United States
    Where intellect matters
    This will most likely just piss off most of the people trying to play their Halo 3 or COD for 12 hours straight.
  19. RupeeClock

    RupeeClock Colors 3D Snivy!

    May 15, 2008
    Theoretically, isn't the shutdown totally unnecessary?
    All it should take is to temporarily halt CPU processes and activity, and let the CPU cool off. Then you can resume gameplay.

    Seriously my PC's CPU idles at 36c and works at 52c under load, and it cools off very quickly. As soon as activity stops the CPU drops to 42c.

    Better yet, actually educate your consumers about CPU temperatures and proper operation, and put a temperate meter on the dashboard, that will solve so many problems.
  20. raulpica

    raulpica With your drill, thrust to the sky!

    Former Staff
    Oct 23, 2007
    PowerLevel: 9001
    ...like heating was the real problem of the RRoD! [​IMG] Heating is normal, and every electronic thing out there creates heat. The problem lies in the PCB materials and the BGA solder.

    Sometimes I really think that even MS doesn't know why the RRoD happens [​IMG]

    They should've just used DECENT materials and production processes, and nothing like that would ever have happened in the first place.