Homebrew [NDS] Yet Another nds-bootstrap Forwarder: more than 40 forwarders are now possible

lifehackerhansol · Oct 3, 2022

AmandaRose said:
Every time I boot the forwarder I created for Fire Emblem Heroes of Light and Shadow I get the bellow message. Any way to stop this message popping up? The message doesn't show if I boot the rom from twighlight menu so not sure what is happening.

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You are likely booting the game in DS mode on TWiLight.

You can do the same here, by pressing Y while booting the forwarder. I'd recommend getting a clean dump, though, preferably from a real cartridge because the only reason you see this is because of a pirated ROM.

AmandaRose · Oct 3, 2022

lifehackerhansol said:
You are likely booting the game in DS mode on TWiLight.

You can do the same here, by pressing Y while booting the forwarder. I'd recommend getting a clean dump, though, preferably from a real cartridge because the only reason you see this is because of a pirated ROM.

I will press y and see what happens lol.

The rom has been patched with English as its one of the few Fire Emblem games that only came out in Japan.

AmandaRose · Oct 3, 2022

Booted with Y and set to DS mode but still getting the message grrrr lol

Pk11 · Oct 3, 2022

AmandaRose said:
Every time I boot the forwarder I created for Fire Emblem Heroes of Light and Shadow I get the bellow message. Any way to stop this message popping up? The message doesn't show if I boot the rom from twighlight menu so not sure what is happening.

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Use this translation patch: https://github.com/R-YaTian/DSiEnhanced_Translation_Revision/tree/main/FE12

Other patches break the DSi binaries, causing that error. You can also hold Y while loading and switch "Run in" to "DS Mode", you'll just lose any DSi enhancements.

Edit: whoops didn't see the next page, not sure why the DS mode setting wouldn't be working but try the patch I linked

AmandaRose · Oct 3, 2022

Pk11 said:
Use this translation patch: https://github.com/R-YaTian/DSiEnhanced_Translation_Revision/tree/main/FE12

Other patches break the DSi binaries, causing that error. You can also hold Y while loading and switch "Run in" to "DS Mode", you'll just lose any DSi enhancements.

Edit: whoops didn't see the next page, not sure why the DS mode setting wouldn't be working but try the patch I linked

Hey thanks will give it a go tomorrow as staying at my BFs tonight and my 3DS is at home.

AmandaRose · Oct 5, 2022

Pk11 said:
Use this translation patch: https://github.com/R-YaTian/DSiEnhanced_Translation_Revision/tree/main/FE12

Other patches break the DSi binaries, causing that error. You can also hold Y while loading and switch "Run in" to "DS Mode", you'll just lose any DSi enhancements.

Edit: whoops didn't see the next page, not sure why the DS mode setting wouldn't be working but try the patch I linked

Hey sorry for the delay in getting back to you been super busy at work yesterday and today. Thank you for the link one of the patches in the link was called Bad To Good.xdelta and that fixed the issue

SpaceLion · Oct 8, 2022

Is it possible to add support for fan translations? I've submitted a few English banners for Japanese games to the assets repo (formatted as XXXJ-EN if I remember right), just would be nice if users could check a box and then somehow specify the language of the fan translation they're using.

lifehackerhansol · Oct 9, 2022

SpaceLion said:
Is it possible to add support for fan translations? I've submitted a few English banners for Japanese games to the assets repo (formatted as XXXJ-EN if I remember right), just would be nice if users could check a box and then somehow specify the language of the fan translation they're using.

I haven't had time to think of how to add it.

There were a few suggestions on which direction it can go, but I've not completely made up my mind on what to do.

AmandaRose · Nov 16, 2022

Can't for the life of me get this to create a forwarder for SaGa 3: Jikuu no Hasha: Shadow or Light. Have tried several different roms of it including both the japanaese and English Patched versions and indeed a dump of my own Jap cartridge of the game with zero luck.

Only game I have been unable to create a forwarder for. Anyone any ideas how I can fix this please.

godreborn · Nov 16, 2022

AmandaRose said:
Can't for the life of me get this to create a forwarder for SaGa 3: Jikuu no Hasha: Shadow or Light. Have tried several different roms of it including both the japanaese and English Patched versions and indeed a dump of my own Jap cartridge of the game with zero luck.

Only game I have been unable to create a forwarder for. Anyone any ideas how I can fix this please.

did you leave in the : ?

AmandaRose · Nov 16, 2022

godreborn said:
did you leave in the : ?

Nope for every rom of the game I tried I renamed the rom to saga 3.

godreborn · Nov 16, 2022

AmandaRose said:
Nope for every rom of the game I tried I renamed the rom to saga 3.

the only other suggestion I can think of is to underscore that space. some things don't like spaces.

AmandaRose · Nov 16, 2022

godreborn said:
the only other suggestion I can think of is to underscore that space. some things don't like spaces.

OK will give it a try later just about to take doggo out a walk

Only I don't see that fixing it as saga 2 worked perfectly just not saga 3 :rofl2:

godreborn · Nov 16, 2022

AmandaRose said:
OK will give it a try later just about to take doggo out a walk

Only I don't see that fixing it as saga 2 worked perfectly just not saga 3

I haven't used this to build forwarders, just the one by @RocketRobz , I no longer make forwarders for my games, just too lazy to.

SylverReZ · Nov 16, 2022

Question: Do the forwarders load the (.NDS) ROM file straight off the SD card or do they have them embedded?

godreborn · Nov 16, 2022

M4x1mumReZ said:
Question: Do the forwarders load the (.NDS) ROM file straight off the SD card or do they have them embedded?

I don't know about this, but RocketRobz would load them off the micro sd card of the flash cart. I assume it can load them from the 3ds sd card as well. they're not embedded afaik. you used to only be able to do 40 games, because it filled up the twl nand. how this works, I'm not sure. maybe they found a workaround so you didn't use twl nand space. you'd be out of space otherwise as each forwarder was 2-3MBs.

AmandaRose · Nov 16, 2022

godreborn said:
the only other suggestion I can think of is to underscore that space. some things don't like spaces.

Nah that didn't fix it so I tried renaming the rom to just saga with no luck then I renamed it to game still nothing lol.

lifehackerhansol · Nov 19, 2022

M4x1mumReZ said:
Question: Do the forwarders load the (.NDS) ROM file straight off the SD card or do they have them embedded?

It's a forwarder. It forwards to the ROM on the SD.

It has to be this way for any method to load NDS cartridge games for the following reason:
- On a DSiWare forwarder, there's too little space on TWLNAND to embed a whole 128MB ROM (which is like, basically most popular games.)
- On YANBF, embedding would mean it is left in an encrypted state on the SD card due to how title installs work, and that can't be read by nds-bootstrap since the decryption key only exists in CTRNAND which is inaccessible, not to mention the performance tank that would happen.

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AmandaRose said:
Nah that didn't fix it so I tried renaming the rom to just saga with no luck then I renamed it to game still nothing lol.

Do you have a log? I can try to figure out what's up.

SylverReZ · Nov 19, 2022

lifehackerhansol said:
It's a forwarder. It forwards to the ROM on the SD.

It has to be this way for any method to load NDS cartridge games for the following reason:
- On a DSiWare forwarder, there's too little space on TWLNAND to embed a whole 128MB ROM (which is like, basically most popular games.)
- On YANBF, embedding would mean it is left in an encrypted state on the SD card due to how title installs work, and that can't be read by nds-bootstrap since the decryption key only exists in CTRNAND which is inaccessible, not to mention the performance tank that would happen.

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Do you have a log? I can try to figure out what's up.

Was already told about this, but thanks. I know the same is applied to Wii forwarders but was unsure about the DS ones.

godreborn · Nov 19, 2022

M4x1mumReZ said:
Was already told about this, but thanks. I know the same is applied to Wii forwarders but was unsure about the DS ones.

I don't know how this app works, but forwarders iirc were about 2-3MBs apiece, and they're installed to twl nand, which is where dsi games go. there's not much room though, only 100 something megabytes.

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