I didn't vote Biden. I voted for someone in green party as write in. (don't remember their name. As I've been keeping track of someone else)
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Couy Griffin is disqualified for holding office after actions relating to january 6th
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I'm honestly on the fence about that type of approach. It is better than what the majority of voters appear to do. I just don't see how you are going to fix your situation without revolution, and risk being branded as a "threat to democracy", which seems to have been an inevitability.
Thanks for the list, I've been able to locate five people charged while attempting multiple searching. I believe my point still stands with five versus hundreds of thousands.
But please provide evidence of any others you can find.
Well the majority of voters don't get a kind option. I live in state where I can practically throw away my vote. But if your say, in idk. One of the swing states. Your vote may be the difference between getting the worst outcome, or the second worst outcome.
Again, the electoral collage system fucking sucks. Because it's a winner take all system. if say, independent x, get's 55% of the vote. Then indepdent y, gets absolutely no representation in that state, in the federal election. Resulting in overall trimming the bases that should be there, and not representing them.
Well, I think I have already alluded to the idea that "modern democracy" has a relatively predictable outcome; a centralized agency. Unless there is something that you can implement that will change the trajectory of political reformation into becoming progressively decentralized, you will never end up with everyone being represented. But then again, as you suggest, it's not likely that one of the two main parties have incentive to present something that will
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Yes I've noticed that you don't advocate anything.
Its a central part of your strategy and its maddening.
Stand for something man...
Just not the opposite of the person you are speaking with.
There are clear rules for fair engagement and you break them all the time.
Don't play people and you wont get played.
So you think you have something to offer the people.
You are not fun to play with and imo a terrible educator of well anything I can find.
Do you have any training in education, logic or programming?
Have you have ever been in a debate class and or been part of any real debates?
Have you had any tech questions answered on gbatemp that were outside of your expertise?
I did all of the above and served five years.
I was sgt in the US Army
And I love world history...
So Yes... back on topic he is barred for good reason.
Meat for the trolls:
J6 magats are mostly traitors.
and Trump is hopefully next.
Time will tell.
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So, where is your apology for being completely wrong?
Why should I? Can't I just be here to entertain thinking? If you want to think I don't have ideas and opinions, simply based on the notion that I don't disclose them so directly or fervently, it's your choice.
I don't know what you are talking about. I entered this forum by my volition, aware to a degree, of how people operate here.
I know I offer something to people, whether they enjoy it or not. I don't believe in "waste". You haven't been having fun with me, and I don't see any reason why you should have expected it.
"Training" is an interesting term to use. Is your worldview strictly hierarchical?
I'm hosting a debate class right now.
What?
Ok.
What?
Even if what you say isn't LARP, credentials aren't a substitute for logical faculty. Passion isn't a substitute for capability.
Like me, you are probably bored right now, hoping that the world will change. I'm somewhat optimistic in general.
Have you been following the J6 hearings?
They didn't find many more guns because Trump ordered the MAGS down.
He said let them in because he wasn't worried they where going to shoot him.
Damming their careers some good republicans are helping bring it all together.
Yes I did say that.
What happened on J6 was an insurrection.
Not cool.
That would have only been at the rally he had. Trump had no authority over Capital Police or National Guard. There was also the ability for anyone to join the march from any point after the rally as that wasn't secured. He did attempt to have the National Guard mobilized the day before to help with providing security and order at the capital but his requests were turned down by Nancy Pelosi.
But go ahead taking everything from those hearings as absolute truth. If you believe that, then I see why you are frightened of Trump's superpowers being able to break through the partition of the presidential limo and grab the wheel as was claimed during those hearings.
I only offer honest apologies.
You responded to me with asinine commentary and I played you back.
You don't like it. Nobody does.
My world view is flat.
I am a Buddhist.
What I look for is postitve exchange... I haven't seen that when you reply to me.
The abortion commentary was over the top rude.
This is from a thread where I had a very positive exchange with a person outside and opposite of my experience.
Quote me and eat it up as much as you want.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/lets-talk-about-suppression.618463/page-8#post-9945533
"So there are Jewish people who have their own long standing laws.
And I am glad we agree on the narrow margin of this one point.
Now here is mine and I have expressed it several times to this harsh audience.
A long time ago me and my wife had an abortion.
Instead of killing two people, we both went on to create a lot more life.
I don't need to justify this to anyone.
The end has justified the means.
In all the billions of people on the planet and millions here in the US,
there is no way for me to judge what is right for all people in all circumstances.
When it comes to something this important.... that's just imho irrational."
GBAtemp is hosting something called a discussion board or even something more fancy.
When you start calling someone a terrible person and so on it.... then why are you here?
and Who doesn't want a better world.
I am not afraid.
Before making any hard choice I gather my information from as many sources as possible, leaving most commentary behind.
From what I have seen Trump is not a good person and far from qualified to be leader of the country.
I don't believe in any conspiracies.
But I have to admit the pedos in the Catholic Church were real and most didn't Believe that in the 80's.
That's all you can do, but sadly most of the media in the US is owned by a small number of groups. And much of it is just propaganda. Be open to news sources from other countries. And at least be aware of narratives being pushed on alternative media.
Every major scandal was a conspiracy at one point until the truth finally came to light for the general population.
Lots of coffee and hacking.
I mostly hate rules.
Mostly because I know that if I imagined the world working the way I wanted it too then it would not work at all.
I don't care if you like or follow this shit or not because what you say and do is on you.
Here are some basic guidelines:
1. Try and reach a shared understanding rather than ‘win the argument’.
2. Clarify with others to make sure I genuinely understand their perspective.
3. Endeavor to avoid committing logical fallacies in support of my claims.
4. Attempt to account for my own biases and try to be intellectually humble.
5. Try to be reasonable, rational, and create coherent arguments.
6. Refrain from personal attacks, sarcasm, and mean-spiritedness.
7. Use the ‘Principle of Charity’ to see the merits of others’ points of view in the best light.
8. Remain genuinely receptive to changing my mind if presented with compelling arguments or evidence
So falsely representing is just M.O.?
How does that coordinate as a response to what we were talking about? What did I say that can be considered equivalent to:
"Its a central part of your strategy and its maddening.
Stand for something man..."
Army guy becomes Buddhist. If it weren't such a contradiction to how you behave, I'd be pointing out how cliché that is. Also "I am a Buddhist" isn't a worldview or an organic response. It's what people say when they want to be seen as enlightened but have no idea what it means.
All exchange is positive. Your expectation of the outcome is what brings you disappointment, grasshopper.
If you want to re-address something I said about abortion, then do that.
I don't care.
How about you do that, and just hope that I entertain you with the respect that you show me.
And be open to reading history books from other countries!
History in Japan is optional to a professional degree.
Some perhaps many are not aware of the horrors committed.
Japanese war crimes are on the same level and The Germans.
The Nanjing Massacre and Japanese unit 731.
I was married to a Japanese woman and spent years in the country.
Sometime was used learning together Japans WW2 history. Just blew my wind.
Many stories to be told....
I never offered one because you have not.
Exactly the kind of ignorant and mean spirited response expected.
Don't know who Desmond Doss is.
Never heard of hacksaw ridge.
I don't like mean people and I am not perfect.
Also the response is perfectly again out of context.
I learned to see the world as flat and not hierarchical.
But I also live in a world that is not mine and must adjust to live in it.
I did. Payed college bills, found my wife got married and got out.
It worked out for me. People hired me for great jobs.
But you still cannot see beyond the horizons of your keyboard man.
No All exchange is Not positive.
I expect you to be civil.
If you are not then expect the same level of response.
Respect should go both ways.
If you can apologies for calling my families choice on abortion a community decision or even some more plainly vague and empty then I will consider offering an apology for riding your tail every time you're an ass hat to someone.
You are not the only word wrangler. Forums are not an old thing.
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I still don't get why you guys are so performative in your opposition to this person being barred. If the tables were turned, and a mob was rushing in to try to shoot Trump and any cult leader representatives you support you'd probably not want any feds in our country to hold office, even at state levels.
So you are saying that some people are evil and they shouldn't have money.
If you think are attempting to be anything other than patronizing, you are very self-unaware. It's a an attempt to gloat and I can't bring myself to have envy of you.
It's a bit comical.
Have you tried becoming one with the grass?
Apologize for what? What did I call your family's choice on an abortion? If this is bothering you, you're going to have to point to where in the forum I hurt you.
Why would I want an apology?
Think it through, Desmond. I'm not the one complaining that "you violated my 'Buddhist' tenets".
So you don't know how to read and just use terms you don't even understand like "objection".
Worker co-ops? You mean the same workers co-ops that resulted in the destruction of Cuban agriculture?
Cuba went from being the greatest exporter of fine cane sugar, the finest coffee and rhum you can drink and the best tobacco in the world. It no longer is even in the top 10 of those.
The same worker co-op that makes the government owner of your land and farm animals? God forbid you kill a cow in Cuba (cow that you raised yourself), you'll get double the sentence than killing a person.
You don't even know what you're talking about kid, you just read dumb shit online and use it to point out "muh socialism" only to end up showing yourself as the ignorant twat you are.
This is literally what the communists do, written down in their manifesto, and it's how Lenin, Mao, Castro and every other communist country came to power.
Can we apply your logic and kill all the people that violently took over the Cuban government resulting in the biggest dictatorship ever seen in the American continent?
