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ut2k4master said:
the silent majority made the game win (among others) best narrative, best playstation game and game of the year at the golden joystick awards. i already set my clock awaiting your next excuse why that site is somehow irrelevant, the vote was rigged, or similar

Sooo... Journalists? Yeah, most people aren't journalists, so that would make a minority of people yes. :^)

ut2k4master · Dec 9, 2020

Thelucario21 said:
Sooo... Journalists? Yeah, most people aren't journalists, so that would make a minority of people yes. :^)

it was 100% fan voted

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ut2k4master said:
it was 100% fan voted

No? No, that's not how the VGAs works. The VGAs outside of the "Players Choice" award is voted on by Journalists from big name networks. It's not weighed in on by the common people. TLoU2 lost the Players Choice award, but someone came up with some conspiracy theory that 4Chan rigged it (while the Dreck-mann was being a salty boy) so I guess it doesn't count (if TLoU2 looses).

ut2k4master · Dec 9, 2020

Thelucario21 said:
No? No, that's not how the VGAs works. The VGAs outside of the "Players Choice" award is voted on by Journalists from big name networks. It's not weighed in on by the common people. TLoU2 lost the Players Choice award, but someone came up with some conspiracy theory that 4Chan rigged it (while the Dreck-mann was being a salty boy) so I guess it doesn't count (if TLoU2 looses).

now tell me where i mentioned the game awards in the post you quoted. in any case, your phrasing makes it obvious youre just another tlou2 hating troll anyway

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ut2k4master said:
now tell me where i mentioned the game awards in the post you quoted. in any case, your phrasing makes it obvious youre just another tlou2 hating troll anyway

You yourself, repeatedly until you were called out on it. If you're not talking about the VGAs then what ARE you talking about? If it's not a widely known vote it's not really a representative "majority" to point to.

ut2k4master · Dec 9, 2020

Thelucario21 said:
You yourself, repeatedly until you were called out on it. If you're not talking about the VGAs then what ARE you talking about? If it's not a widely known vote it's not really a representative "majority" to point to.

hmmmm, what event could i have talked about? if only i wouldve mentioned it in the post you quoted. hmmmmmmmm

Julie_Pilgrim · Dec 9, 2020

Thelucario21 said:
You yourself, repeatedly until you were called out on it. If you're not talking about the VGAs then what ARE you talking about? If it's not a widely known vote it's not really a representative "majority" to point to.

ut2k4master said:
the golden joystick awards.

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ut2k4master said:
hmmmm, what event could i have talked about? if only i wouldve mentioned it in the post you quoted. hmmmmmmmm

Ah right, the Golden Joystick Awards, the UK's thing. Progressive fish n chips UK, the award that's gone under the radar internationally for it's nearly 40 year lifespan. Real representative vote there. :-)

ut2k4master · Dec 9, 2020

Thelucario21 said:
Ah right, the Golden Joystick Awards, the UK's thing. Progressive fish n chips UK, the award that's gone under the radar internationally for it's nearly 40 year lifespan. Real representative vote there. :-)

ut2k4master said:
i already set my clock awaiting your next excuse why that site is somehow irrelevant, the vote was rigged, or similar

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I didn't say that was rigged, just like you didn't name the VGAs. And boom goes the hypocrisy.

ut2k4master · Dec 9, 2020

Thelucario21 said:
I didn't say that, just like you didn't name the VGAs. And boom goes the hypocrisy.

you didnt say what i quoted you on?

Deleted User · Dec 9, 2020

ut2k4master said:
you didnt say what i quoted you on?

Yeah, I'm wasting my time with it at this point. You've preemptively written off all valid counter arguments from the get go. Let me just sneak one little thing in.

As far as anyone these days are concerned, all votes are rigged unless tested otherwise, because all credibility has been destroyed over the years. Here, they don't even have a transparent display of vote counts, which means no data to examine, for all anyone knows it won by a single vote, or the vote was tossed out entirely (it's happened before).

ut2k4master · Dec 9, 2020

Thelucario21 said:
Yeah, I'm wasting my time with it at this point. You've preemptively written off all valid counter arguments from the get go. Let me just sneak one little thing in.

As far as anyone these days are concerned, all votes are rigged unless tested otherwise, because all credibility has been destroyed over the years. Here, they don't even have a transparent display of vote counts, which means no data to examine, for all anyone knows it won by a single vote, or the vote was tossed out entirely (it's happened before).

oof, its already tinfoil hat time again? youre complaining about a supposed lack of valid arguments and you bring up this nonsense? boy oh boy

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ut2k4master said:
oof, its already tinfoil hat time again? youre complaining about a supposed lack of valid arguments and you bring up this nonsense? boy oh boy

It's a hell of a lot more critical examination than you've done so far.

ut2k4master · Dec 9, 2020

Thelucario21 said:
It's a hell of a lot more critical examination than you've done so far.

what "critical examination" did you do there exactly? you said its "fake" because, well because you claim it is. theres no examination going on there, and certainly not "critical". its a tactic right from trumps playbook. make ridiculous accusations and repeat them often enough so stupid people will believe them.
youve provided nothing of substance. you just made the claim that all votes are rigged, implying its done in a widespread fashion that changes the outcome in a different direction. since you claim that "tossing of votes" has "happened in the past" and that "all credibility has been destroyed over the years", please provide some evidence with more than just one source to all your claims

crea · Dec 10, 2020

I just came here to say that the majority of metacritic's 9 and 10 votes came from newly created accounts or accounts with only one game vote and empty, generic wording, whereas the mediocre and negative votes were overwhelmingly from real people with plenty of votes. I investigated this a lot after release, because I wanted to see how far today's "big studio releases" go with fake promotions. Answer: as far as they can. It was/is totally obvious they payed millions to shills and more millions to "online journalists".

I find that deplorable really and I don't buy those games out of principle, not even for 25 bucks on black friday.

pustal · Dec 10, 2020

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crea said:
I just came here to say that the majority of metacritic's 9 and 10 votes came from newly created accounts or accounts with only one game vote and empty, generic wording, whereas the mediocre and negative votes were overwhelmingly from real people with plenty of votes. I investigated this a lot after release, because I wanted to see how far today's "big studio releases" go with fake promotions. Answer: as far as they can. It was/is totally obvious they payed millions to shills and more millions to "online journalists".

I find that deplorable really and I don't buy those games out of principle, not even for 25 bucks on black friday.

Nobody was paid as far as there is evidence of. If you went to TLOU original subreddit there used to be a stickied thread that read:

Don't forget to give your honest opinion on the metacritic page.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-part-ii

Within mere hours of the release of a 30h game (that means it takes multiple days for normal humans to complete), The Last of Us Part II already had more reviews than God of War has 2 years after release. Furthermore, as the days passed and more people finished it, the score rose from 3.3 to the current 5.3. Regardless of your opinion on the game, one fact is undeniable: the current metacritic rating is a product of review bombing, and does not reflect people's actual opinions on the game.

I am not asking you to go rate it 10/10. I'm not even asking you to go give it a good rating. If you think it's a 4/10 game, by all means, please leave a sincere review and rate it 4/10.

Bonus: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6298000

All I ask is that you help the metacritic rating reflect what people actually think about the game. So go give it your honest opinion, positive or negative!

So naturally, many fans went and created an account to review it.

crea · Dec 10, 2020

pustal said:
Nobody was paid as far as there is evidence of. If you went to TLOU original subreddit there used to be a stickied thread that read:

Of course, that must be the reason for thousands of generic sounding 10/10 votes, all registered on the day of vote, coming in weeks after the release when noone that bought the game gave a shit anymore. TLOU2 was the biggest internet campaign to date I'd say. Using the word "evidence" does not mean anything lol, the only hard evidence of that would be a whistleblower. It's a matter of common sense, just read some of those votes.

pustal · Dec 10, 2020

crea said:
Of course, that must be the reason for thousands of generic sounding 10/10 votes, all registered on the day of vote, coming in weeks after the release when noone that bought the game gave a shit anymore.

The vote started on November 13 according to this.

On the day the voting opened there are a grand total of 20 reviews that you can check here, mixed reviews, some good, some bad.

From the beggining of November 13 to the end of November 24, I counted a grand total of 242 reviews. pretty mixed as well.

242 is still very shy of a single thousand, last I checked.

crea said:
"evidence" does not mean anything

Evidence does not mean anything to you indeed, my good sir.

crea · Dec 10, 2020

I was talking about metacritic votes with comments. You seem to talk about something else.

pustal said:
Evidence does not mean anything to you indeed, my good sir.

You are deliberately misrepresenting what I wrote to sound superior, but in reality it only makes you sound stupid.

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