Hacking Discussion Where is SX OS and 7.0-1 Support?

When will SX OS 7.0.0 support come?

  • June 15th

    Votes: 92 18.4%
  • Never

    Votes: 57 11.4%
  • Nintendo Will Drop 8.0.0. First

    Votes: 142 28.5%
  • Right after Atmosphere

    Votes: 124 24.8%
  • With Bacon and Cheese

    Votes: 84 16.8%

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Atmosphere is fully compliant with the GPLv2, and thus is free and open source.

It may not meet the requirements for GPLv3...but eh, I don't like GPLv3 for a number of reasons, and don't license it under GPLv3.

Sept's fully open source, you can build it -- your build just won't work on hardware without keys. Keys aren't source code + would be illegal to share, and this is all GPLv2 kosher. ;)

I m a sx OS user and i really think that you did a great job obfuscating the code.

If they are not able to release the source at least they have to credit you if they want to use your exploit.
 

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Will be a small pain in the butt, but guess us sx users will just have to switch over soon™
 

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come on !!!
SciresM is the number one of the scene !

Team Xecuter are a bad copy* . ( *in this case )
anyway... I'm going to get popcorn and I'll be back soon . :grog:

#AtmosphereNXRULEZ
 

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What I want to know is what is SciresM doing on an SX OS thread that is nearly 30 pages deep. I thought he was focusing his time on developing Atmosphere...unless...SciresM is really Ping Long!
 
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Just because 5% of Sept is closed source (method of getting keys and the keys themselves) isn't exactly breaking "a chain of trust" 99% of Atmosphere is still open source.

Even then it was made only to stop TX from getting their slimy hands on the code and claiming it for themselves. I'd argue it's a smart move from ScriesM and the people from ReSwitched.

That wasn't the point at all. US courts have decided that jailbreaking consoles is not allowed (jailbreaking phones is allowed).

Because it was fail0verflow that broke the ps3 chain of trust they got bought into the geohotz court case, when he produced CFW. They didn't work together, but having atmosphere and the patches posted on here Nintendo could argue they were working together. If TX just use sept, then it advertises on every boot that it's atmosphere that is being sold to violate the DMCA.

While criminal cases need to be proved beyond reasonable doubt, civil cases (which this would be) only need to be proved more likely than not & it would be decided by people who don't have a technical background.

Keys aren't source code + would be illegal to share

Keys can't be copyrighted as they are just random numbers and have no artistic merit, so they are legal to share unless sharing them would violate the DMCA. If sharing the keys violates the DMCA then sharing sept binaries also violates the DMCA. This is all pretty settled law.

The TI calculator signing keys for example are perfectly legal to share as making alternate OS for your calculator doesn't violate the DMCA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_signing_key_controversy

The AACS keys on the other hand violate the DMCA and aren't legal to share https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy

In neither case can anyone claim copyright over the keys, if you could copyright keys then they wouldn't need the DMCA in the first place.

So if you keep saying the keys are illegal, then it would only be because of the DMCA and therefore you really ought to stop distributing atmosphere as the DMCA would cover circumventing TSEC at runtime to recover keys just as much as you pasting them into the code. Unless you don't care that is illegal, in which case why do you make a big deal about the keys?
 
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That wasn't the point at all. US courts have decided that jailbreaking consoles is not allowed (jailbreaking phones is allowed).

Because it was fail0verflow that broke the ps3 chain of trust they got bought into the geohotz court case, when he produced CFW. They didn't work together, but having atmosphere and the patches posted on here Nintendo could argue they were working together. If TX just use sept, then it advertises on every boot that it's atmosphere that is being sold to violate the DMCA.

While criminal cases need to be proved beyond reasonable doubt, civil cases (which this would be) only need to be proved more likely than not & it would be decided by people who don't have a technical background.



Keys can't be copyrighted as they are just random numbers and have no artistic merit, so they are legal to share unless sharing them would violate the DMCA. If sharing the keys violates the DMCA then sharing sept binaries also violates the DMCA. This is all pretty settled law.

The TI calculator signing keys for example are perfectly legal to share as making alternate OS for your calculator doesn't violate the DMCA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_signing_key_controversy

The AACS keys on the other hand violate the DMCA and aren't legal to share https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy

In neither case can anyone claim copyright over the keys, if you could copyright keys then they wouldn't need the DMCA in the first place.

So if you keep saying the keys are illegal, you really ought to stop distributing atmosphere as the DMCA would cover circumventing TSEC at runtime to recover keys just as much as you pasting them into the code.
Infact here you are wrong.
Geohot posted the ROOT KEY, in plain view. These are Sony's copyrighted material.. It's silly you can claim that, but that's just the way it is. However hashes are perfectly fine to post, since they randomly generated.

How Atmosphere works according to the law, it's actually perfectly legal. It's how the Switch itself use the keys no? It's never extracted at all, all stays with in the Switch.
Also in a lot of countries developing third-party tools are perfectly legal and is in no shape or form against the DMCA.

According to the DMCA, you aren't allowed to edit the firmware to allow pirated content. Atmosphere does no such thing.
Also all the sigpatches aren't altering the firmware either, they're just temporary patches.
 

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Pegaswitch, probably. By SciresM and ReSwitched. May have heard that first name in connection with a certain cfw

Pegaswitch enable homebrew but from who's initial findings and exploit?

Reswitched again same.

Sx is from day one has supported homebrew, it has ftp, nsp installer, cheat engine, stealth mode, lan play. All built within its os.

The others if they have it are additional tools released by others, but sx was first to release the initial exploit.

People here bitch because they're too stupid and keep updating.

Yes updates are slow but when you see everything that is included with sx os, its not as simple as slap firmware support, it has to support its other features.

If atmos had issues they dont care, they dont have to work on the other features, that's left to who ever created them to update their tools.
 
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