Hacking Question Idiot didn't read, how screwed am I

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Nope. The guide I was following made no mention of backing up NAND before booting the CFW, only after the have a back up in case of bricking.

All I did was boot the CFW twice and have the toolkit and tinfoil on the SD card before using the toolkit to backup. Is it really that easy to trip?
You might be okay.
 

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There would be a huge discrepancy in the logs, which could easily be flagged. It's probably not hard to tell the difference between someone who hasn't played in a while and someone who restored their nand to a previous state.

The fact is, even if it's done in RCM, they probably have a way to know.
If you have a clean nand backup and properly back up and restore it there would be no discrepency to find.
 

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If you installed anything homebrew related and you dont have a nand backup to restore, you'll get the next day

This isn't fully true . I've been running sxos from day 1. Iplay xci games but update them via OFW. I was still going find until 6.2 .Once they release that I'll update all ges online again
 

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you will be fine you did you have any black screen with error? if not your nand is pretty clean, tbf i recommend you use sx os, atleast it has emunand so you can have the cfw side of your switch on your sd card and the other legit, in my personal opinion its a lot safer. but you will bew fine, just backup your nand now, and then cfw, when you wanna go back restore your nand and go online again.
 

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Alright, after a long long time of digging and asking around, I have the definitive answer for people looking to restore NAND without easy access to the exfat update and therefore locked out of using Hekate. You'll need to push memreader to your Switch in RCM mode (drop the contents of the included "sample" file to the root of your SD card) and use this to allow USB access to the NAND, Boot0, and Boot1. Use Hex Workshop to mount these (should be under "physical drives" and be ~30GB, 4MB, and 4MB respectively) and then Drives>Restore and select your rawnand for the nand, boot0 for boot0, and boot1 for boot1. You'll have to restart your Switch and push the payload each time you do one of these. NAND took an hour and a half to write, and I had to do it twice because I accidentally let the Switch boot normally when I went in to do boot1 (even if you have autoRCM, use your rig anyways). Now I'm back in and unread "News" I had read while in the hack had turned unread again so I know it worked. Now to see if I get banned. It'll be hard to check when everything normally used to check is begging for me to update. Hopefully my plight helped someone else who royally screwed themselves. I'll just wait things out until Nintendo finally secures the system indefinitely (unlikely) or unnoticeable hacks are available. I'll report in the ban general if I do end up banned, but only after 6.2.0 is confirmed safe to upgrade will I probably get a chance to check (update nags everywhere). Thank you to everyone who helped. Someone tell Rei to make her installation guide mention Hekate backups before installing the CFW.
 

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I know it's too late, but for anyone looking at this post:

Set up my SD card for ReiNX because the guide didn't tell me that a Hekate backup was cleaner.
You probably followed a ReiNX guide, not a hacking guide, right? ReiNX guide only cover ReiNX installation, not proper prior steps you should do to hack your switch BEFORE using reinx (such as proper clean hekate NAND dump).
The guide also told (I didn't verify recently) users to make a dump, THEN update the console officially (would be bad with available 6.2 fw).... which burns the fuses and make the dump just made few minutes ago useless right away. (either update, then dump, or update without burning fuse, or else a backup is useless)
I already mentioned these issues on the reinx guide, but I don't know if my voice was loud enough to prevent users issues (apparently not, if it's the guide you followed). when I write a guide I think about users, while other guide writers might think about guide complexity and whether it's their interest or responsibility to cover more information than needed. I find it's too bad that it's only covering the cfw usage, and not a proper way to secure a user's console, explain about fuses, etc.

Only now am I told to ensure my SD card is 32GB.
I don't know about the reiNX toolbox, but hekate doesn't require the SD card to be at least 32GB. if you have a FAT32 SD card, a smaller than 32GB SD card, or not enough free space on your exFAT card for a single file dump, then hekate dumps in "multi part" mode, 15 chunks of 2TB each. once full, it asks you to backup all the chunks on your computer and put the SD card back to continue the dumping process from where it stopped. when you have all the NAND dumped in 15 chunks, you can merge them all into a single 32GB binary file on your computer.


I didn't thought about using memloader to restore raw partitions, that's also a way to do it (both dump/restore). But if you are using RCM payload to restore your file, why not use hekate payload? it's just in case you can't format the SD card to exFAT at all ? no computer to format to exfat? or just want to keep the card in fat32 maybe.
 
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I ran hekate with layeredfs to play backuos before any other real cfw options came out and St the sane time I would boot into ofw and go online for eShop games, updates and play legit games I owned like rocket league online. I even downloaded updates from the shop for my pirated games. Up until 6.x cane out I was still able to go online with absolutely 0 issues and was never banned as far as last time I tried going online. As long as you keep your shit separate I think people are over reacting about chances of getting banned or they are playing pirated games while online, or were when they could.
 

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The guide also told (I didn't verify recently) users to make a dump, THEN update the console officially (would be bad with available 6.2 fw).... which burns the fuses and make the dump just made few minutes ago useless right away. (either update, then dump, or update without burning fuse, or else a backup is useless)
But if you are using RCM payload to restore your file, why not use hekate payload? it's just in case you can't format the SD card to exFAT at all ? no computer to format to exfat? or just want to keep the card in fat32 maybe.

Yeah, when it said update (if it said to update) I ignored it. While the home "news" area of Rei's site's guide said it was 6.1 compatible, the guide itself didn't, so I knew parts of it weren't made with 6.2 in mind. As for why I couldn't use Hekate, I didn't have the exfat update on my switch prior to hacking (so downloading it from Nintendo officially wasn't viable) and I was on 6.1, so I did entirely trust the safety of going back to 5.X or earlier to get the update. I needed more in-depth instructions on how to downgrade without tripping the whole fuse count thing before I trusted myself to do it. Meanwhile, memloader and HacDiskMount had enough of a tutorial for me to get used to mounting my NAND directly when someone recommended Hex Workshop if you're doing a whole NAND restore over the partitions.
 
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Too bad the guide you followed never mentioned hekate. It has its own exFAT driver and can mount the SD card even if you don't have the exFAT support on your current firmware.
hekate is launched before the firmware, so it doesn't rely on the current firmware's drivers.
At least, you managed to find another solution :)
 

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You're good, there are people playing pirated games online since day one and still not banned, and you just loaded CFW.

So true!

There's nothing like an instaban, or ban after a day.

I'm using cfw with installed nsps since day one. I even online-updated all games trough horizon.

I am still not banned.
I don't care if it happens anytime in the future.
But as long as i'm not, i will keep on enjoying online updates and eShop.

...okay, even without a ban, i currently can't access online features, since i'm stuck on 6.1.
But I'm sure the cfws will get updated soon...
 
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Things willl get you banned

+ playing nsp, xci( without cert) games with Internet requirement while being online
+ uncommon error codes (atm creport will take over those errors but sx error codes won't) - be offline and delete error history just in case.

You won't get banned easily because just boot to cfw or leave common tickets. Even update pirate games via eshop won't get banned.

Based on 100+ hacked switches in my local group which haven't got banned yet.
 

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Too bad the guide you followed never mentioned hekate. It has its own exFAT driver and can mount the SD card even if you don't have the exFAT support on your current firmware.
hekate is launched before the firmware, so it doesn't rely on the current firmware's drivers.
At least, you managed to find another solution :)

WHY DID NO ONE SAY THIS SOONER, WHY IS THAT NOT LISTED IN THE FEATURES FOR HEKATE? God, I feel like even more of an idiot now....
 

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WHY DID NO ONE SAY THIS SOONER, WHY IS THAT NOT LISTED IN THE FEATURES FOR HEKATE? God, I feel like even more of an idiot now....
Please don’t take this the wrong way but that is why many hate guides. If they were to include everything they would be books and no one would read them. A guide is not a substitute for reading many sources and having a fairly firm grasp of what you are about to do before you do it. Guides make decisions for you and sometimes these decisions are not best for your situation.

Going forward I suggest you utilize the noob paradise thread. They’re are many very experienced and helpful members that answer questions there and you can always run your plans by them to so if they have any suggestions.
 

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I've done just about everything imaginable and am still not banned to this day. There's really no rhyme or reason as to who/how they target.
 

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Please don’t take this the wrong way but that is why many hate guides. If they were to include everything they would be books and no one would read them. A guide is not a substitute for reading many sources and having a fairly firm grasp of what you are about to do before you do it. Guides make decisions for you and sometimes these decisions are not best for your situation.

Going forward I suggest you utilize the noob paradise thread. They’re are many very experienced and helpful members that answer questions there and you can always run your plans by them to so if they have any suggestions.

Well at this point I've gone through the crash course myself. Next time I go into hacking my Switch I'll have a lot more experience with everything (though by that point everything will likely have completely changed to counter Nintendo's counter measures so I'll probably have to read up again anyways)
 

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