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So, I have a 2DS XL as you know, and it uses the beefier 804 MHz CPU, and thus Snes VC, for the games it supports, they run very smooth, and a fairly accurate. With that said, I've run into a few snags with injections, notably with a few games like Final Fantasy VI, Super Mario RPG*, and so on.
Now, I know there's the Ultimate SNES Forwarder Maker for 3DS that uses a few emulators as a base, CatSFC, CatSFC Plus, and Snes9x Next (why it's included is beyond me, even with the faster CPU, it doesn't run optimally on the hardware).
https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-ultimate-snes-forwarder-maker-for-3ds.460895/
In fact, any game forwarded and injected into Snes9x Next will crash the 3DS when you close the app. So what I'm looking for is some alternatives to using Snes emulators on the New 2DS XL hardware. Now that I have Luma 3DS working perfectly, I'm curious as to what my options are.
I don't expect perfect emulation, that's unfeasible, but I do want to be able to comfortably use Snes ROMs, you know?
Problematic game(s) with official VC injection:
Final Fantasy VI:
The world map/towns run 60 fps, but whenever the battle transition happens, the mosaic tile effect, the emulator will slow down, yes, Nintendo's official emu drops frames. It will drop frames when huge spell animations are displayed on screen as well.
Secret of Mana:
Game uses pseudo hi-res Mode 7 512 x 448 resolution for variable width font, 3D cannon/dragon flying maps, etc. Nintendo's official VC emulator doesn't support this, so most menus and text will be corrupted.
Then we have the homebrew emulators:
RetroArch, and the subsequent emulators for it:
Snes9x 2002 - based off of 1.39
Snes9x 2005 - based off of 1.43
Snes9x 2005 Plus - based off of 1.43 with the 1.52 audio core
Snes9x 2010 (Snes9x Next) - based off of 1.52
Snes9x for 3DS, based off of 1.39, but again, the old audio core just sounds weird and
has a weirder semitone. Unless I missed a version?
What I'm trying to do is load the one with the best sound and performance, and it turns out
Snes9x 2005 plus (I assume it was CatSFC Plus), as it has accurate audio emulation. I'm very nitpicky about audio accuracy, if a game sounds off, it drives me crazy, because accurate sound has spoiled me. But even that core struggled with non-chip games like Castlevania IV and Chrono Trigger, always hitting 55/60 fps. What am I doing wrong? Is there no way to enjoy normal games at full speed with good SPC700 emulation? Will RetroArch ever get full speed Snes9x?
I'm curious to see what my options are, mostly, to get the best of both worlds, good performance and good audio emulation.
Please, and thank you
Now, I know there's the Ultimate SNES Forwarder Maker for 3DS that uses a few emulators as a base, CatSFC, CatSFC Plus, and Snes9x Next (why it's included is beyond me, even with the faster CPU, it doesn't run optimally on the hardware).
https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-ultimate-snes-forwarder-maker-for-3ds.460895/
In fact, any game forwarded and injected into Snes9x Next will crash the 3DS when you close the app. So what I'm looking for is some alternatives to using Snes emulators on the New 2DS XL hardware. Now that I have Luma 3DS working perfectly, I'm curious as to what my options are.
I don't expect perfect emulation, that's unfeasible, but I do want to be able to comfortably use Snes ROMs, you know?
Problematic game(s) with official VC injection:
Final Fantasy VI:
The world map/towns run 60 fps, but whenever the battle transition happens, the mosaic tile effect, the emulator will slow down, yes, Nintendo's official emu drops frames. It will drop frames when huge spell animations are displayed on screen as well.
Secret of Mana:
Game uses pseudo hi-res Mode 7 512 x 448 resolution for variable width font, 3D cannon/dragon flying maps, etc. Nintendo's official VC emulator doesn't support this, so most menus and text will be corrupted.
Then we have the homebrew emulators:
RetroArch, and the subsequent emulators for it:
Snes9x 2002 - based off of 1.39
Snes9x 2005 - based off of 1.43
Snes9x 2005 Plus - based off of 1.43 with the 1.52 audio core
Snes9x 2010 (Snes9x Next) - based off of 1.52
Snes9x for 3DS, based off of 1.39, but again, the old audio core just sounds weird and
has a weirder semitone. Unless I missed a version?
What I'm trying to do is load the one with the best sound and performance, and it turns out
Snes9x 2005 plus (I assume it was CatSFC Plus), as it has accurate audio emulation. I'm very nitpicky about audio accuracy, if a game sounds off, it drives me crazy, because accurate sound has spoiled me. But even that core struggled with non-chip games like Castlevania IV and Chrono Trigger, always hitting 55/60 fps. What am I doing wrong? Is there no way to enjoy normal games at full speed with good SPC700 emulation? Will RetroArch ever get full speed Snes9x?
I'm curious to see what my options are, mostly, to get the best of both worlds, good performance and good audio emulation.
Please, and thank you
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