I have a old 3ds on SysNAND 9.2 and currently use the Gateway Flash card. I've read that Luna CFW has its ups and downs compared to a flash card as such. I was wondering if I were to follow the tutorial on 3ds.guide could I still use my emuNAND? I want to use both as I have the roms on my micro sd card for the gateway and don't have room to use .cia files as I have a 16GB SD card and I have over 50+ games. I have searched around so before you tell me that I have found a tutorial for 11.4 emuNAND and luna but it's not very clear for me. I just don't want to ruin my 3DS. I want to use the online features is why I'd like the luna. If anyone could help that'd be WONDERFUL!!
Hacking [QUESTION] Gateway EmuNAND and luna
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Yes, you can use a Gateway emuNAND with Luma3DS. However, Gateway is incompatible with emuNAND versions 11.3 and 11.4. It is highly recommended that you ditch Gateway entirely and switch to Luma3DS. Luma3DS can do everything Gateway can do, plus more. Support for the Gateway also appears to have ended, meaning Gateway might never be compatible with emuNAND versions greater than 11.2.
If your SD card size is a problem, just use the Gateway one as your 3DS SD card, since you wouldn't be using the Gateway anymore.
If your SD card size is a problem, just use the Gateway one as your 3DS SD card, since you wouldn't be using the Gateway anymore.
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This, not to mention cia installed games take up less space than their 3ds equivalents, meaning you would have even more space.
So use the micro sd card inside of a micro to a full sd card? The adapters is what I'm saying. Could I use two of them if necessary? And converting my .sav files how would I go about that? Also would all my games fit on the 64gb card?? I'm sorry I just want to double check with everything before making the big jump I'm a little nervous
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To convert your Gateway saves files see https://gbatemp.net/threads/importing-gateway-saves-to-cia-games.425743/
Thank you both very much! I might try to make the switch today I'm really nervous as I said above, just have a lot of progress with the gateway card and have known nothing but that card so new will be good
Having dual boot is the best option.
You have the advantages of GW (.3ds files, cheat engine) and the advantages of Luma (.cia, GBA support, etc...)
You have the advantages of GW (.3ds files, cheat engine) and the advantages of Luma (.cia, GBA support, etc...)
Aside from not having to go through the process of transitioning to Luma3DS, there's no advantage to using Gateway.
That's wrong.
Gateway still has the best cheat system, and you can play .3ds games with the red card (which means you'll be able to play more games than on Luma alone)
There are cheat alternatives using Luma3DS, and there's no advantage to using .3ds files.
I don't understand why people are so against dual boot Luma/GW.
And there's an obvious advantage when you can use BOTH .3ds and .cia files. You can have more games stored.
So how would I go about dual booting to have the option to boot into gateway mode if ever necessary?
First: install Luma through the guide (don't do the "delete emunand" step)
Second: follow this guide: http://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-using-luma3ds-gateway-on-b9s.431691/
Using both Luma3DS and Gateway is an unnecessary and convoluted setup that's likely to cause issues while offering no benefit.
- Nothing about Gateway gives one the ability to store more games. Nothing is stopping you from installing CIA files to both SD cards and swapping them.
- The use of .3ds files actually takes up more space than installing CIA files.
- Luma3DS can functionally do everything Gateway can do, plus much more.
- Gateway is still incompatible with 11.3-11.5.
- Gateway requires an emuNAND setup, which unnecessarily takes up even more space.
- If one accidentally uses Gateway with the sysNAND, it could result in the removal of B9S. If one uses an up-to-date B9S sysNAND setup, then that would lock one out of Gateway and Luma3DS.
- The Gateway team is unlikely to release anymore updates, but Luma3DS is still active.
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Damn I'd hate to have B9S Removed or be locked out that's what I'm so nervous and scared about. So as long as I back up my SD Card and then remove menhHax (as I use that to boot into gateway mode) then follow the guide I should be PERFECTLY fine? Then follow the guide to convert my saves then convert my .3ds games to .cia install them and I'll have everything normal again as I had my gateway card in use? Definitely leaning more towards of doing this today now
There's so many things wrong with that, let me start.
>Nothing about Gateway gives one the ability to store more games. Nothing is stopping you from installing CIA files to both SD cards and swapping them.
Which is stupid. Having the red card for GW and an SD for Luma is way better.
>The use of .3ds files actually takes up more space than installing CIA files.
Only when fully installed. While installing, you need double the game space on the SD to install.
>Luma3DS can functionally do everything Gateway can do, plus much more.
Better cheat engine than anybody.
>Gateway is still incompatible with 11.3-11.5.
That's what the dual boot is for, you can have an updated SysNAND and a functional GW EmuNAND.
>Gateway requires an emuNAND setup, which unnecessarily takes up even more space.
Only 1GB, but OK.
>If one accidentally uses Gateway with the sysNAND, it could result in the removal of B9S. If one uses an up-to-date B9S sysNAND setup, then that would lock one out of Gateway and Luma3DS.
A correct Dual Boot has an updated B9S setup AND allows the user to use GW as well.
>The Gateway team is unlikely to release anymore updates, but Luma3DS is still active.
I heard they're gonna release the source code of the GW once they release their new card.
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As long as you don't use Gateway with your sysNAND after installing B9S, then there's no risk. There's no reason to be worried.
You should backup your Gateway save files before you do anything else. Then you can install B9S and Luma3DS like normal.
Could you explain how it's better?
Yes, we're talking about how much space games take up. .3ds games generally take up more space.
I like the Gateway cheat engine, but it's functionally the same as other cheat engines. Have you used other cheat options? What you're saying sounds like something people used to say back when Gateway had the only viable cheat engine, but that's not the case anymore. Also, if OP doesn't care about the cheat engine, then this is irrelevant anyway.
Yes, because Luma3DS is compatible with all 3DS software versions. It's seems pretty convoluted to setup a system in which you install the games you want to run on 11.5 to the 3DS SD card for use with Luma3DS, and you install the games you are okay with running on 11.2 onto the Gateway SD card.
Ignoring that the last 1GB on an SD card can be a big deal to a lot of people, using an emuNAND reduces the lifespan of the SD card. SD cards aren't as resiliant as NAND chips when it comes to reads/writes.
That's the part that's risky. If you accidentally boot into Gateway mode using the B9S sysNAND instead of the emuNAND, then you've just removed B9S on an 11.5 sysNAND. That means you'll be left with no entrypoint with which to boot Gateway or Luma3DS. You'll have to find one of the 11.5 methods of installing B9S (ntrboot, DSiWare method, or a hardmod) as if from scratch.
Don't hold your breath. Soon™
I followed the guide and got a correct Dual Boot, and when I want to go to GW EmuNAND, I hold the down button.
It works perfectly. I have the best of both worlds.
I'm glad it's working well for you, but for the reasons I listed above, it's not a setup I can recommend.
I have been using the dual boot setup since the a9lh days, still am now. Never had an issue at all. Dont really understand why theres so any people that are against it.
Is it maybe because they dont have a GW card so cant do it themselves??
Flashcards are always more convenient and in the 3ds's case it WAS the only way to play backups for a long time, now theres a free non flashcart way to do things but that dont mean we should just throw the cards in the bin. THEY STILL ARE USEFULL!!
Is it maybe because they dont have a GW card so cant do it themselves??
Flashcards are always more convenient and in the 3ds's case it WAS the only way to play backups for a long time, now theres a free non flashcart way to do things but that dont mean we should just throw the cards in the bin. THEY STILL ARE USEFULL!!
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