Brazilian PS4 Hack Confirmed Real

lytro · May 13, 2015

WiiCube_2013 said:
PS4 is yet to have a stable quality library of games and this is what they're focusing on? Pirating PS4 games?

It just feels strange that they wouldn't do something better with it like allowing to play emulators, make the Blu-ray inside region free, perhaps allow in some way to play PS1 and PS2 games and so on.

So if someone hacked the Wii U I'd hope they would do something creative rather than just the games.

you read the OP(source) yes?

Margen67 · May 13, 2015

Article said:
They are, of course, keeping the technique a secret, in order for it to not get patched, but also so that they can run a profitable business reselling pirated games.

You don't say :rolleyes:

inb4 PS4 scene devs say "We aren't paid by whoever we're just coincidentally not releasing anything related to piracy due to Legal Reasons (tm)/morals/ethics/excuses/etc."

beenii · May 13, 2015

So, just for laughs, because i dont get any of this stuff, but wouldnt it be theoretically possible to "clone" a Dev-unit, which even plays unsigned code to have the perfekt console instantly?

But the one big question is, how difficult is this process? sure there would have to be soldering required.....

Walker D · May 14, 2015

I could just go to one of this stores that do this hacks... ...ask them to teach me, and then, share here with everyone ...

But, meh .-. I much more prefer to stay at home and eat some pizza

Also: ...the only guy that I knew was doing something to break the PS4 was x-s4nd3r (obviously there's more people on it though...). Don't know if he started it.....

Pedeadstrian · May 14, 2015

Such a shame. By the time games that I actually want to play are out, they'd require a higher firmware, and by then this (or any derivative) would be patched. We can't do much without a way to break the PS4's encryption.

tech3475 · May 14, 2015

Surprised, id have thought there was something in the system to prevent this eg. Per console key, etc.

Shame its just a piracy hack.

Amadren · May 14, 2015

Can't wait for a how to do it

Also anyone knows what version is required?

MisterJohnson87 · May 14, 2015

There is so much hype in this thread for nothing at all here.

This is nothing more than game sharing. This is non-news.

Pedeadstrian · May 14, 2015

MisterJohnson87 said:
There is so much hype in this thread for nothing at all here.

This is nothing more than game sharing. This is non-news.

From the source:

It needs to be emphasized that this is not the well known “account sharing” trick, but a new kind of hack.

It involves copying the NAND and/or BIOS from one console and applying it to another. What advantage that has over simple game sharing, I don't know.

Arras · May 14, 2015

Pedeadstrian said:
From the source:

It involves copying the NAND and/or BIOS from one console and applying it to another. What advantage that has over simple game sharing, I don't know.

The advantage is that there's no limit to the amount of consoles you can do this to, I assume. The disadvantage is that A. it's a pain to pull off B. I'd assume you run into issues if you want to play content other than the shared pirated games.

Pedeadstrian · May 14, 2015

Arras said:
The advantage is that there's no limit to the amount of consoles you can do this to, I assume. The disadvantage is that A. it's a pain to pull off B. I'd assume you run into issues if you want to play content other than the shared pirated games.

Doesn't Sony already have something in place that limits the amount of consoles you can have tied to your account? Or is the limit only on the number of active consoles? If the latter's the case, I'm sure Sony will change that ASAP.

Arras · May 14, 2015

Pedeadstrian said:
Doesn't Sony already have something in place that limits the amount of consoles you can have tied to your account? Or is the limit only on the number of active consoles? If the latter's the case, I'm sure Sony will change that ASAP.

Yeah, but like this from what I understand of it you kind of activate the second console, connect online to get games, deactivate your account (and disconnect internet), then somehow copy the activation data from the first console to the second. To Sony it looks like you only have 1 active console now, you actually have 2. You probably can't go online with the second one anymore without issues though.

mixelpixx · May 14, 2015

So I am confused. I see some posting that it is the NAND / Flash that is being copied/cloned and others saying its just an EEProm that has basically a table of active/legit purchases thats being copied. Or is it both? Is this EEP being read and written to a separate component?

Steena · May 14, 2015

duffmmann said:
Wait who makes money from allowing the pirating of games? I suppose you might find a few people in our scene more inclined to buy the system if it's been hacked, so in this case, Sony might get a few more customers buying the PS4, but I don't think that really nets Sony a lot of money at the end of the day.

You are american so it was generally different there, but in places like italy, spain, brazil, videogames stores used to have PS1 modding services and even sell you pirated discs, let alone private users advertising themselves on either forums or notice boards. It was a decent business. My cousin profited off it for the entirety of the PS1 life just selling backups and installing modchips as his only source of income.

Immigrants that nowadays sell trinkets, lighters and socks, used to sell backups of PS1 games instead, fake cover and all that, in bulk.

In my classroom, out of 21 people, 20 had a gaming system and 19 of us owned a modded PS1 as their only system. It was only me and the remaining dude that owned other systems as well. It was a mainstream thing, at least in italy, probably because games here used to cost a lot back then.

I can only imagine it's a similar situation currently in brazil, I hear the prices are even worse than they were here 20 years ago.

MegaV2 · May 14, 2015

Small electronics store in some streets of Sao Paulo will charge from R$ 300 to R$ 400 (about $100 to $150) in order to install 10 pirated games on your console. The UOL journalists have confirmed the hack to work on their own console.

Oh wow, that's pretty much the entire PS4 library for just ~$120

fudgi · May 14, 2015

just out of curiosity... why a RasPi? What does a RasPi have, what other "computers" dont?

cracker · May 14, 2015

A bunch of IO lines and standardized hardware.

Kippykip · May 15, 2015

Steena said:
In my classroom, out of 21 people, 20 had a gaming system and 19 of us owned a modded PS1 as their only system. It was only me and the remaining dude that owned other systems as well. It was a mainstream thing, at least in italy, probably because games here used to cost a lot back then.

I can only imagine it's a similar situation currently in brazil, I hear the prices are even worse than they were here 20 years ago.

Well in my area at the time, I was the only one with a modded ps1 with a crapton of these copied games with cheap labels my dad used to get overseas.
While everyone else had like 3 games (which would've been PAL/50hz ugh)

FAST6191 · May 15, 2015

Was PAL in the PS1 era that bad? You certainly do not have to sell me on the 8 ad 16 bit era being less than stellar for most pal folks but the PS1 stuff was not quite as egregious.

Bi99uy · May 15, 2015

FAST6191 said:
Was PAL in the PS1 era that bad? You certainly do not have to sell me on the 8 ad 16 bit era being less than stellar for most pal folks but the PS1 stuff was not quite as egregious.

Yeah, it was pretty shitty. Almost every game had the horrible black borders, and "slow" games like Resident Evil were almost unplayable.
Hell, even up to the PS2 days the PAL region was shitty. I remember having to use AR codes in order to play FFX in regular speed and that messed up the cutscenes. I resorted to importing a NTSC console and had a friend send me games by mail overseas.

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