Dafuq man!
When did I say that?!
I'm not questioning Nintendo or it's reasons to give preference to gameplay.
I'm talking about people's speech after that Nintendo decision.
CryEngine 3 Trailer Shows What Next Gen Consoles Could Be Like
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Dafuq man!
When did I say that?!
I'm not questioning Nintendo or it's reasons to give preference to gameplay.
I'm talking about people's speech after that Nintendo decision.
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Compare this video to the PS3/360 gen, and then compare the PS3/360 gen with the prior gen. Then compare that gen with the prior gen before that. That "leap" shrinks quite a bit with each next gen. In 10 years I doubt we'll see the kind of leap from now to then as we have seen from 10 years ago to now.
I agree with you that those leaps shrink over the time,
but if we stop making new console generations from time to time these leaps will become huge,
and people will start complaining.
See how many people are already expecting/waiting for the next gen, even some gbatemp members.
If we compare the games in the beginning of the current gen life-cycle,
to the games of today we will see a huge leap.
This video shows what we expect for the beginning of next-gen life-cycle,
but by the end of next-gen life-cycle I bet we will see a huge leap compared to games of nowadays
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DAT TOAD.
But on a more serious note, these graphics really are quite nice. I'm beginning to think that we should probably be focusing more on the technology that will ultimately be used to display the graphics, as I think we're closely reaching the limit of what our current architecture will be able to handle in terms of graphics. That and not all games can (due to development costs) nor should (due to artistic preference) have more realistic graphics, but almost all games can benefit from having a better or newer way to display them.
But on a more serious note, these graphics really are quite nice. I'm beginning to think that we should probably be focusing more on the technology that will ultimately be used to display the graphics, as I think we're closely reaching the limit of what our current architecture will be able to handle in terms of graphics. That and not all games can (due to development costs) nor should (due to artistic preference) have more realistic graphics, but almost all games can benefit from having a better or newer way to display them.
Wayyy too realistic. I'd rather have games looking unrealistic to be honest, it's the purpose of gaming to me.
When that one LucasArts developer predicted we would have graphics indistinguishable from reality in ten years, I pretty much laughed it off.
After this? Well, the idea isn't so far fetched after all.
After this? Well, the idea isn't so far fetched after all.
Haven't we heard all this before?
"Madden Next-Gen" anyone? The various Killzone PS3 trailers, for instance?
Or the impossibly over the top trailers that just about EVERYONE were using to propose and hype the launch of this current generation of consoles?
Not to mention, this is Crytek we're talking about here... an id Tech wanna-be.They just want to be yet another company for people to drool over and release a half-baked tech demo of an engine wrapped around some half-hearted attempt at a game, and expect everyone else to fix it.
"Madden Next-Gen" anyone? The various Killzone PS3 trailers, for instance?
Or the impossibly over the top trailers that just about EVERYONE were using to propose and hype the launch of this current generation of consoles?
Not to mention, this is Crytek we're talking about here... an id Tech wanna-be.They just want to be yet another company for people to drool over and release a half-baked tech demo of an engine wrapped around some half-hearted attempt at a game, and expect everyone else to fix it.
A comment said that would be a good name to a band. I somewhat agree. Lol.
Graphics look good and all but a normal person won't notice the finer details that they showed in the video.
Would still love to see this in the future games.
This was rendered on a high end PC.
Does this give us an image of what next gen consoles could output?... pft think again!
Next gen won't offer more than what a low to medium end PC currently can do. People keep expecting the impossible and even when we reach this point in tech there won't be many games that will output these kind of visuals.
The amount of work that goes in to making even current gen stuff is massive and that's for graphics alone, if the future looked like this we would be talking about Hollywood sized productions.
Developers are already playing safe by releasing sequels to known games, if graphics were like this a singe commercially failed game would end up being a major economical impact on a company.
Graphics have always made progress but the leaps always decreases. If next gen consoles want to have a chance on the market they must strike a balance between cost, profit and hardware.
Next gen visuals is a graphics whore wet dream and nothing more.
Does this give us an image of what next gen consoles could output?... pft think again!
Next gen won't offer more than what a low to medium end PC currently can do. People keep expecting the impossible and even when we reach this point in tech there won't be many games that will output these kind of visuals.
The amount of work that goes in to making even current gen stuff is massive and that's for graphics alone, if the future looked like this we would be talking about Hollywood sized productions.
Developers are already playing safe by releasing sequels to known games, if graphics were like this a singe commercially failed game would end up being a major economical impact on a company.
Graphics have always made progress but the leaps always decreases. If next gen consoles want to have a chance on the market they must strike a balance between cost, profit and hardware.
Next gen visuals is a graphics whore wet dream and nothing more.
...Spoken like a true PC fanboy lol!
(though I do agree with the rest of your post!)You'd better hope your comment is wrong to be honest, because the consoles are still where all the money is, and a major release will not be hugely different on your PC than it will on these so-called low-medium power next gen consoles.... why spend so much extra money on what in all honesty will be the number 3 selling platform for your game?
Remember that consoles are set-top: if you built a PC with damn near the exact same specs as say the 360 the resulting games on it won't look half as good as the 360 version......
Personally speaking I'm thinking Durango & Orbis will offer visuals comparable to this demo.... maybe not 'quite' so good, but not far off!
As for the game in question - Crytek have already said they've got DX11 libraries running on the 360 & PS3 versions of this game, but of course to then couple the consoles with this video is pretty hilarious!!
as far as I know, they actually find a way to render DX 10/11 effect to be shown as much as good as it is with DX9 capability (they did it with Crysis warhead for consoles) which brings rages to enthusiast who spent thousand bucks just to make Crysis run almost flawless with max setup, and later find out their gear was to much overpowered to run warhead even with the max setup, okay this isn't my story, but I know someone who's definitely upset about it, and pretty much just stop caring about upgrades anymore and happy enough with his console purchased. He even said with consoles you don't have worried upgrading for at least 5 years and still happy with it, even if it less... it still lot cheaper.
Developer will try to do their best (most likely anything) to optimize their engine to run more smooth, better, faster, for consoles, with current technology on consoles they even releasing patch for some games.
but for PC, it's the user, you will have try anything starting optimizing your os, software, even worse upgrade your hardware eventough it isn't necessary, to run the games better, in the end... you'll still not satisfied because you know, it's not about the machine, it's about bad ports or bad coding.
Graphic does matter, no one think otherwise... but not every game with the most awesome graphics selling well, I dunno what's got in people mind nowadays but the purpose playing a game is to having fun, for example even people still enjoying playing tetris (and it's been remade in every way on every consoles/gadget/platform available in this world) and yet... you don't have to spend $5k worth computer to play it, that's not fun...for me at least.
if Tetris is a bit old-school for an example how about top world games best selling 2012? it's Diablo III, does it have the best Graphic out there? Yes, No? you decide, but at least it will run on any decent computer and ofcourse internet connection.
Developer will try to do their best (most likely anything) to optimize their engine to run more smooth, better, faster, for consoles, with current technology on consoles they even releasing patch for some games.
but for PC, it's the user, you will have try anything starting optimizing your os, software, even worse upgrade your hardware eventough it isn't necessary, to run the games better, in the end... you'll still not satisfied because you know, it's not about the machine, it's about bad ports or bad coding.
Graphic does matter, no one think otherwise... but not every game with the most awesome graphics selling well, I dunno what's got in people mind nowadays but the purpose playing a game is to having fun, for example even people still enjoying playing tetris (and it's been remade in every way on every consoles/gadget/platform available in this world) and yet... you don't have to spend $5k worth computer to play it, that's not fun...for me at least.
if Tetris is a bit old-school for an example how about top world games best selling 2012? it's Diablo III, does it have the best Graphic out there? Yes, No? you decide, but at least it will run on any decent computer and ofcourse internet connection.
if these kind of graphics become the norm I'll simply become solely a retro gamer. When it gets this real, I'd rather be outside looking at a toad than spend 60 dollars for it's in home equivalence.
Crysis 1 was made specifically to target the kind of people that masturbate to watching $5000 worth of hardware perform as well as a $200 wal-mart hp PC... and NOBODY ELSE!
The only reason Warhead ever sold, is because Crytek was forced by their publisher to gasp spend more than 30 minutes actually polishing their code to not run so ass-tastic on 90% of the hardware available to anyone without access to a corporate expense account.
The fact that there is still this sense of elitism in PC games does little to help the image of PC gaming as a whole... especially when the majority of affordable options are SO far behind in terms of being able to actually run games. Even the current intel HD 4000's on their latest Ivy Bridge-based CPU's can't even run many of the existing games out there now. The integrated graphics in the AMD Fusion chips for the past couple of generations still obliterates it in compatibility, and neither of them can even hold up to the power that a $100 graphics card is capable of. And even now, most ( read: nearly all but boutique OEM ) systems are built with such a closed mindset, that you literally can't upgrade one defective or deficient part without having to upgrade half the rest of the system; And that's just sad.
Both AMD and nVidia for YEARS have tried repeatedly to make a GPU expansion format, like the standards of PCI-E (and AGP and PCI before it)... yet you'll never, ever, ever see a notebook anywhere implementing any of these because the manufacturers refuse to use any of them, or simply take the boards and solder them on instead of using them as socketed expansion formats like they were originally intended to be.
And then you have these douche bags in Wall Street who think Angry Birds is Next-Gen, and think that intel magically replaced the need for a video card at last... yea, I'd like to see them play something as intense as Serious Sam 3, or heck, any of the Source games on intel video without worse-than-playstation-quality graphics.
It's probably just scalable.
Unreal Engine 3 can still look pretty impressive. But Mortal Kombat Vita doesn't look that impressive, and Infinity Blade is nice but it's not Gears of War nice.
So this is no real shocker for Xbox 360/PS3/Wii U, it'll probably reach its full potential though on next gen consoles though and PC.
Unreal Engine 3 can still look pretty impressive. But Mortal Kombat Vita doesn't look that impressive, and Infinity Blade is nice but it's not Gears of War nice.
So this is no real shocker for Xbox 360/PS3/Wii U, it'll probably reach its full potential though on next gen consoles though and PC.
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