I think the biggest part that bugged me was the fact that Bruce got back from some middle eastern prison to Gotham like it was nothing.
[SPOILERS] The Dark Knight Rises Discussion
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Okay, so what was the deal with the scar on Talia's back that they took the time to highlight on her while she was in bed with Bruce? In the comics, she has a scar on her arm from when Bruce cuts the two other ninjas during his training to throw off Ra's, and she was one of the two that got cut. And that scene is in Batman Begins. I even went back and checked. He cuts two other ninja's on their arm. But that doesn't match where the scar on her is in Rises.
Second, the plot of the movie is "any one can be Batman". They reiterate multiple times that Bruce isn't Batman. Batman is Batman. Anyone can be Batman. I liked the idea of John Blake being the next Batman the movie kept hinting at. Then they reveal his name is Robin. Yet when he visits the bat cave, the way he moves and reacts to the discovery is very similar to the scene of Bruce discovering it in Batman Begins. Is he Robin or the next Batman? This bugs me.
And lastly, wtf to the Bat. It's mode of remaining in the air, is 2 large spinning blades underneath the vehicle. This seems quite easy to simply shoot down. Like with the giant freaking tanks they were shooting at him with at the end.
But all in all, I loved the movie. Especially Crane as the "judge" who passes sentences to those who were in power before.
Okay, so what was the deal with the scar on Talia's back that they took the time to highlight on her while she was in bed with Bruce? In the comics, she has a scar on her arm from when Bruce cuts the two other ninjas during his training to throw off Ra's, and she was one of the two that got cut. And that scene is in Batman Begins. I even went back and checked. He cuts two other ninja's on their arm. But that doesn't match where the scar on her is in Rises.
Second, the plot of the movie is "any one can be Batman". They reiterate multiple times that Bruce isn't Batman. Batman is Batman. Anyone can be Batman. I liked the idea of John Blake being the next Batman the movie kept hinting at. Then they reveal his name is Robin. Yet when he visits the bat cave, the way he moves and reacts to the discovery is very similar to the scene of Bruce discovering it in Batman Begins. Is he Robin or the next Batman? This bugs me.
And lastly, wtf to the Bat. It's mode of remaining in the air, is 2 large spinning blades underneath the vehicle. This seems quite easy to simply shoot down. Like with the giant freaking tanks they were shooting at him with at the end.
But all in all, I loved the movie. Especially Crane as the "judge" who passes sentences to those who were in power before.
It was pretty good I guess, about on par with TDK. Though I'm never really impressed by comic movies as I feel they always fall short compared to the comics they're based on.
In this case there were a few things that I thought were just kinda dumb. The bat was pretty lame. Like jumpman17 mentioned, it didn't look like it would've been all that hard to shoot down. It seems like it was just there to look cool for the audience. Another thing is I thought the ending came about too fast. Bane just gets shot and then five minutes after it's revealed that Miranda is Talia, she's already dead, and then five minutes later the movie's over. And the whole part with Alfred was clearly coming from the moment he talked about the scenario. Also the whole finding out his first name is Robin part at the end just seemed silly. I think it would've been better to find out his name was Richard/Dick, but I guess they were just trying to make the reference more obvious; although with Anne Hathaway's character they didn't actually call her Catwoman they just named her Selina Kyle and gave her some cat-ear shaped goggles.
All that aside, with the exception of Hathaway, I thought all the actors did a pretty bitchin' job. Best since Jack Nicholson in Burton's Batman IMO.
In this case there were a few things that I thought were just kinda dumb. The bat was pretty lame. Like jumpman17 mentioned, it didn't look like it would've been all that hard to shoot down. It seems like it was just there to look cool for the audience. Another thing is I thought the ending came about too fast. Bane just gets shot and then five minutes after it's revealed that Miranda is Talia, she's already dead, and then five minutes later the movie's over. And the whole part with Alfred was clearly coming from the moment he talked about the scenario. Also the whole finding out his first name is Robin part at the end just seemed silly. I think it would've been better to find out his name was Richard/Dick, but I guess they were just trying to make the reference more obvious; although with Anne Hathaway's character they didn't actually call her Catwoman they just named her Selina Kyle and gave her some cat-ear shaped goggles.
All that aside, with the exception of Hathaway, I thought all the actors did a pretty bitchin' job. Best since Jack Nicholson in Burton's Batman IMO.
You are not alone, I thought she was pretty awful. TBH I would rather it have been Halle Berry; at least she would've been hot.
I loved Hathaway as Catwoman. As soon as she put the suit on she had the character locked down. I instantly thought of Catwoman from Arkham City. Sure she had the nice attitude, but she became a huge bitch when she was in the suit.
Just saw it today, went from tearing up near the ending to a full blown smile a few minutes later. Such an epic movie and great way to end the trilogy.
Literally have nothing bad i could say about the film
Also glad i can FINALLY surf the internet without worries
Literally have nothing bad i could say about the film
Also glad i can FINALLY surf the internet without worries
idk, it had less to do with the way she portrayed the character and more with Hathaway herself. Catwoman is supposed to be sexy and seductive, and Hathaway just...isn't. Not to say she isn't good looking, but just not in the same way catwoman is supposed to be. Now Michelle Pfeiffer; she was a damn good catwoman.
From what I remember, Bruce fixed the program error that was plaguing all the Bats (the one he was using, any others that existed, and any others used afterwards).
Anyways, I really, really loved this movie. Everything, for the most part, just came together. I liked the plot, the characters (Anne Hathaway made a great Catwoman, but Tom Hardy's Bane just knocked it out of the park. I was surprised by just how much I ended up liking the character. I would even put him up there with Ledger's Joker.), the whole shebang. There were a few little nitpicks here and there, but they're minor and don't drag the film down.
I'm sad we won't be seeing any more Nolan Batman movies, but this is a fine note to end on.
Pfeiffer was terrible. Granted she took Catwoman herself, and it fit in the Burton movies, but it was just too dark and she portrayed Catwoman as faaar too evil.
Well agree to disagree I suppose
, but I think the best description I've heard to describe Hathaway in this movie is she's a "neutered catwoman."
I'm a bit confused on the whole "Robin" thing from the movie. I think I was caught up in the fact that Batman "died", I wasn't paying 100% attention, and next I see is Blake grabbing luggage from this lady and she says "Robin? I like that name, you should keep it." or somehting like that. I missed maybe the ten seconds before that.
And what bugs me is that I could DEFINITELY see Blake playing a Batman Beyond sort of thing (I know this was Nolan's last film in the series, but I feel like it could almost be spun off by someone else). But the fact that he's Robin... gah.
And what bugs me is that I could DEFINITELY see Blake playing a Batman Beyond sort of thing (I know this was Nolan's last film in the series, but I feel like it could almost be spun off by someone else). But the fact that he's Robin... gah.
Robin was his actual first name (which would make his actual name Robin John Blake), but he didn't use it because it's kind of embarrassing for a guy. His legal documents would still have it, though, and that's where the social worker read it from.
It's a fun little gag with the Batman mythology and not much more beyond that; the ending made it pretty clear that he's taking on the mantle of Batman.
See how much not paying attention for five seconds can make you miss? Thanks for clearing that up
See how much not paying attention for five seconds can make you miss? Thanks for clearing that up
Ya, she said "You should use your real name". Kind of weird though that he wasn't a Greyson.
I didn't like the way they NEVER mentioned The Joker throughout the whole movie.
The movie skipped ahead 8 years. Why would they mention him?
I didn't like the way they NEVER mentioned The Joker throughout the whole movie.
The movie skipped ahead 8 years. Why would they mention him?
Well I do agree to an extent since you never know what happens to him, you just assume he's put in Arkham or something. Even if it's just a newspaper some guy's holding up or something.
But it's not a huge gripe.
I think that Anne Hathway's character in the movie isn't bad per se, but is bad if its supposed to be catwoman. You never doubt for a second that shes ultimately good and will end up with Bruce. Where in the comics, while she is ultimately good she has a much more conflicted personality and relationship with batman. That's why I think Michelle Pffiers version in Batman Returns was much better.
As for the whole Robin thing,the name is obviously meant to be just a quick joke, and he is meant to take over, much like the original Robin/Nightwing does in the comics for a while. If his name was grayson it would be obvious, but then again there have also been five Robins in the comics, so it doesn't really matter what his name is. (Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, and currently Damian Wayne).
As for the whole Robin thing,the name is obviously meant to be just a quick joke, and he is meant to take over, much like the original Robin/Nightwing does in the comics for a while. If his name was grayson it would be obvious, but then again there have also been five Robins in the comics, so it doesn't really matter what his name is. (Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, and currently Damian Wayne).
What's with the hate on Hathaway?
I admit that I was expecting her to be a poor Catwoman based on other roles she has been in, but as soon as she made that face and started talking after she was busted for stealing those pearls, I knew she would be just dandy.
And she was.
It definitely reminded me of Arkham City's Catwoman, like someone else has mentioned.
I admit that I was expecting her to be a poor Catwoman based on other roles she has been in, but as soon as she made that face and started talking after she was busted for stealing those pearls, I knew she would be just dandy.
And she was.
It definitely reminded me of Arkham City's Catwoman, like someone else has mentioned.
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