The BIG Football Thread

BlueStar · May 14, 2011

Not at all, just as long as you don't want to be consdidered a proper fan.

People have been brought up with their team as their duty, their birthright. It's either your local pride or it's passed onto you from your Dad's side. If your teams in the third division, tough shit. You turn up and pay money to stand in the rain to watch them get beat by a bunch of nobodies because they're your lads. And you may live your whole life and die without seeing them lift any silverwear of significance. But when you've done that for 30 years, and suddenly English 'soccer' has gone from wooden stands, pies and bovril to multi-million pound tranfers, billion pound TV deals and a worldwide franchise, and some Johnny come lately jumps on the latest fashionable bandwagon, trying to gloat about "Yay! We WON THE LEAGUE! My team won the league! We finally did it!" then of course you're going to laugh at them. And don't get me wrong, we have them in England as well, people from Essex who reckon they're Man U or Liverpool fans.

Maybe it's a cultural thing. You think telling your dad you're gay is hard, try telling your 5th generation Derby fan father that you want to support Man U or Chelsea.

rockstar99 · May 14, 2011

Fan:an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.

Does not say you need to born there to be a proper fan of whatever you are

Shinigami357 · May 14, 2011

And alienate those who actually love your sport? Yeah, pretty good deal there, huh? I don't see wtf it is you people are so uptight about. Yeah, you have your pride, you wear your colors proud, that's fine by us outsiders. But hey, I had the easy choice to just follow basketball (a Philippine obsession, btw) 'til my last cheer, but I saw football and I chose what I personally thought was the better sport. Most people make that kinda choice, too, and I think we have every right to cheer for who we want to, your objections and biases aside.

Why can't everyone just get along fine? Goodness' sakes.

david432111 · May 14, 2011

Shinigami357 said:
LOL, this BS is borderline racism. Not English yet support an English team? Glory Hunter. Not Spanish yet support a Spanish team? Glory Hunter. I suppose if a person ever had the misfortune to be born in Antarctica, he'd only have penguins, seals and polar bears to cheer on without getting judged, huh?

Fuck offa your high chair, moron, football's a worldwide sport, get used to the idea. Now please bugger off and let us enjoy our team's victory, ayt?

Gee, these uptight Europeans, why are they so anal-retentive? We ain't hurting 'em any, now, were we? We was just cheering our teams on, I don't see no harm in that, now, right lad? Certainly no law that restricts my choices of teams to cheer on, yea?

Yay for generalization and for laughably bringing racism in to this.

@bluestar
Not everyone lives in the UK, Spain or Italy. Do you think football in England would be anywhere near as big if it hadn't been for the worldwide fanbase?
The fact is that only the fewest people watch football without having a favorite team. It may start with them having a player you like, or you just liking the style of play, but often evolves in to something more. I know their are a lot of "fake fans", who know nothing about their team and just chose the team to be on the winning side; But how can you judge that without even knowing the person?

Shinigami357 · May 14, 2011

david432111 said:
Shinigami357 said:

LOL, this BS is borderline racism. Not English yet support an English team? Glory Hunter. Not Spanish yet support a Spanish team? Glory Hunter. I suppose if a person ever had the misfortune to be born in Antarctica, he'd only have penguins, seals and polar bears to cheer on without getting judged, huh?

Fuck offa your high chair, moron, football's a worldwide sport, get used to the idea. Now please bugger off and let us enjoy our team's victory, ayt?

Gee, these uptight Europeans, why are they so anal-retentive? We ain't hurting 'em any, now, were we? We was just cheering our teams on, I don't see no harm in that, now, right lad? Certainly no law that restricts my choices of teams to cheer on, yea?

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Yay for generalization and for laughably bringing racism in to this.

@bluestar
Not everyone lives in the UK, Spain or Italy. Do you think football in England would be anywhere near as big if it hadn't been for the worldwide fanbase?
The fact is that only the fewest people watch football without having a favorite team. It may start with them having a player you like, or you just liking the style of play, but often evolves in to something more. I know their are a lot of "fake fans", who know nothing about their team and just chose the team to be on the winning side; But how can you judge that without even knowing the person?

Well, I didn't wanna specify the English. Sorry, meant no harm. And, you gotta admit, telling people from other nationalities off for something that is a matter of personal choice IS borderline (I repeat, borderline) racist. That's just not really fair to us, we love the sport as much as you guys do.

david432111 · May 14, 2011

Shinigami357 said:
david432111 said:

Shinigami357 said:

LOL, this BS is borderline racism. Not English yet support an English team? Glory Hunter. Not Spanish yet support a Spanish team? Glory Hunter. I suppose if a person ever had the misfortune to be born in Antarctica, he'd only have penguins, seals and polar bears to cheer on without getting judged, huh?

Fuck offa your high chair, moron, football's a worldwide sport, get used to the idea. Now please bugger off and let us enjoy our team's victory, ayt?

Gee, these uptight Europeans, why are they so anal-retentive? We ain't hurting 'em any, now, were we? We was just cheering our teams on, I don't see no harm in that, now, right lad? Certainly no law that restricts my choices of teams to cheer on, yea?

Click to expand...

Yay for generalization and for laughably bringing racism in to this.

@bluestar
Not everyone lives in the UK, Spain or Italy. Do you think football in England would be anywhere near as big if it hadn't been for the worldwide fanbase?
The fact is that only the fewest people watch football without having a favorite team. It may start with them having a player you like, or you just liking the style of play, but often evolves in to something more. I know their are a lot of "fake fans", who know nothing about their team and just chose the team to be on the winning side; But how can you judge that without even knowing the person?

Click to expand...

Well, I didn't wanna specify the English. Sorry, meant no harm. And, you gotta admit, telling people from other nationalities off for something that is a matter of personal choice IS borderline (I repeat, borderline) racist. That's just not really fair to us, we love the sport as much as you guys do.

When Bluestar was ranting, he was addressing me just as much as you. I support Chelsea FC, yet I don't live in London, let alone the UK.

BlueStar · May 14, 2011

Rockstar said:
Fan:an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.

Does not say you need to born there to be a proper fan of whatever you are

No, you don't need to be born there. But like I say, being a fan of football in England and lots of parts of Europe is generally more than just liking a team of players. It's pride in your city, your family and friends. Often rivalries go beyond sport, they're political, geographical, they're rooted in events that happened before the sport even existed. Sometimes, sadly, they're even sectarian.

And I know the premier league gets a lot of money from teams being treated as a franchise - but a lot of people think it's that money that's ruined the sport.

Basically I find it hard to treat someone as a fan of a team like Man U or Chelsea (and those teams DO have many real fans who'd be there even if they were in the second division and hadn't enjoyed their recent success) when you know that if they didn't have so much money, trophies and players that they would be cheering on someone else.

That's the main crux for me, none of these recent converts to English football support Oldham, or Hull. or Sheffield Wednesday. But if Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal were in League One over the last 10 years and those three teams were in Champions League spots, they'd all be supporting them. So what kind of support is that?

Hearing fans like that talking about how much they love their team kind of sounds like Anna Nichole Smith talking about how much she loves J Howard Marshal.

rockstar99 · May 14, 2011

Yes I totally agree.I saw Messi play in the WOrld cup and loved his play style, followed him to his club Barcelona and over time that team became my favorite team.Same thing with United and Giggs.

I stay in Toronto and support Toronto FC too.But its pretty dumb watching a major league like Barclays without a favorite team.

Shinigami357 · May 14, 2011

Well, sadly, that's modern sport for ya. Soon the top teams will be better investments than stocks or those little pieces of papers banks give out. Hopefully, what's on the pitch stays as faithful as possible to the sport that started the whole thing. That's the only thing that really matters to supporters, anyway.

EDIT: Blame the media, not us. LOL, how are we supposed to find a team to support when they don't even air matches here? It's simply not possible.

Lubbo · May 14, 2011

cmon stoke!

BlueStar · May 14, 2011

Of course, it's understandable and not exactly surprising. But it's like the difference between unconditional love and just being with someone because they're hot and/or rich.

Can't say I like Man City, but I absolutely despise Stoke. Lived there for three years, it's an absolute shithole and their fans are some of the most unpleasant, violent, racist, knuckle dragging wankers I've ever met. So I'll hold my nose and support City today.

rockstar99 · May 14, 2011

Go Go Stoke!!

Satangel · May 14, 2011

I know exactly what you mean BlueStar, supporting your club through thin and thick. I'm a United fan since I first saw them play in 1999. Loved Beckham and it was actually the first time I saw his team play. You probably think I'm a gloryhunter, and I can not defend my support in any other way than saying I'll never stop supporting them. I know they are the most successful team of the last 20 years in the PL, but I can only say that I'll support them for the next 20 even if they start sucking and get relegated.

The one team I support even more than United is Club Brugge. They are a local team from the city I was born and I've supported them since I was 6. I live very close to their stadium, and I regularly go watch and go watch trainings. They are currently ranked 4th in the Belgian League and have some interesting players. 10 years ago they were always competing for places 1 or 2, but the last five years they never got there anymore. All they get is 3-6 now, hopefully next season they improve their game but what ever happens, I'll keep on supporting them.

Shinigami357 · May 14, 2011

Ehhh... City scored. Hmmm...

EDIT: Yep, City wins...

emigre · May 14, 2011

Deserved victory for Man City. They created more chances and looked more of a threat than Stoke, with the exception of Jones' chance. IT was good to see Balotelli do well, he's gifted but slightly mad.

Shinigami357 · May 14, 2011

Saying Balotelli is slightly mad is like saying Cristiano Ronaldo has a small ego-inflation problem, lolz.

rockstar99 · May 25, 2011

Its almost the big day!
Bumpy bump

Deleted member 473940 · May 25, 2011

Gunners all the way! Wait they didnt make it

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Barca probably aint gonna make it, although I wish they win this one lol.

rockstar99 · May 27, 2011

Just over 24 hours till it begins I cannot stop thinking about it.

I keep playing Barcelona VS Man Utd on PES 2011 for 1 hour now

Satangel · May 27, 2011

Tanveer said:
Gunners all the way! Wait they didnt make it

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Barca probably aint gonna make it, although I wish they win this one lol.
Barcelona is the favourite, and I fear they'll win. I don't have anything against Barca though, but I just like United more.

QUOTE(Rockstar @ May 27 2011, 04:27 PM) Just over 24 hours till it begins I cannot stop thinking about it.

I keep playing Barcelona VS Man Utd on PES 2011 for 1 hour now

Can't wait either, been looking forward to it the whole week. Only thing I did this week was study so yeah, pretty hyped for this game!

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