Hacking Best Way to Mod Any Wii: ModMii for Windows: Official Support Thread

sideskroll · Jan 11, 2011

XFlak said:
@sidescroll,
you may want to post your problem in the Wii Backup Manager thread. But perhaps try using FAT32 GUI Formatter to format your HDD instead of WBM. You can download that from ModMii's download page 2 by typing "F32". Next time, try copying just one game or app to the HDD and test it to make sure it works before copying over your whole collection.
Xflac, I alread tried posting this to WBMs thread. Figs response was this:
QUOTE@sideskroll
I'm not sure what you've got installed or version of CFG etc. so I'll just tell you what I'm using so you can try it.
I use Hermes cIOS v5, installed as 222 using the installer's default settings. Any version of CFG using 222 as default should work. eg. cfg63-222.dol. Just replace your boot.dol with that one, or you could try the online update in CFG to get it.

I would assume this would only work if I run the loader from SD right? Cause the Wii can't see any apps stored on the hdd.
The drive is fully functional on my PC. It is in fact formatted as fat32 with 32KB cluster size. So why should I reformat? I mean, if there's a legitimate motive for me to go through all that hassle again I will but what makes you think the issue has anything to do with formatting?
These are all the cios, mios and ios I have installed:

* IOS11v16174(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS20v16174(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS30v16174(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS50v14889(IOS50v4889[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS60v16174(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS70v16687(IOS70v6687[FS-ES-NP])
* cIOS202[57]-v5
* cIOS223[37-38]-v4
* cIOS222[38]-v5
* cIOS224[57]-v5
* cIOS250[57]-v20
* cIOS249[56]-v20
* RVL-cmios-v4_WiiGator_GCBL_v0.2
* Mii-Channel-NUS-v6
* Photo-Channel-1.1-NUS-v3
* Shopping-Channel-NUS-v20
* Opera-Internet-Channel-NUS
* Weather-Channel-NUS-v7
* NEWS-Channel-NUS-v7
* Wii-Speak-Channel-NUS
* IOS9-64-v1034
* IOS12-64-v526
* IOS13-64-v1032
* IOS14-64-v1032
* IOS15-64-v1032
* IOS17-64-v1032
* IOS21-64-v1039
* IOS22-64-v1294
* IOS28-64-v1807
* IOS31-64-v3608
* IOS33-64-v3608
* IOS34-64-v3608
* IOS35-64-v3608
* IOS36-64-v3608
* IOS37-64-v5663
* IOS38-64-v4124
* IOS41-64-v3607
* IOS43-64-v3607
* IOS45-64-v3607
* IOS46-64-v3607
* IOS48-64-v4124
* IOS53-64-v5663
* IOS55-64-v5663
* IOS56-64-v5662
* IOS57-64-v5919
* IOS58-64-v6176
* IOS61-64-v5662
* USBLoader(s)-ahbprot58-SD-USB-v3-IDCL
This is a forwarder channel that will load the first file it finds from the following list:
SD:/apps/usbloader/boot.dol
USB:/apps/usbloader/boot.dol
SD:/apps/usb-loader/boot.dol
USB:/apps/usb-loader/boot.dol
SD:/apps/usbloader_cfg/boot.dol
USB:/apps/usbloader_cfg/boot.dol
SD:/apps/WiiFlow/boot.dol
USB:/apps/WiiFlow/boot.dol
SD:/apps/usbloader_gx/boot.dol
USB:/apps/usbloader_gx/boot.dol
Note: IOS58 is required and it can launch files off an SD Card, a FAT32 Hard Drive
and/or an NTFS Hard Drive. It also supports meta.xml arguments and is able to
launch apps with direct hardware access.
You should always have at least one forwarder channel installed on your Wii,
that way, in the event of accidental update, you will be able to rehack your Wii without relying on a disc based exploit

Thanks again.

dogfood · Jan 11, 2011

Amazing, that was so easy.

Thanks guys

XFlak · Jan 12, 2011

@Arm73, u need all the files, after your downloads are finished, a download log is displayed, if files are missing, enter "R" to retry all your downloads. Any files that were already successfully downloaded will be skipped so it will go much faster the 2nd time around.

@sideskroll, the cIOS has nothing to do with the HBC being able to read from the HDD. It's possible that u have an incompatible hard drive, or maybe its semi-compatible, meaning games can be stored on it but not homebrew apps. If this is the case, then u should be able to launch the usb loader from the sd card and access games from the HDD. I've never actually encountered a situation like that before though, so its a long shot. The reason why I suggested using FAT32 GUI Formatter to reformat your hard drive is cuz some ppl have reported problems with WBM. However, I personally think WBM does a great job, but I'm giving u ideas based on what other ppl have reported.

@moffman, I don't know, ur problem is weird. If it can be launched from the USB via the HBC, it should be able to launch from the forwarder channel as well. Have u renamed any folders on the HDD? What's the name of the folder where your usb loader is saved?

sideskroll · Jan 12, 2011

XFlak said:
@sideskroll, the cIOS has nothing to do with the HBC being able to read from the HDD. It's possible that u have an incompatible hard drive, or maybe its semi-compatible, meaning games can be stored on it but not homebrew apps. If this is the case, then u should be able to launch the usb loader from the sd card and access games from the HDD. I've never actually encountered a situation like that before though, so its a long shot. The reason why I suggested using FAT32 GUI Formatter to reformat your hard drive is cuz some ppl have reported problems with WBM. However, I personally think WBM does a great job, but I'm giving u ideas based on what other ppl have reported.

According to the usb compatibility database it is 100% compatible.(Maxtor Basics Portable 250 GB external HDD, VendorID 0D49, Product ID 7450) And as I mention, till yesterday I had all my games working perfectly (the HDD was completely formatted as WBFS at the time) the issues began when I formated to FAT32 (and by "issues" I mean the HDD not even being recognized) I've already tried launching the loader from SD. It works (the loader) but it can't mount the device...
I didn't encounter any problems when formatting with WBM... And my PC tells me the drive is formatted as FAT32. So could it still be a problem with formatting? Looking around the forum I've encountered a lot of people with a similar problem. They had their drives working with WBFS but as soon as they formated to FAT32 found a lot of issues...
I honestly don't know what to do next... Should I just go ahead and reformat? Will it make any difference besides taking a LOOOT of time?
Any help appreciated.

*UPDATE* I Reformatted the drive using F32 GUI and now it works! I can launch apps from usb and/or play the games, no issues whatsoever. BUT, the forwarder (your forwarder) doesn't work anymore. Whenever I try to launch the loader through the forwarder it loads the wiimote thingy screen and then goes back to the menu... (apparently same problem as moffman) Any ideas?
Thanks for all your help and for the formatter... Who would've thought the formating tool would make a difference?

XFlak · Jan 12, 2011

your hard drive could just be slow to initialize, try launching the forwarder channel twice in a row, if it works the 2nd or 3rd time, that's the problem and there's nothing u can do about it

sideskroll · Jan 12, 2011

XFlak said:
your hard drive could just be slow to initialize, try launching the forwarder channel twice in a row, if it works the 2nd or 3rd time, that's the problem and there's nothing u can do about it

Nope. Doesn't work. Funny thing though... The loader works as long as I put the apps folder (with cfg inside) on to the SD card and the cfg loader folder to USB.
Could it be possible that theres some kind of "confusion" if I have an apps folder on the SD card (mymenuify) and at the same time an apps folder on the usb with the loader and media player? Should I just move everything to usb? Keep everything in SD? Is this even an issue?
Thanks again.
*UPDATE* As long as I have an SD card in the wii (with or without an apps folder) the apps in the FAT32 USB don't work (they didn't even appear in HBC) as soon as I take the SD out of the wii I can access the USB apps again.(except for the forwarder which still doesn't work from USB) Is this normal? Is there a way to avoid this (besides not having the SD in the wii cause theres where I keep all my VC titles...)
Thanks.

XFlak · Jan 12, 2011

from within the HBC, hit "1" to switch from SD and USB

try launching the forwarder channel without the SD card in the wii and see if that makes a difference

sideskroll · Jan 12, 2011

XFlak said:
from within the HBC, hit "1" to switch from SD and USB

try launching the forwarder channel without the SD card in the wii and see if that makes a difference

It doesn't. Already tried that. With or without an SD the forwarder can't launch the loader from USB.
I didn't know about pressing "1" to select source : S..... Is that what you mean?
The only other option I can think of is to keep the apps folder in the SD and the config folder of the loader on the USB to save space etc...But I would much rather have everything on the USB while keeping my SD in to use my wiiware and VC titles... I just KNOW I'll lose it as soon as I have to keep it off the Wii itself : )
Should I try a different CFG perhaps? compat or 222? Would that make a difference?

hazzarduk1 · Jan 12, 2011

oh wow,this is amazing, thank you Flak

Fishaman P · Jan 13, 2011

Is this ever getting updated? cIOS 249 rev21 is out, with IOS58 support. But apparently not Modmii support.

tizon · Jan 13, 2011

my screen moved like 1 inch to the left after the process, is this normal? only problem i'm having.
thanks,

Gagarin · Jan 13, 2011

Great tut. Love it. I just did it on my cousin's wii and looks fine.
The only problem is that it still doesn't read backups discs. What should i do? Install some backup launcher or some cios?

kylster · Jan 13, 2011

Gagarin said:
Great tut. Love it. I just did it on my cousin's wii and looks fine.
The only problem is that it still doesn't read backups discs. What should i do? Install some backup launcher or some cios?

That depends if you own one of the earlier consoles from like the first couple years. All newer consoles made after that cannot play backup discs due to a new dvd drive.

sideskroll · Jan 13, 2011

XFlak said:
from within the HBC, hit "1" to switch from SD and USB

try launching the forwarder channel without the SD card in the wii and see if that makes a difference

Update on my issue. Hopefully you'll have at least an idea to try... I tried with a different hdd and everything works fine. But on mine. I can load everything FROM HBC but not from the forwarder... What could be causing this? Wouldn't I be Unable to launch the loader even from the HBC if it were an incompatibility issue?
Also, and I don't know if this is related cause it seems to happen to a lot of people all over the net. I can't launch Mplayer cE from USB... It gives a black error page with the "correct" paths to install it to (which I'm using already)
Anyways, any help would be appreciated cause its driving me nuts.

XFlak · Jan 13, 2011

@sidescroll, the forwarder requires IOS58 is installed, if u used the ModMii Wizard to mod your Wii, you should have it installed... but I'm not sure what u did. Anyways, if u don't have IOS58 installed, install it and try again. But yea, if the forwarder worked with another hard drive, then that's not the problem. Anyways, I just created a new USB Loader forwarder channel based on FIX94's v8 forwarder, I'll be sharing that pretty soon so you can try that and see if it makes a difference. And re. mplayer_ce, check out my top channels thread, I have a forwarder channel that u can download from there that also includes a fix for that problem. But WiiMC is better anyways (IMHO) so I would just use that instead of Mplayer_ce

@tizon, are you talking about your PC or your Wii? If talking about your PC, are u referring to the ModMii window, or your entire screen? Anyways, it doesn't sound like a huge deal and no1 has reported anything like that before.

Fishaman P said:
Is this ever getting updated? cIOS 249 rev21 is out, with IOS58 support. But apparently not Modmii support.

Sorry, been busy with real life. My fiancee finally made it in the country and we just had our engagement dinner so things have been crazy... not to mention its the busy season at my work. Anyways, perfection takes time, and I want the next release of ModMii to be damn near perfect... anyways, I can almost guarantee that ModMii will be updated before the end of January alright?

Memino · Jan 13, 2011

Congratulations on the engagement Xflak

I'm going to wait until you update modmii because I know I'll mess up something if I try update to rev21 myself

, anyway take all the time you need to make this an awsome release. Have a good one.

XFlak · Jan 13, 2011

@Memino, thx for the congrats! The engagement dinner was actually pretty crazy! My fiancee and I found out during a surprise slideshow that we actually played with each other when I was 10 yrs old! Just a week ago we thought the first time we met was in 2009! Small world!

Back on topic, despite supporting rev21, you should know that ModMii's recommended cIOSs will not change in the next ModMii update (I don't recommend rev21 for most ppl yet as it seems compatiblity was reduced from rev20), so if you want to use the next version of ModMii to install rev21 cIOSs, you will need to grab the WADs from ModMii's download pages and install them like normal using a wad manager. In any case, rev21 really only brings triiforce support, which most ppl don't use in lieu of uneek/sneek anyways, so rev20 works just fine for most ppl.

Memino · Jan 13, 2011

Lol the world is full of all these wonderful coincidences, must have made a great day even more special.

Btw I haven't been following the wii scene for a while, what compatibility problems does rev21 introduce?

XFlak · Jan 13, 2011

rev21 has been working fine for me, but some say that rev21 will not recognize their hard drive when rev20 or a hermes cIOS works just fine using the same drive. There's a whole thread about rev21, if u want more info u should check it out.

Calling all testers, go into your wii settings, and check your Wii's mac address, if the first 2 numbers are NOT "00", send me a PM and I will get u to test a really cool wii app (which will remain nameless for now). Note, this app is not mine, I am only a beta tester for it but unfortunately I am unable to fully test it due to my mac address starting with 00. Even though this app was written by a great dev, you should still have proper brick protection in place before testing it.

XFlak · Jan 13, 2011

If anyone wants to download my new and improved USB-Loader forwarder channel before the next ModMii update, you download it from here:
http://d1ccb65e.linkbucks.com

The main improvement over the last forwarder (v3) is that it now launches a lot quicker when loading from an SD card. All of the forwarders features are listed in the spoiler below.

USBLoader(s)-ahbprot58-SD-USB-v8-IDCL.wad

Features:
-FAT32, NTFS, ext2, ext3 and ext4 partition support
-IOS58 required (for USB 2.0 speeds)
-Can load from SD and USB
-Can load dol and elf files
-meta.xml arguments supported
-Able to launch apps with direct hardware access

Forwards to:
SD+USB:\apps\usbloader\boot.dol
SD+USB:\apps\usbloader\boot.elf
SD+USB:\apps\usb-loader\boot.dol
SD+USB:\apps\usb-loader\boot.elf
SD+USB:\apps\usbloader_cfg\boot.dol
SD+USB:\apps\usbloader_cfg\boot.elf
SD+USB:\apps\WiiFlow\boot.dol
SD+USB:\apps\WiiFlow\boot.elf
SD+USB:\apps\usbloader_gx\boot.dol
SD+USB:\apps\usbloader_gx\boot.elf

Thanks to FIX94, Narolez and the WiiXplorer team for the forwarder code.
Also thanks to wilsoff and the USB Loader GX team for the amazing graphics.

CHECK OUT MY TOP CHANNELS HERE (tinyurl.com\topchannels)
~XFlak

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